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Post by Captj on Apr 23, 2024 7:52:09 GMT -5
Feds still raid grow operations in California and elsewhere where it's legal. That's one good reason to remove it from the Federal register. Here in Florida recreational use is on the ballot in November much to the chagrin of our Governor and legislature. Going to be interesting when it passes overwhelmingly. south florida,,,,, thats exactly what the number one area in the country needs, #1 for uninsured motorists, #1 for insurance fraud,#1 for unlicensed drivers, some of the highest car insurance premiums in the country. hell yea bring on the doper potheads to drive around town, everybody should be happy about that. News flash! At least half the drivers in south Fl drive as if they're either high or mentally disabled already (might be a low estimate). A little herb may actually slow things down a bit.
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Post by OhMy on Apr 23, 2024 8:35:50 GMT -5
The only relevance to the discussion is recreational use. Total delisting means recreational use. And less than half of the states currently allow it for recreational use. Do you not think that "medical" use is actually mostly recreational use? The justifications for a medical weed card include anxiety, trouble sleeping, headaches... "I worry sometimes... I can't sleep sometimes... my head hurts sometimes"- that describes everyone. If you want to be able to smoke weed legally it's pretty easy to get a "prescription". It's not just a coincidence that states that initially allowed only medical weed were the ones that then pivoted to legal recreational use. Medical use is a ploy, a foot in the door. So, yeah... relevant. No matter how you spin it bullfrog is correct. How do you know how people are using marijuana? If it becomes recreational who cares, anybody can go buy some, just like beer or vodka.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 23, 2024 8:45:26 GMT -5
These chocolate bars we got from the dispo are wonderful. I take two pieces an hour before bed and sleep like a rock. Been getting some nice packs too if anyone needs anything.
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Post by johngalt on Apr 23, 2024 9:00:42 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉
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Post by OhMy on Apr 23, 2024 9:17:49 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 Good point. Alcohol leaves your system in 24 hours. I think marijuana takes longer but depends on how frequently you use it.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 23, 2024 9:59:24 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 Blood test is the most accurate for testing what's currently going on in your body.
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Post by meateater on Apr 23, 2024 10:41:14 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 a guy at my sons work cut off his hand at the wrist, actually it was ripped off. the company, workmans comp, even insurance company doing everything they can not to pay 1 penny more then they have too. he tested positive for weed and now he,s screwed. recreational gonna get a few people in trouble at work if they get hurt. be careful potheads.
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Post by throttle on Apr 23, 2024 11:36:07 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 You'd think that legalization on a national level would require the development of tests to determine whether a person is actually "under the influence" as opposed to merely has measurable residual in their system, which is what current DOT drug testing measures. But no... Canada has legalized weed, but rather than come up with some standards on actual intoxication they've simply decided pilots can't consume weed within 28 days of flying, so the current testing regime still applies. That's some slack ass lazy governing they're doing there...
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Post by cadman on Apr 23, 2024 11:56:09 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 You'd think that legalization on a national level would require the development of tests to determine whether a person is actually "under the influence" as opposed to merely has measurable residual in their system, which is what current DOT drug testing measures. But no... Canada has legalized weed, but rather than come up with some standards on actual intoxication they've simply decided pilots can't consume weed within 28 days of flying, so the current testing regime still applies. That's some slack ass lazy governing they're doing there... There are new testing methods being tested by various groups currently that can tell when you last used cannabis or other drugs.
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 23, 2024 12:13:24 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 You'd think that legalization on a national level would require the development of tests to determine whether a person is actually "under the influence" as opposed to merely has measurable residual in their system, which is what current DOT drug testing measures. But no... Canada has legalized weed, but rather than come up with some standards on actual intoxication they've simply decided pilots can't consume weed within 28 days of flying, so the current testing regime still applies. That's some slack ass lazy governing they're doing there... That’s actually something some of us are pushing for. There needs to be a defined amount of cannabis that’s prohibited to have in a person’s system while operating a motor vehicle. The current state of the law (at least in Florida) doesn’t define when a person is or isn’t under the influence of cannabis to the extent their normal faculties are impaired. With alcohol, there’s a presumption of impairment above .08, and above .08 is prohibited to drive with whether someone is impaired or not. There needs to be a similar clear standard for cannabis.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 23, 2024 12:15:28 GMT -5
Driving stoned is a lot easier than drunk.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 23, 2024 12:45:24 GMT -5
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Post by nuevowavo on Apr 23, 2024 13:54:18 GMT -5
A municipal Chief of Police told me he had no problem with it, and his guys never pulled over anyone who was so impaired by (solely) marijuana that they shouldn't be driving.
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Post by madbeach on Apr 23, 2024 13:58:26 GMT -5
Legalize it for recreation. Find a legal limit for driving. Find a better way for testing roadside, including ways to test for other narcotics in the system. May not be the best thing for our society, but far better than being around a drunk, or prescription junkie, especially behind the wheel.
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Post by conchydong on Apr 23, 2024 14:36:35 GMT -5
Reading through this I noticed no one noticed the gorilla in the room. Measurement and legal limits. How do you measure the legal limits? As a truck driver I am subject to a drug test at any time and,, if I am involved in any type of accident no matter the severity and with a hazmat license it’s even more so. This also involves aircrews and railroad workers. If a driver smokes some weed Friday night and has an accident Tuesday afternoon, the testing detects marijuana he is done. Loss of licensing, loss of job and probably never drive commercially again. Personally I don’t do drugs of any kind and very little respect for those that do. But, be careful what you wish for. 😉 a guy at my sons work cut off his hand at the wrist, actually it was ripped off. the company, workmans comp, even insurance company doing everything they can not to pay 1 penny more then they have too. he tested positive for weed and now he,s screwed. recreational gonna get a few people in trouble at work if they get hurt. be careful potheads. That is why I quit for 27 years during the height of my career. Now that I’m retired I’m trying to cut back on drinking and supplementing it by toking a little bit. I must say that the weed is a lot stronger now. When I stopped sinsimilla was just becoming a thing. Mostly the famous Gainesville Green. I don’t know if that is even around anymore.
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