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Post by nuthinfancy on Jun 5, 2024 12:38:11 GMT -5
I was flipping through some WMA brochures this morning for some areas I intend to bowhunt this fall, checking the season dates and such when a certain regulation stuck out to me in the Corbett regs. The rules state that hunting with archery gear is prohibited during the muzzleloader season, unless you’re in their little designated bow hunting area. I sat for a bit trying to figure their basis for such a rule and came up empty. So naturally I dialed up the regional office to get an answer. Got passed to 3 different individuals, including one who is an onsite staff for Corbett specifically. They all confirmed that is in fact the rule, but all admitted to being clueless regarding the reason. “Rules are rules” was the answer one guy gave. I asked him how much the ticket would cost and he wouldn’t give me an answer. Anyway, have another person that’ll call tomorrow to hopefully give me a legitimate answer but I have my doubts.
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Post by meateater on Jun 5, 2024 13:50:31 GMT -5
maybe to control the number of felons hunting during muzzleloader and gen gun seasons that rule has never been enforced 1 time in last 25 years. if you can hunt during the week archery only area is pretty good.
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Glenn
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Post by Glenn on Jun 5, 2024 14:14:03 GMT -5
I was flipping through some WMA brochures this morning for some areas I intend to bowhunt this fall, checking the season dates and such when a certain regulation stuck out to me in the Corbett regs. The rules state that hunting with archery gear is prohibited during the muzzleloader season, unless you’re in their little designated bow hunting area. I sat for a bit trying to figure their basis for such a rule and came up empty. So naturally I dialed up the regional office to get an answer. Got passed to 3 different individuals, including one who is an onsite staff for Corbett specifically. They all confirmed that is in fact the rule, but all admitted to being clueless regarding the reason. “Rules are rules” was the answer one guy gave. I asked him how much the ticket would cost and he wouldn’t give me an answer. Anyway, have another person that’ll call tomorrow to hopefully give me a legitimate answer but I have my doubts. You have to remember that 95% of employees at FWC are not hunters nor do they know anything about hunting regulations. Those rules were set back when a muzzleloader season was established and that had to be in the 80’s.
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Post by ogbohica on Jun 5, 2024 17:01:51 GMT -5
Has nothing to do with managing game rather people... BOHICA
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Post by richm on Jun 6, 2024 5:58:59 GMT -5
What's the big deal? It is ML season. Racism at it's finest. You probably hate Xbows too.
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Post by JS84 on Jun 6, 2024 6:48:44 GMT -5
All bows matter
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 6, 2024 8:09:58 GMT -5
Would be nice if some of the water management properties were open to archery only. Cypress Creek in Pasco county would be a nice one and a good example. It's accessible with plenty of trails for bikes. It has a couple of paved trails(single lane for a vehicle and nice shell roads). Lots of game in there too.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jun 6, 2024 9:32:16 GMT -5
The WMDs are either anti hunting, or gravitating towards a anti hunting sentiment. They only give what they have to.
The only recreation they care about are equine activities and killing hogs so the horse people don't have to dodge rutted up trails.
Use hog hunting as a means to get a foot in the door for hunting access on your WMD lands. In the meantime, here's your public service announcement: Abide by the current rules in place and work to have them changed if you don't like them. Don't fuck it up for me or give them reasons to throttle back on my access or opportunities. If you fuck it up for me, you're fucking it up for yourselves.
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Post by wildman on Jun 6, 2024 9:35:15 GMT -5
The answer I got in the past was that Muzzleloader hunters didn't want Archery hunters using up available quota permits, increased crowding/hunting pressure, etc. Don't necessarily agree with it, but often the "squeaky wheel gets the grease."
Sometimes hunters can be their own worst enemies. As I understand it, when quota hunts were first established it was because hunters were complaining about too much hunting pressure/crowding on the WMAs. Look where that got us these days...
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 6, 2024 9:39:18 GMT -5
In the past when I had hog dogs I would take them on walks in WMD land. Sometime dogs do dog things and get away from you.
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Post by meateater on Jun 6, 2024 9:51:08 GMT -5
The answer I got in the past was that Muzzleloader hunters didn't want Archery hunters using up available quota permits, increased crowding/hunting pressure, etc. Don't necessarily agree with it, but often the "squeaky wheel gets the grease." Sometimes hunters can be their own worst enemies. As I understand it, when quota hunts were first established it was because hunters were complaining about too much hunting pressure/crowding on the WMAs. Look where that got us these days... corbett is no quota, no reason for this rule. on quota only areas i 100% agree no bowhunters during blackpowder season.
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Post by richm on Jun 6, 2024 9:52:32 GMT -5
The answer I got in the past was that Muzzleloader hunters didn't want Archery hunters using up available quota permits, increased crowding/hunting pressure, etc. Don't necessarily agree with it, but often the "squeaky wheel gets the grease." Sometimes hunters can be their own worst enemies. As I understand it, when quota hunts were first established it was because hunters were complaining about too much hunting pressure/crowding on the WMAs. Look where that got us these days... I did like it when they went non-transferrable on the permits. Allowed me to hunt a few places, and get threatened for being in "Joe's spot". Public land at its finest. It has calmed down a bit and the guest slot is nice so you can at least share hunts if you want to.
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Post by meateater on Jun 6, 2024 9:56:15 GMT -5
oh the reason on quota only places is theres a much larger group of self righteous tools who are to great of a hunter to use a muzzleloader or rifle , if they were allowed to get a quota/permit it would take away chances from guys who dont use bows.
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Post by meateater on Jun 6, 2024 10:09:32 GMT -5
The answer I got in the past was that Muzzleloader hunters didn't want Archery hunters using up available quota permits, increased crowding/hunting pressure, etc. Don't necessarily agree with it, but often the "squeaky wheel gets the grease." Sometimes hunters can be their own worst enemies. As I understand it, when quota hunts were first established it was because hunters were complaining about too much hunting pressure/crowding on the WMAs. Look where that got us these days... I did like it when they went non-transferrable on the permits. Allowed me to hunt a few places, and get threatened for being in "Joe's spot". Public land at its finest. It has calmed down a bit and the guest slot is nice so you can at least share hunts if you want to. next time your at a decent wma , you know every 4 years on average ask the check station attendent or check the sign in book, how many hunters showed up to hunt. last year at ok slough for a hunt i was the guest 33 total no shows on saturday, 13 people hunting monday, cant remember if permit was good on tuesday but sure that number was less then monday. 125 permits given out , 33 wasted, 13 hunters on monday. over half the hunters leave by noon on sunday, so much wasted hunting opportunities for others thats what non transferable did. it was ok 15 years ago or whenever it started but today it sucks, unless you dont mind hunting a decent place every 4 years.
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Post by james14 on Jun 6, 2024 12:01:05 GMT -5
The answer I got in the past was that Muzzleloader hunters didn't want Archery hunters using up available quota permits, increased crowding/hunting pressure, etc. Don't necessarily agree with it, but often the "squeaky wheel gets the grease." Sometimes hunters can be their own worst enemies. As I understand it, when quota hunts were first established it was because hunters were complaining about too much hunting pressure/crowding on the WMAs. Look where that got us these days... corbett is no quota, no reason for this rule. on quota only areas i 100% agree no bowhunters during blackpowder season. So, it's not just about the quotas, but the overall usage of the land.
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