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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 15, 2023 15:27:08 GMT -5
Lmfao... believing Tee-rump was given a fair shake and got all the rope and opportunities to do what needed to be done is about as rich as actually believing the crowd was cheering, "Let's go Brandon!" I guess I'm the only one old enough to remember the reality that he, and his party, controlled all three branches of government for two years. But tell us more about this "fair shake" fantasy. |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 15, 2023 15:43:42 GMT -5
Well when you get browbeat and are threatened to lose your everything you've worked for from MSM and the vicious rabid socialist left at every turn, you're bound to start thinking about acquiescence and saving your skin. Hell, I once considered myself a little bit of a tough guy in my younger days, but question myself if I now have the fortitude to publicly admit certain things for fear of backlash. That notion in itself is un-American and it is a wound that has been festering in politics for a long time... you guys probably think a bear hunt in FL is a unwarranted, cruel act and have badgered the commission to ignore science and give in to your ridiculous ideology... as an example.
Look, I think both D and Rs are culpable here and neither party is worth a squat at this point. I don't feel as if either party has my best interests, or YOU'RE best interests in their plans either. As a middle of the road conservative who is a registered I,I can at least admit these things rather than just blindly ignore the truth and toe a ridiculously reprehensible party line at every juncture.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 15, 2023 15:53:43 GMT -5
Well when you get browbeat and are threatened to lose your everything you've worked for from MSM and the vicious rabid socialist left at every turn, you're bound to start thinking about acquiescence and saving your skin. Hell, I once considered myself a little bit of a tough guy in my younger days, but question myself if I now have the fortitude to publicly admit certain things for fear of backlash. That notion in itself is un-American and it is a wound that has been festering in politics for a long time... you guys probably think a bear hunt in FL is a unwarranted, cruel act and have badgered the commission to ignore science and give in to your ridiculous ideology... as an example. Look, I think both D and Rs are culpable here and neither party is worth a squat at this point. I don't feel as if either party has my best interests, or YOU'RE best interests in their plans either. As a middle of the road conservative who is a registered I,I can at least admit these things rather than just blindly ignore the truth and toe a ridiculously reprehensible party line at every juncture. You don't think that every President in history has had to deal with that? It's the job, and clearly, Trump was, nor is, up to it. You think Brandon is getting a fair shake now? Difference is you don't hear him crying sore every day, and always whining that he's a victim. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 17:32:31 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Tee-rump was reluctant to shut down and fall into lock step with the rest of the world and it totally chaffed the asses of his advisors, Faucis regime, the rest of the compliant world order globalists, and particularly some of the left leaning libs on this forum. They all were calling for his head because he didn't shut down. The then they further lambasted him because he didn't shut down quick enough, The guy literally fought a uphill battle from the day he announced his candidacy. Now he is still the big Covid culprit to point the global finger at, and by proxy he is the big bad wolf for a retarded economy. So, are you saying he caved in and shut down the economy by telling everyone to work at home, avoid unnecessary trips and social gatherings? He was a weak President who didn't have the balls to follow his convictions and keep the country open? Trump was never reluctant to shut down the economy. He knew it had to be done. It was the only choice. He tried to play it off on his supporters to keep them happy that he was didn't want to do it. If you give Trump credit for all the good stuff until Covid, he has to take responsibility for all of the decisions during the pandemic. A few even modify history and try to say Biden was President during the lockdown. He was the President. He is no Covid culprit, he made the correct decisions at the time regarding the shutdown. I do not think we have a retarded economy presently and he would not be the blame if we did. Someone who hates Biden was the guy blaming the shutdown, only because he forgot Trump was in charge then. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 18:23:42 GMT -5
You are correct, this is his baby and if you don't want four more years of the retard, you better hope for a recession next year. This "baby" will get him re-elected. Inflation like this normally means one term and living in shame your remaining days Reagan's first two years had inflation of 10.3% and 6.1%, fell to 3.2% in 1983 and back up to 4.3% when he was re-elected in 1984. We also had 10% interest rates in 1984. Biden has had 4.7% in 2021 and 8% in 2022. It is predicted to be in the 3.5% range for 2023 and 2024 it is predicted back below 3%. You may be thinking of Carter, which going back to 1920 was the only one term President with high inflation, but it was also followed by other issues at the same time, high unemployment and 10% interest rates. He has not lived his remaining days in shame either. So I am unsure to whom your refer. Voters have short term memories and will be voting based on 2023 and 2024 economy. Biden will play that he brought inflation under control. Without any further bad news like a recession, which is still possible, or some "October surprise", he will be very difficult to beat. Biden's job approval rating is also improving and if it continues, that is another bad sign for his opposition. Looking at favorability ratings, the reason Hillary lost and Biden won last time, Trump is hated more than Biden. Hillary lost in 2016 because Trump was more likeable and Trump lost in 2020 because Biden was more likeable, It will be a close race, but looking at the current data, Biden is going to be hard to beat. |
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Post by throttle on Jul 16, 2023 4:10:49 GMT -5
It's an indisputable fact that inflation is down, and still trending down. Criticize all you want, but please stop ignoring reality. It's not a great look. How soon do you think Biden can bring prices back to where they were under Trump? Cuz that would be great. Really great. |
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Post by GaryS on Jul 16, 2023 5:28:54 GMT -5
And salaries trailing inflation.
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Post by skunkdog on Jul 16, 2023 7:12:04 GMT -5
Inflation like this normally means one term and living in shame your remaining days Reagan's first two years had inflation of 10.3% and 6.1%, fell to 3.2% in 1983 and back up to 4.3% when he was re-elected in 1984. We also had 10% interest rates in 1984. Biden has had 4.7% in 2021 and 8% in 2022. It is predicted to be in the 3.5% range for 2023 and 2024 it is predicted back below 3%. You may be thinking of Carter, which going back to 1920 was the only one term President with high inflation, but it was also followed by other issues at the same time, high unemployment and 10% interest rates. He has not lived his remaining days in shame either. So I am unsure to whom your refer. Voters have short term memories and will be voting based on 2023 and 2024 economy. Biden will play that he brought inflation under control. Without any further bad news like a recession, which is still possible, or some "October surprise", he will be very difficult to beat. Biden's job approval rating is also improving and if it continues, that is another bad sign for his opposition. Looking at favorability ratings, the reason Hillary lost and Biden won last time, Trump is hated more than Biden. Hillary lost in 2016 because Trump was more likeable and Trump lost in 2020 because Biden was more likeable, It will be a close race, but looking at the current data, Biden is going to be hard to beat. Jimmy shit the bed a lot, the Iran hostages and failed rescue attempt along with all of his other failures was reason enough to make him a one termer. Biden is worse than him. |
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Post by skunkdog on Jul 16, 2023 7:13:51 GMT -5
I'd sure like to see some examples of this inflation coming down, I sure the hell don't see it at Lowes, the gas pumps, the feed stores, or the grocery stores.
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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2023 8:59:31 GMT -5
Reagan's first two years had inflation of 10.3% and 6.1%, fell to 3.2% in 1983 and back up to 4.3% when he was re-elected in 1984. We also had 10% interest rates in 1984. Biden has had 4.7% in 2021 and 8% in 2022. It is predicted to be in the 3.5% range for 2023 and 2024 it is predicted back below 3%. You may be thinking of Carter, which going back to 1920 was the only one term President with high inflation, but it was also followed by other issues at the same time, high unemployment and 10% interest rates. He has not lived his remaining days in shame either. So I am unsure to whom your refer. Voters have short term memories and will be voting based on 2023 and 2024 economy. Biden will play that he brought inflation under control. Without any further bad news like a recession, which is still possible, or some "October surprise", he will be very difficult to beat. Biden's job approval rating is also improving and if it continues, that is another bad sign for his opposition. Looking at favorability ratings, the reason Hillary lost and Biden won last time, Trump is hated more than Biden. Hillary lost in 2016 because Trump was more likeable and Trump lost in 2020 because Biden was more likeable, It will be a close race, but looking at the current data, Biden is going to be hard to beat. Jimmy shit the bed a lot, the Iran hostages and failed rescue attempt along with all of his other failures was reason enough to make him a one termer. Biden is worse than him. While I agree Biden is worse, I am looking at the polling and historical elections. That data indicates, without some bad news between now and November 5th 2024, Biden is going to be hard to beat. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2023 9:13:52 GMT -5
I'd sure like to see some examples of this inflation coming down, I sure the hell don't see it at Lowes, the gas pumps, the feed stores, or the grocery stores. I will try to explain how inflation works. if the price of a product was $5 in 2020 and $6 in 2021, inflation was 20% for that period. If it goes to $6.60 the next year inflation is 10%. Now if it goes up 6c the year after inflation has dropped to 1%, the next year another 6c, inflation is still 1%. the product now costs $6.72, but in the last two years inflation was 1% a year and that is good, in spite of what happened before that. Prices do not decrease back to $6 or you are in a recession or worse a depression if it is bad enough. They just don't increase as much. Prices were higher under Trump than Obama, but just slightly. I think inflation was around 1.5% per year during Trump's term. It is easy to find example of inflation coming down. Prices since June of 2022 have not increased as rapidly as they were before that period. The CPI for June was a .2% price increase which would be 2.4% if annualized, the CPI has been falling since June of last year. The previous 12 month CPI is down to 4.8% currently and continuing to decrease. |
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Post by oldbastard on Jul 16, 2023 9:18:37 GMT -5
I'd sure like to see some examples of this inflation coming down, I sure the hell don't see it at Lowes, the gas pumps, the feed stores, or the grocery stores. I will try to explain how inflation works. if the price of a product was $5 in 2020 and $6 in 2021, inflation was 20% for that period. If it goes to $6.60 the next year inflation is 10%. Now if it goes up 6c the year after inflation has dropped to 1%, the next year another 6c, inflation is still 1%. the product now costs $6.72, but in the last two years inflation was 1% a year and that is good, in spite of what happened before that. Prices do not decrease back to $6 or you are in a recession or worse a depression if it is bad enough. They just don't increase as much. Prices were higher under Trump than Obama, but just slightly. I think inflation was around 1.5% per year during Trump's term. It is easy to find example of inflation coming down. Prices since June of 2022 have not increased as rapidly as they were before that period. The CPI for June was a .2% price increase which would be 2.4% if annualized, the CPI has been falling since June of last year. The previous 12 month CPI is down to 4.8% currently and continuing to decrease. Americans only give a fuck about what's in their wallet and bank accounts. When the question starts rising Are you better off now than you were four years ago? The answer is fuck no we're not. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2023 9:38:37 GMT -5
I will try to explain how inflation works. if the price of a product was $5 in 2020 and $6 in 2021, inflation was 20% for that period. If it goes to $6.60 the next year inflation is 10%. Now if it goes up 6c the year after inflation has dropped to 1%, the next year another 6c, inflation is still 1%. the product now costs $6.72, but in the last two years inflation was 1% a year and that is good, in spite of what happened before that. Prices do not decrease back to $6 or you are in a recession or worse a depression if it is bad enough. They just don't increase as much. Prices were higher under Trump than Obama, but just slightly. I think inflation was around 1.5% per year during Trump's term. It is easy to find example of inflation coming down. Prices since June of 2022 have not increased as rapidly as they were before that period. The CPI for June was a .2% price increase which would be 2.4% if annualized, the CPI has been falling since June of last year. The previous 12 month CPI is down to 4.8% currently and continuing to decrease. Americans only give a fuck about what's in their wallet and bank accounts. When the question starts rising Are you better off now than you were four years ago? The answer is fuck no we're not. I disagree with how the voter will answer that next November. It could play today, maybe. But right now wages are increasing and inflation is back down. By next fall, people will see 4 years ago as after Covid and the 2021 inflation. Unless we have a recession, they will feel they are better off than they were in 2020 and 2021, even though there was inflation in 2021. Voter won't look at 2019 or earlier. It just doesn't happen. It is, how are things right now and do I want to change how things are going right this minute. Without a recession or other bad news, voters will not want to make a change. That is how the average voter thinks who isn't party loyal. |
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 16, 2023 15:29:27 GMT -5
U.S. President Joe Biden's 2024 re-election team said on Friday that it and his Democratic Party raised $72 million during the first quarter since the campaign launched, lending firepower to his efforts to seek a second term.
Biden, who launched his campaign on April 25, had $77 million in cash on hand at the end of June across several affiliated fundraising entities and the Democratic Party.
Those funds give him the ability to push out advertisements in politically competitive swing states and start to build out a campaign team ahead of what could be more than a $1 billion campaign and the most expensive race in history.
The campaign said the second-quarter donations came from 394,000 donors and that 30% were new contributors since the 2020 campaign.
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Post by conchydong on Jul 16, 2023 15:33:42 GMT -5
I’m sure sleepy has a treasure chest full of money from the people who want to destroy America. Wake up and figure it out.
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 16, 2023 15:51:42 GMT -5
If anyone believes that a senile 80 year old with clearly visible dementia can win a FAIR and HONEST election, then you are way past delusional. Never mind that one child basically accused him of pedophilia, the other crack head child apparently still lives at home, and there's only about 10,000 pieces of hard evidence suggesting the bastard dear leader took millions in bribes from China, Russia, Ukraine...etc, etc.
In a real world, Brandon would be in an ALF, or prison.
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Post by skunkdog on Jul 16, 2023 16:06:54 GMT -5
If anyone believes that a senile 80 year old with clearly visible dementia can win a FAIR and HONEST election, then you are way past delusional. Never mind that one child basically accused him of pedophilia, the other crack head child apparently still lives at home, and there's only about 10,000 pieces of hard evidence suggesting the bastard dear leader took millions in bribes from China, Russia, Ukraine...etc, etc. In a real world, Brandon would be in an ALF, or prison. His other boy died fighting the Taliban in Iraq |
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 16, 2023 16:22:15 GMT -5
I’m sure sleepy has a treasure chest full of money from the people who want to destroy America. Wake up and figure it out. Probably in some Delaware’s garage 😏 |
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2023 17:10:10 GMT -5
If anyone believes that a senile 80 year old with clearly visible dementia can win a FAIR and HONEST election, then you are way past delusional. Never mind that one child basically accused him of pedophilia, the other crack head child apparently still lives at home, and there's only about 10,000 pieces of hard evidence suggesting the bastard dear leader took millions in bribes from China, Russia, Ukraine...etc, etc. In a real world, Brandon would be in an ALF, or prison. Trump will be 78 if he wins, or when he goes to prison for trying to overthrow America's government through violence. He's much more addled than Biden ever was. I'd like to see his fat ass try to ride a bike, considering he needs two hands to drink a glass of water. But I know, I know, every time he says some crazy shit the cultists just say he was kidding, or misunderstood, or they just didn't see it. But they just never seem to tire of fellating him |
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 16, 2023 17:21:52 GMT -5
If anyone believes that a senile 80 year old with clearly visible dementia can win a FAIR and HONEST election, then you are way past delusional. Never mind that one child basically accused him of pedophilia, the other crack head child apparently still lives at home, and there's only about 10,000 pieces of hard evidence suggesting the bastard dear leader took millions in bribes from China, Russia, Ukraine...etc, etc. In a real world, Brandon would be in an ALF, or prison. Trump will be 78 if he wins, or when he goes to prison for trying to overthrow America's government through violence. He's much more addled than Biden ever was. I'd like to see his fat ass try to ride a bike, considering he needs two hands to drink a glass of water. But I know, I know, every time he says some crazy shit the cultists just say he was kidding, or misunderstood, or they just didn't see it. But they just never seem to tire of fellating him I'm no fan of Trump. As an American, you should be deeply troubled that the potential next leader of the free world cannot currently formulate a coherent sentence. And if victorious, it will be a certainty that the fix was in, again. |
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2023 17:25:48 GMT -5
Trump will be 78 if he wins, or when he goes to prison for trying to overthrow America's government through violence. He's much more addled than Biden ever was. I'd like to see his fat ass try to ride a bike, considering he needs two hands to drink a glass of water. But I know, I know, every time he says some crazy shit the cultists just say he was kidding, or misunderstood, or they just didn't see it. But they just never seem to tire of fellating him I'm no fan of Trump. As an American, you should be deeply troubled that the potential next leader of the free world cannot currently formulate a coherent sentence. And if victorious, it will be a certainty that the fix was in, again. I'm not going to dump a guy who can win just because, so some fascist nutjob can take his place. Though I would love to hear some facts of this fix you speak of last time around. Anything new, or just the same debunked stuff? Got Durham? |
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 16, 2023 17:38:41 GMT -5
I'm no fan of Trump. As an American, you should be deeply troubled that the potential next leader of the free world cannot currently formulate a coherent sentence. And if victorious, it will be a certainty that the fix was in, again. I'm not going to dump a guy who can win just because, so some fascist nutjob can take his place. Though I would love to hear some facts of this fix you speak of last time around. Anything new, or just the same debunked stuff? Got Durham? I'm not going to argue about the obvious. But, get rid of early voting except for overseas military, get rid of voting machines like Dominion, go to a straight paper ballot in all 50 states, make ballot harvesting a felony, and let's see who wins. |
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 16, 2023 17:42:30 GMT -5
I'm not going to dump a guy who can win just because, so some fascist nutjob can take his place. Though I would love to hear some facts of this fix you speak of last time around. Anything new, or just the same debunked stuff? Got Durham? I'm not going to argue about the obvious. But, get rid of early voting except for overseas military, get rid of voting machines like Dominion, go to a straight paper ballot in all 50 states, make ballot harvesting a felony, and let's see who wins. So make it harder and inconvenient? I’m down for your restrictions but Election Day should be a national holiday and showing up to the polls should be mandatory. Not a fan of Australia but I like their voting laws. |
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 16, 2023 18:49:09 GMT -5
If you can’t win on your ideas, make it harder to vote, amirite
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2023 18:52:13 GMT -5
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 16, 2023 19:46:57 GMT -5
If you can’t win on your ideas, make it harder to vote, amirite I think you meant to say harder to cheat and commit fraud. Which is exactly what democrats have done. Can't win on ideas, so now they just rig the elections in a few key spots where they can get away with it. Like "finding" 700,000 votes in Philly in the middle of the night. |
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 16, 2023 20:23:12 GMT -5
Of all the things that never happened that never happened the most
But what ever helps you get through the day
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2023 20:29:59 GMT -5
If you can’t win on your ideas, make it harder to vote, amirite I think you meant to say harder to cheat and commit fraud. Which is exactly what democrats have done. Can't win on ideas, so now they just rig the elections in a few key spots where they can get away with it. Like "finding" 700,000 votes in Philly in the middle of the night. You're too smart to really believe that. I'd love to see your source for that claim. |
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Post by Captj on Jul 16, 2023 20:33:43 GMT -5
I would call 80 million votes the biggest, most beautiful, most fantastic, and the best ever case of vote rigging. C'mon, are all those Trump appointed judges who ruled against him in his spurious pursuit of election victory mistaken on the facts as presented? Maybe his appeals from jail will be more productive. It would be something to see if Pence won the election and was given the opportunity to pardon Trump. How do you think that would work out?
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 16, 2023 21:16:11 GMT -5
I think you meant to say harder to cheat and commit fraud. Which is exactly what democrats have done. Can't win on ideas, so now they just rig the elections in a few key spots where they can get away with it. Like "finding" 700,000 votes in Philly in the middle of the night. You're too smart to really believe that. I'd love to see your source for that claim. BT, my friend, I personally watched the election returns on election nIght from 7ish pm until well past midnight. I studied the slow roll carefully across the bottom of the screen where vote tallies inched up through the night, just like always. Trump had a substantial lead in votes in Pennsylvania throughout the evening. Then, the vote swung 700K in Biden's favor in literal seconds. I saw it with my own eyes. How does that happen? And 100% of the 700K votes all go to Biden. Then a toilet leaked in a bathroom in Atlanta, so they had to stop counting for the night and send everyone home. Tens of thousands of mail in ballots in Nevada had signatures not verified at all. This is what was on TV that the left wing MSM reported!!!!! I find it impossible to believe that a person who didn't even campaign, nor leave his basement, got 15 million more votes than Obama. |
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