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Post by olmucky on May 3, 2024 12:51:50 GMT -5
Gun shows aren’t exempt per se There may be a *private dude there from time to time but most of the sellers are respectable businesses and are required (and do) run checks at the POS. As for requiring all sellers at gun shows…the next step (and I think it’s out there for moving forward) will be if I sell a gun to cyclist I may have to report it (I believe I’d have to get access to the NCIS database etc) Bidens proposals use terms like “predominantly profit” and “repetitively sell” which puts pretty much all of us into our guns at risk for selling Heck, my neighbor is emptying his gun safe. He’s getting rid of A lot of weapons. Laws like they want would Label him and he’d be at risk for federal crimes if all the proposals go through.
*Edit I don’t know anyone who’s bought one there that did not get checked
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Post by misterjr on May 3, 2024 13:00:18 GMT -5
Gun shows aren’t exempt per se There may be a *private dude there from time to time but most of the sellers are respectable businesses and are required (and do) run checks at the POS. As for requiring all sellers at gun shows…the next step (and I think it’s out there for moving forward) will be if I sell a gun to cyclist I may have to report it (I believe I’d have to get access to the NCIS database etc) Bidens proposals use terms like “predominantly profit” and “repetitively sell” which puts pretty much all of us into our guns at risk for selling Heck, my neighbor is emptying his gun safe. He’s getting rid of A lot of weapons. Laws like they want would Label him and he’d be at risk for federal crimes if all the proposals go through. *Edit I don’t know anyone who’s bought one there that did not get checked No issues for your neighbor to sell his guns as long as it's not as it's not a gun show.
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Post by garycoleco on May 3, 2024 15:16:38 GMT -5
Gun shows aren’t exempt per se There may be a *private dude there from time to time but most of the sellers are respectable businesses and are required (and do) run checks at the POS. As for requiring all sellers at gun shows…the next step (and I think it’s out there for moving forward) will be if I sell a gun to cyclist I may have to report it (I believe I’d have to get access to the NCIS database etc) Bidens proposals use terms like “predominantly profit” and “repetitively sell” which puts pretty much all of us into our guns at risk for selling Heck, my neighbor is emptying his gun safe. He’s getting rid of A lot of weapons. Laws like they want would Label him and he’d be at risk for federal crimes if all the proposals go through. *Edit I don’t know anyone who’s bought one there that did not get checked No issues for your neighbor to sell his guns as long as it's not as it's not a gun show. So what exactly are you crying about??
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Post by One Man Gang on May 3, 2024 18:26:55 GMT -5
So what exactly are you crying about?? I believe he forgot the "for now" part.
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Post by misterjr on May 3, 2024 18:37:04 GMT -5
I'm not crying, I'm happy President Joe expanded background checks to gun shows.
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Post by garycoleco on May 3, 2024 20:15:00 GMT -5
I'm not crying, I'm happy President Joe expanded background checks to gun shows. You're crying.... The law now reads exactly as you typed it out above. There is no gun show loophole. It's a bullshit boogieman
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Post by walkerdog on May 3, 2024 20:36:30 GMT -5
What does it matter if a private person sells a gun from his garage or from the parking lot of a gun show?
If you’re actually good with one, you can’t reasonably argue that you’re not also good with the other. They are both the same thing.
My guess is that you actually don’t want either location to be legal for a private sale to take place.
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Post by luapnor on May 3, 2024 20:39:07 GMT -5
It's the brainwashing that convinces them that one more law will make them safe.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 3, 2024 20:50:12 GMT -5
There's nothing under the sun that will make any American, of any age or party safer. Everyone has a ticket in the American gun humper lottery of death.
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Post by walkerdog on May 3, 2024 21:03:52 GMT -5
I don’t feel unsafe.
Probably because I avoid going places where it actually isn’t safe.
Every time someone gets on an interstate, they have a greater chance of being killed by another driver than we do going about our lives and getting gunned down. But you don’t see anyone complaining about the dangers of driving cars or about all the people cars kill. Mostly because the chance is small there too.
Those damn car manufacturers have intentionally flooded our streets with vehicles so, according to the logic of some here, we’re all under extreme risk of becoming the victim of vehicular homicide. 🙄
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Post by biminitwisted on May 3, 2024 21:06:04 GMT -5
I don’t feel unsafe. Probably because I avoid going places where it actually isn’t safe. Every time someone gets on an interstate, they have a greater chance of being killed by another driver than we do going about our lives and getting gunned down. But you don’t see anyone complaining about the dangers of driving cars or about all the people cars kill. Mostly because the chance is small there too. Those damn car manufacturers have intentionally flooded our streets with vehicles so, according to the logic of some here, we’re all under extreme risk of becoming the victim of vehicular homicide. 🙄 Road rage shootings would be a better example. Should I pull this weeks numbers?
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Post by biminitwisted on May 3, 2024 21:06:58 GMT -5
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Post by walkerdog on May 3, 2024 21:13:05 GMT -5
I don’t feel unsafe. Probably because I avoid going places where it actually isn’t safe. Every time someone gets on an interstate, they have a greater chance of being killed by another driver than we do going about our lives and getting gunned down. But you don’t see anyone complaining about the dangers of driving cars or about all the people cars kill. Mostly because the chance is small there too. Those damn car manufacturers have intentionally flooded our streets with vehicles so, according to the logic of some here, we’re all under extreme risk of becoming the victim of vehicular homicide. 🙄 Road rage shootings would be a better example. Should I pull this weeks numbers? No need. It still won’t be a sensible point of view.
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Post by tonyroma on May 3, 2024 21:50:56 GMT -5
I don’t feel unsafe. Probably because I avoid going places where it actually isn’t safe. Every time someone gets on an interstate, they have a greater chance of being killed by another driver than we do going about our lives and getting gunned down. But you don’t see anyone complaining about the dangers of driving cars or about all the people cars kill. Mostly because the chance is small there too. Those damn car manufacturers have intentionally flooded our streets with vehicles so, according to the logic of some here, we’re all under extreme risk of becoming the victim of vehicular homicide. 🙄 So you avoid schools , Walmart , concerts , parks , grocery stores , churches. BT is right, bullet in the head is American as SEC football.
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Post by cadman on May 4, 2024 5:10:12 GMT -5
I would think gun shows would only want those who paid for a booth to sell guns. I think it would be easy for the gun show to verify anyone who operated a booth was an FFL-licensed dealer, that would eliminate 99% of the objections about gun shows. I do not see how the gun show could stop two guys from transacting a sale in the parking lot and doubt this new rule would stop that.
But I still agree that ATF, the Justice Department, and Biden overstepped their executive authority in passing this rule and doubt it holds up to the court challenges already being made. So it is likely going to be a moot issue soon. The current version of SCOTUS should rule this is not what Congress intended and it does not follow the historical laws regarding private sales.
It would be nice if Congress would address the issue, but they are too busy fighting each other to accomplish anything.
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