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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 23, 2024 15:02:08 GMT -5
a guy at my sons work cut off his hand at the wrist, actually it was ripped off. the company, workmans comp, even insurance company doing everything they can not to pay 1 penny more then they have too. he tested positive for weed and now he,s screwed. recreational gonna get a few people in trouble at work if they get hurt. be careful potheads. That is why I quit for 27 years during the height of my career. Now that I’m retired I’m trying to cut back on drinking and supplementing it by toking a little bit. I must say that the weed is a lot stronger now. When I stopped sinsimilla was just becoming a thing. Mostly the famous Gainesville Green. I don’t know if that is even around anymore. Oh that Gainesville Green was some good stuff. I remember selling it in high school.
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Post by johngalt on Apr 23, 2024 17:41:20 GMT -5
One other problem with so called legalization,, Even if the feds legalize pot how will that affect the insurance companies and industries like the transportation industry which has a zero drug policy? It’s one thing for an old worthless retired bum living in the woods getting stoned but what about the next time you climb aboard an airliner? Or pull up along side a truck carrying 8500 gallons of fuel? My opinion is that the insurance companies will not tolerate it. But maybe I’m wrong?
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Post by conchydong on Apr 23, 2024 17:45:51 GMT -5
Time and place for every thing. I would expect that people that do important work would refrain like I did but people that are going to do certain things will do it anyway whether it’s legal or not.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 23, 2024 17:45:58 GMT -5
One other problem with so called legalization,, Even if the feds legalize pot how will that affect the insurance companies and industries like the transportation industry which has a zero drug policy? It’s one thing for an old worthless retired bum living in the woods getting stoned but what about the next time you climb aboard an airliner? Or pull up along side a truck carrying 8500 gallons of fuel? My opinion is that the insurance companies will not tolerate it. But maybe I’m wrong? DOT would keep its rules in place. Just like they have rules for drinking. Since impairment can be measured yet, zero weed will continue to be the standard
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Post by johngalt on Apr 23, 2024 17:51:19 GMT -5
And as far as some comments that smoking pot has no impairment on driving. Yeah right!😁 just a little while ago some knot head kept sitting at the green light, both of those idiots were passing a joint around and when they did move they went through the red light.
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Post by conchydong on Apr 23, 2024 19:47:42 GMT -5
And as far as some comments that smoking pot has no impairment on driving. Yeah right!😁 just a little while ago some knot head kept sitting at the green light, both of those idiots were passing a joint around and when they did move they went through the red light.
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Post by nikonoclast on Apr 24, 2024 0:36:59 GMT -5
No matter what the Federal stance, it's possible some states will never go for it.
I won't mention any names ...
Open carry, and 14 year old cousins getting married, will stay legal
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Post by cadman on Apr 24, 2024 7:13:49 GMT -5
One other problem with so called legalization,, Even if the feds legalize pot how will that affect the insurance companies and industries like the transportation industry which has a zero drug policy? It’s one thing for an old worthless retired bum living in the woods getting stoned but what about the next time you climb aboard an airliner? Or pull up along side a truck carrying 8500 gallons of fuel? My opinion is that the insurance companies will not tolerate it. But maybe I’m wrong? Legalization won't affect work rules about not using it. Same as you can't drink and drive. The companies can still have rules saying no cannabis is your system while operating one of our vehicles. How do they stop truck drivers who drink alcohol while driving that is legal to buy?
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Post by johngalt on Apr 24, 2024 10:42:17 GMT -5
One other problem with so called legalization,, Even if the feds legalize pot how will that affect the insurance companies and industries like the transportation industry which has a zero drug policy? It’s one thing for an old worthless retired bum living in the woods getting stoned but what about the next time you climb aboard an airliner? Or pull up along side a truck carrying 8500 gallons of fuel? My opinion is that the insurance companies will not tolerate it. But maybe I’m wrong? Legalization won't affect work rules about not using it. Same as you can't drink and drive. The companies can still have rules saying no cannabis is your system while operating one of our vehicles. How do they stop truck drivers who drink alcohol while driving that is legal to buy? I guess you missed my first post? Alcohol will leave your system in around 12 hours or so depending on your physiological makeup. Cannabis and other drugs can be detected for days if not weeks.
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Post by madbeach on Apr 24, 2024 11:38:02 GMT -5
The difficult part, as previously said, is that it can be 'detected' in your system for quite some time. That doesn't mean you're under the influence. How they will be able to detect whether or not you are currently under the influence by the substance will be the tricky part.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 24, 2024 11:45:40 GMT -5
Blood is what's in your system.
Urine is what's stored in your body(substances)
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 24, 2024 11:52:49 GMT -5
The difficult part, as previously said, is that it can be 'detected' in your system for quite some time. That doesn't mean you're under the influence. How they will be able to detect whether or not you are currently under the influence by the substance will be the tricky part. The amount of THC in the system can be quantified (not quickly or easily), but it also has to be interpreted by an expert that will say X amount is enough to impair someone. That is an opinion and you can have experts disagreeing on whether X amount is enough to impair or not. It would be more efficient to simply figure out a minimum amount that most impassioned experts believe is enough to impair the average person and make that the cutoff for driving with THC in the system. There also needs to be a way to quantify it before a DUI charge is levied. Blood specimens require a warrant in most circumstances in Florida and that’s usually reserved for DUIs involving death or serious bodily injury. There’s going to need to be a way for urine tests to accurately and reliably quantify THC.
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Post by cadman on Apr 24, 2024 12:33:35 GMT -5
The difficult part, as previously said, is that it can be 'detected' in your system for quite some time. That doesn't mean you're under the influence. How they will be able to detect whether or not you are currently under the influence by the substance will be the tricky part. The amount of THC in the system can be quantified (not quickly or easily), but it also has to be interpreted by an expert that will say X amount is enough to impair someone. That is an opinion and you can have experts disagreeing on whether X amount is enough to impair or not. It would be more efficient to simply figure out a minimum amount that most impassioned experts believe is enough to impair the average person and make that the cutoff for driving with THC in the system. There also needs to be a way to quantify it before a DUI charge is levied. Blood specimens require a warrant in most circumstances in Florida and that’s usually reserved for DUIs involving death or serious bodily injury. There’s going to need to be a way for urine tests to accurately and reliably quantify THC. They are testing saliva methods currently to determine THC levels.
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Post by madbeach on Apr 24, 2024 12:46:40 GMT -5
I wonder how accurate the saliva test is. Or could it create false positives due to residual thc stored in fatty tissue from weeks ago and just went for a run.
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Post by meateater on Apr 24, 2024 13:01:56 GMT -5
semen is the only 100% accurate way to test levels instantly so roadside samples may be in the future for you pot heads. and cops thought there job sucked before.
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