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Post by kemper2 on Nov 2, 2024 13:25:40 GMT -5
Why you gotta be such a prick about it. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't . Now you got ferris' post showing as being an hour ago when it was made yesterday . And you have it out of order and my response to that post doesn't show . I wasn't disrespecting his past service and I showed that in my response. Swallow your pride for a minute and ask proboards to look into it and see what they say. It isn't Proboards. It was you. You screwed up the first time you quoted Ferris and it messed up every quote back and forth after that. I know since I fixed your screw up. You are always calling names and being an ass, but get upset when someone returns the favor. Quit being an ass and others will too. Got that BT twist going there. I never accused you of removing any thing. You said earlier - " If it was Proboards quote function that caused it, that is beyond my control. " Now you seem confident it was something I did. You also complained about not wanting to fix every post, yet nobody asked you to or even cared. Another twisted response to make it look like you were addressing a concern. You need to get a uniform to wear when moderating. It might help to make you look and act different than when you're not. |
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 13:26:28 GMT -5
Itâs beyond wrong for anyone to disrespect a serviceman who has stood up for his country and the citizens of America. PERIOD Especially those who served in the Vietnam War. These fine Americans were disrespected upon their return to our country by many when they should have been greeted with open arms and immense gratitude Although I may argue and disagree with anyoneâs political views I will never be able to express my gratitude for theses unsung heroes. God Blesd Them. God Bless America đşđ¸ While a servicemanâs service should always be respected, the individual themselves donât necessarily need to be automatically afforded respect, on the basis of their service alone. There are things they can do to lose respect. Not saying thatâs the case with Ferris. Just pointing out the fact that there is a distinction between the service and the individual. |
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 13:34:27 GMT -5
Fox fâed around and found out, not sure if CBS will or not and I donât own stock in either, work at either or watch either so to me itâs nothing but more drivel. You guys certainly eat it up though! A little off topic but I do find it odd that if some Russian posts misinformation it is election interference but when a lot of you do it all the time on here and Iâm guessing elsewhere itâs not? To me interference would be stealing your ballot, holding you hostage so you canât go to the polls and such. What people post and believe isnât interference in my book, and if people believe the propaganda itâs their own fault. YMMV You think foreign governments have the same rights as American Citizens regarding our elections? Foreign governments do not have the right to influence who anyone votes for. American citizens do. As far as a Fox and CBS comparison. Fox lied about Dominion. CBS did not lie about Trump. CBS just edited an answer to a question in an interview. Nobody claimed that CBS lied about Trump. What was said is that they lied to the American people to influence the outcome of the election, just like the 51 intelligence personnel did. Some Americans are okay with CBS lying to them and others are less so. |
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 13:45:03 GMT -5
Weâll see if there actually is âequal treatment under the lawâ. How much money do you think should CBS be required to pay and to whom? CBS did not lie about any candidate or company. They told no lie about Trump. They edited a response to a question. The case will be thrown out. Trump just did this for the publicity. His lawyers know it is bogus. Do you believe that if you edit something to change the message that it conveys that you are doing something other than misrepresenting it? Is Harris not a candidate any longer? CBS deliberately changed what a candidate said so that it could influence how that person was viewed by those who viewed their broadcast. How is that not misrepresenting the truth? |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Nov 2, 2024 13:46:13 GMT -5
Itâs beyond wrong for anyone to disrespect a serviceman who has stood up for his country and the citizens of America. PERIOD Especially those who served in the Vietnam War. These fine Americans were disrespected upon their return to our country by many when they should have been greeted with open arms and immense gratitude Although I may argue and disagree with anyoneâs political views I will never be able to express my gratitude for theses unsung heroes. God Blesd Them. God Bless America đşđ¸ While a servicemanâs service should always be respected, the individual themselves donât necessarily need to be automatically afforded respect, on the basis of their service alone. There are things they can do to lose respect. Not saying thatâs the case with Ferris. Just pointing out the fact that there is a distinction between the service and the individual. I agree but it is wrong to disparage a person and include in the insult reference to their service |
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 13:50:16 GMT -5
While a servicemanâs service should always be respected, the individual themselves donât necessarily need to be automatically afforded respect, on the basis of their service alone. There are things they can do to lose respect. Not saying thatâs the case with Ferris. Just pointing out the fact that there is a distinction between the service and the individual. I agree but it is wrong to disparage a person and include in the insult reference to their service I agree that the two shouldnât be combined. If you have disrespect for a person who was a serviceman, it should never be on the basis of their serviceâŚ. unless their service was dishonorable. |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Nov 2, 2024 13:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 13:57:33 GMT -5
You think foreign governments have the same rights as American Citizens regarding our elections? Foreign governments do not have the right to influence who anyone votes for. American citizens do. As far as a Fox and CBS comparison. Fox lied about Dominion. CBS did not lie about Trump. CBS just edited an answer to a question in an interview. Nobody claimed that CBS lied about Trump. What was said is that they lied to the American people to influence the outcome of the election, just like the 51 intelligence personnel did. Some Americans are okay with CBS lying to them and others are less so. What lies? Please be specific.
Some people are apparently OK with lying about lying and others are less so.
Let's see which one you are.
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 14:03:59 GMT -5
See my post to Cad above for my response to you as well.
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 14:10:04 GMT -5
I saw that post. It says nothing about specific lies, but it does attempt to move the goalposts. Let me help: The edited interview wasn't lying. Neither was the letter signed by those intelligence agents. Of course, I could be wrong, so please point out the specific lies you seem to think are there so we might discuss them.
Alternatively, we could just wait for the lawsuit to play out so I can tell you that I told you so.
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 14:13:18 GMT -5
I saw that post. It says nothing about specific lies, but it does attempt to move the goalposts. Let me help: The edited interview wasn't lying. Neither was the letter of 51 intelligence agents. Of course, I could be wrong, so please point out the specific lies you seem to think are there so we might discuss them. Misrepresenting the truth might be your preferred term for what they were doing. They mean the same thing to me, but you might not see it that way. |
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 14:16:33 GMT -5
That's not my preferred term at all, and of course you see them the same way. However, they are hardly the same thing in language or in law. You know, the things that lawsuits are based on, and the precise reason why you cannot or will not answer my question. Again, let me help: The interview was edited, as interviews are. The letter was opinion. Neither were lies or even misrepresentations of the truth, except in the mind of an over-litigious baby (and his followers) who seemingly invent terms to suit this week's outrage, then move goalposts and shrink away when called out on it.
Notice a pattern?
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 14:33:35 GMT -5
That's not my preferred term at all, and of course you see them the same way. However, they are hardly the same thing in language or in law. You know, the things that lawsuits are based on, and the precise reason why you cannot or will not answer my question. Again, let me help:Â The interview was edited, as interviews are. The letter was opinion. Neither were lies or even misrepresentations of the truth, except in the mind of an over-litigious baby (and his followers) who seemingly invent terms to suit this week's outrage, then move goalposts and shrink away when called out on it.
Notice a pattern?
Precisely how is misrepresenting the truth different from lying? In your opinion of course. I could care less about the semantics of the law as it pertains to how the two terms might differ. I could care less about the lawsuit or its outcome. I do care though that the media deliberately misrepresents things to fit the narrative to what they want it to say rather than just saying what was said. Abbreviating a message is different than changing its meaning (if you need proof of this, maybe you should ask a lawyer), although editing can do either, neither, or both. Of course all broadcasts are edited. Usually to make it shorter but not different. When editing is done to change what is meant, itâs a misrepresentation, also known as an untruth, AKA a lie. |
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 14:38:33 GMT -5
Look the words up yourself.
I'm sure you could not care less. However, the law does. |
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Post by ferris1248 on Nov 2, 2024 14:38:57 GMT -5
Itâs beyond wrong for anyone to disrespect a serviceman who has stood up for his country and the citizens of America. PERIOD Especially those who served in the Vietnam War. These fine Americans were disrespected upon their return to our country by many when they should have been greeted with open arms and immense gratitude Although I may argue and disagree with anyoneâs political views I will never be able to express my gratitude for theses unsung heroes. God Blesd Them. God Bless America đşđ¸ While a servicemanâs service should always be respected, the individual themselves donât necessarily need to be automatically afforded respect, on the basis of their service alone. There are things they can do to lose respect. Not saying thatâs the case with Ferris. Just pointing out the fact that there is a distinction between the service and the individual. I would agree with that. My service to my country has nothing to do with my political preferences. If someone wants attack for my politics or my not voting for one or another, have at it. If I don't like it, I can leave. My service should have nothing to do with it. |
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 14:40:31 GMT -5
I'm not the one conflating or confusing them, silly.
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 14:41:16 GMT -5
Look the words up yourself.
I'm sure you could not care less. However, the law does. No need to. If you need to though, knock yourself out. |
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 14:42:05 GMT -5
Yes, I got that already, and, again, I'm not the one conflating or confusing them.
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 14:44:28 GMT -5
I'm not the one conflating or confusing them, silly. Thanks, Sherlock. You are the one who is saying they arenât the same thing. That I disagree doesnât mean I need to do your homework for you though. |
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Post by Tarponator on Nov 2, 2024 14:48:33 GMT -5
It's not my homework, silly. You are free to confuse yourself as much as you want and live your life as ignorantly as you choose. Just trying to help you understand why the lawsuit is bullshit as was your moving of the goalposts and your subsequent missed field goal.
You're welcome.
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 15:22:17 GMT -5
Speaking of ignorant, you sound like that dude that said âI did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.âđ¤Ł
Not a lie. Just a misrepresentation.đ
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Post by kemper2 on Nov 2, 2024 15:28:44 GMT -5
I don't see nothing wrong with telling someone that did what was best for the Country in the past , that they are not currently doing so.
Telling someone " they seem to have lost their way " wouldn't be a slight on someone's past.
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Post by cadman on Nov 2, 2024 16:01:27 GMT -5
You think foreign governments have the same rights as American Citizens regarding our elections? Foreign governments do not have the right to influence who anyone votes for. American citizens do. As far as a Fox and CBS comparison. Fox lied about Dominion. CBS did not lie about Trump. CBS just edited an answer to a question in an interview. Nobody claimed that CBS lied about Trump. What was said is that they lied to the American people to influence the outcome of the election, just like the 51 intelligence personnel did. Some Americans are okay with CBS lying to them and others are less so. CBS lied to nobody, they edited a TV interview. It happens all the time. Fox edits a lot of Trump's remarks. |
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Post by cadman on Nov 2, 2024 16:05:05 GMT -5
CBS did not lie about any candidate or company. They told no lie about Trump. They edited a response to a question. The case will be thrown out. Trump just did this for the publicity. His lawyers know it is bogus. Do you believe that if you edit something to change the message that it conveys that you are doing something other than misrepresenting it? Is Harris not a candidate any longer? CBS deliberately changed what a candidate said so that it could influence how that person was viewed by those who viewed their broadcast. How is that not misrepresenting the truth? How did they change the answer? You saw two edits of the same reply. |
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 16:20:48 GMT -5
How did they not?
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Post by kemper2 on Nov 2, 2024 16:23:05 GMT -5
Do you believe that if you edit something to change the message that it conveys that you are doing something other than misrepresenting it? Is Harris not a candidate any longer? CBS deliberately changed what a candidate said so that it could influence how that person was viewed by those who viewed their broadcast. How is that not misrepresenting the truth? How did they change the answer? You saw two edits of the same reply. That's not what he asked you . He asked you- " How is that not misrepresenting the truth? " Just trying to help. |
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Nov 2, 2024 16:47:10 GMT -5
Trump sued for rape and a host of other things and investigated for crimes. Maga:which hunt. Fake news he's innocent
Trump sues someone on some pretty thin argument Maga: he shoukd. They are trying to steel the election. Gluck Gluck Gluck
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Post by walkerdog on Nov 2, 2024 18:22:55 GMT -5
Not to change the subject, but to be fair, some of the things people here like to accuse him of are based on similarly weak arguments.
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Post by ferris1248 on Nov 2, 2024 19:13:00 GMT -5
I don't see nothing wrong with telling someone that did what was best for the Country in the past , that they are not currently doing so. Telling someone " they seem to have lost their way " wouldn't be a slight on someone's past. But that's not what you said dipshit. In addition to your disrespect, now you are lying. |
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Post by kemper2 on Nov 2, 2024 20:39:07 GMT -5
I don't see nothing wrong with telling someone that did what was best for the Country in the past , that they are not currently doing so. Telling someone " they seem to have lost their way " wouldn't be a slight on someone's past. But that's not what you said dipshit. In addition to your disrespect, now you are lying. My words are all still here. If you are claiming I said something it's on you to point it out. I stand by my comments . |
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