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Post by bridgeman213 on Jul 13, 2023 18:18:33 GMT -5
Doesn't make any difference who's calling the shots the other side will always have a beef with the decisions. Entitlement programs are having a detrimental effect on this nation, able bodied peeps are getting by reaping the benifits of the free for free free free practices of those on charge. It's gotta end or we'll just keep spiraling downward. Gotta cut the freebies and tell em to work for a living or starve. Cold hearted ain't it??
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Post by OhMy on Jul 13, 2023 20:11:30 GMT -5
Curious as to how inflation is Biden's fault, and what the R's have proposed to bring it down. And why the post-pandemic inflation is a world-wide phenomenon.
It is called American Rescue Plan. Print free money, inflation goes sky high. Also, it is worldwide because they followed America's lead and locked people down and gave away free money. Did you watch the NATO summit with all of those same leaders face to face? I guess Covid just disappeared. Let me guess Nuevo, you thought the unvaccinated were going to end humanity as we knew it like BT did? Follow those sheep right into that slaughter house. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 13, 2023 21:54:52 GMT -5
I guess you forgot the $2.2 trillion dollars cares act 9 months before or the PPP program or the $900 billion stimulus 2 months prior under the previous administration. I am sure that $4 trillion in free money had nothing to do with inflation. It was all due to the final $1.9 trillion in the American Relief Act.
My guess is all of these plus people finally getting out and spending the free money after Covid before the closed-down manufacturing around the world could catch up.
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 14, 2023 2:11:03 GMT -5
I want to ask a serious question to the Democrats here. Do you honestly think that Joe is running the government? I sincerely hope he's him who drives. Otherwise I can't explain how people in their rights mind can produce so many disasters in so few time... |
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Post by cadman on Jul 14, 2023 9:08:09 GMT -5
I want to ask a serious question to the Democrats here. Do you honestly think that Joe is running the government? I sincerely hope he's him who drives. Otherwise I can't explain how people in their rights mind can produce so many disasters in so few time... One man's disaster is another man's opportunity. Could you list the many disasters that Biden has produced. Not saying he has done a great job, but I do ntot see any real disasters yet, Economy is humming along after a bout with inflation that he is partially responsible for, but not entirely. Unemployment is low, wages are rising, Russia looks like a 3rd world economy. He is weak on illegal immigrants, but it isn't a disaster. I just read where Trump's Mar-A-Largo along with other hospitality employers have filed for a record number of temporary foreign work visas. Apparently, even Trump knows we need more immigrants in the U.S.. Please name the disasters he has caused. I think Biden may have some mental deterioration that will get worse. Did not vote for him and will not vote for him. Did not vote for Trump, will not vote for Trump. I was hoping Jeb Bush or Gingrich was the guy in 2016. But disaster is a strong word and I want to know what you call disasters looking at the events of today. Currently, Trump better pray for a recession mid year 2024 if he wants to have any chance of winning. I think a younger Republican needs to be the challenger. |
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 14, 2023 9:14:13 GMT -5
If you need the list of the disasters it means it doesn't exist a list that can convince you.
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Post by cadman on Jul 14, 2023 9:29:38 GMT -5
If you need the list of the disasters it means it doesn't exist a list that can convince you. You have a bad habit of making these outrageous claims and never supporting them with any facts. You made claims of provocations and abuses taken by Ukraine that brought the war. I asked to to state them and you can't name a one. You claim the government created disasters, I asked you to name them, you can't name a one. All you can do is bitch about America and offer no evidence of why you bitch other than vague meaningless BS. I will ask again. What provocations did Ukraine take to bring on this war? What are the disaster created by the current administration? Do I get answers or BS? |
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 14, 2023 10:05:10 GMT -5
If you actually have no awareness of the disasters they did, as I said, a list that can convince you doesn't exist. If you don't see the obvious a list won't help (when a wise man points at the moon, the fool looks at his finger).
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Post by cadman on Jul 14, 2023 10:58:07 GMT -5
If you actually have no awareness of the disasters they did, as I said, a list that can convince you doesn't exist. If you don't see the obvious a list won't help ( when a wise man points at the moon, the fool looks at his finger). All I see is you have no real data to share, all you have is talking points without substance. I ask for examples and you avoid the question. |
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Jul 14, 2023 11:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 14, 2023 11:41:23 GMT -5
Cad has a innate problem seeing the obvious without a cookie trail to lead him there.  I'm also guilty of not showing my hand to the casual observer but it's because I don't have time and patience to show people something they flat refuse to see. Not to mention you learn more when you do the actual work yourself. |
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Jul 14, 2023 13:04:24 GMT -5
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 14, 2023 13:04:24 GMT -5
If you actually have no awareness of the disasters they did, as I said, a list that can convince you doesn't exist. If you don't see the obvious a list won't help ( when a wise man points at the moon, the fool looks at his finger). All I see is you have no real data to share, all you have is talking points without substance. I ask for examples and you avoid the question. I could start from covid scam and finish with Ukraine proxy war but it would be totally useless. In your mind they did everything well while a huge side of the world think they did only (or mainly) disasters. Even most Americans are between who think this, considering that in a thread posted by a member very far from my vision the topic is “democracy failure”… |
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Jul 14, 2023 13:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 14, 2023 13:06:34 GMT -5
Cad has a innate problem seeing the obvious without a cookie trail to lead him there. I'm also guilty of not showing my hand to the casual observer but it's because I don't have time and patience to show people something they flat refuse to see. Not to mention you learn more when you do the actual work yourself. Exactly 😉 |
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Post by cyclist on Jul 14, 2023 14:39:11 GMT -5
If you actually have no awareness of the disasters they did, as I said, a list that can convince you doesn't exist. If you don't see the obvious a list won't help ( when a wise man points at the moon, the fool looks at his finger). All I see is you have no real data to share, all you have is talking points without substance. I ask for examples and you avoid the question. Hi Cad! I agree, but fascism is all the rage in Italy now.
By the way, whats the inflation rate in Italy versus US?
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Post by throttle on Jul 15, 2023 1:08:02 GMT -5
Bidenomics is just another way of saying restoring the American dream after 40 years of trickle-down limited that dream to those at the top. Please provide a link to anyone ever advocating "trickle-down". Is it the same as JFK's rising tide floating all boats? Or something commie libs just made up... |
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Post by throttle on Jul 15, 2023 1:30:46 GMT -5
Curious as to how inflation is Biden's fault, and what the R's have proposed to bring it down. And why the post-pandemic inflation is a world-wide phenomenon.
The whole world followed China's lead on how to deal with covid: lockdowns and shutdowns. Producing less goods made the world poorer and drove up the price of everything. Not following China's lead was always an alternative, but that didn't happen. Yes, that was Biden's fault, or his handlers, because we could have NOT locked down and allowed people to make their own risk assessments. Most people were not at risk and that was obvious from the beginning, but our governments, fed and blue states, shut down everything anyway. Who will face consequences for the abysmal government response to covid? People lost their homes, businesses, and their life savings to incompetent CYA government response. And when it was clear to everyone that shutdowns weren't working, that masks weren't working, that the vaccines weren't weren't working, government stuck to their mandates rather than admitting that they'd F'd up. |
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 15, 2023 5:13:24 GMT -5
Curious as to how inflation is Biden's fault, and what the R's have proposed to bring it down. And why the post-pandemic inflation is a world-wide phenomenon.
The whole world followed China's lead on how to deal with covid: lockdowns and shutdowns. Producing less goods made the world poorer and drove up the price of everything. Not following China's lead was always an alternative, but that didn't happen. Yes, that was Biden's fault, or his handlers, because we could have NOT locked down and allowed people to make their own risk assessments. Most people were not at risk and that was obvious from the beginning, but our governments, fed and blue states, shut down everything anyway. Who will face consequences for the abysmal government response to covid? People lost their homes, businesses, and their life savings to incompetent CYA government response. And when it was clear to everyone that shutdowns weren't working, that masks weren't working, that the vaccines weren't weren't working, government stuck to their mandates rather than admitting that they'd F'd up. Chinese have placed the trap and their buddies worldwide followed immediately them destroying meantime anyone who tried to protest, in perfect Chinese style. At the end they have the same goal, control the people and took their freedom (in fact all the covid rules have been the first step toward the western-style social credit system). |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 8:44:06 GMT -5
Curious as to how inflation is Biden's fault, and what the R's have proposed to bring it down. And why the post-pandemic inflation is a world-wide phenomenon.
The whole world followed China's lead on how to deal with covid: lockdowns and shutdowns. Producing less goods made the world poorer and drove up the price of everything. Not following China's lead was always an alternative, but that didn't happen. Yes, that was Biden's fault, or his handlers, because we could have NOT locked down and allowed people to make their own risk assessments. Most people were not at risk and that was obvious from the beginning, but our governments, fed and blue states, shut down everything anyway. Who will face consequences for the abysmal government response to covid? People lost their homes, businesses, and their life savings to incompetent CYA government response. And when it was clear to everyone that shutdowns weren't working, that masks weren't working, that the vaccines weren't weren't working, government stuck to their mandates rather than admitting that they'd F'd up. Uhmmm, the lockdowns were in 2020, not 2021. Biden was not President at that time. If you blame the lockdowns for the inflation, then that was Trumps fault. Actually, the governors of each state are really responsible since they went further than Trump on lockdowns. Some governors were worse than thers about shutting everything down for longer periods. But, by the time biden was in office, the lockdowns were over and we were debating Vaccines. I think Trump's response was the correct one at the time. It was the only choice to save lives. Without the lockdowns, it is entirely possible hospitals would have had more sick then they could handle and more lives would have been lost. DeSantis also handled the crisis fairly well. Too bad he went on a woke agenda after that, he might have rode his covid response all the way to the Whitehouse. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 8:46:02 GMT -5
Chinese have placed the trap and their buddies worldwide followed immediately them destroying meantime anyone who tried to protest, in perfect Chinese style. At the end they have the same goal, control the people and took their freedom (in fact all the covid rules have been the first step toward the western-style social credit system). Again, that was in 2020 under Trump. Please keep the Presidents straight. |
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 15, 2023 9:29:19 GMT -5
Chinese have placed the trap and their buddies worldwide followed immediately them destroying meantime anyone who tried to protest, in perfect Chinese style. At the end they have the same goal, control the people and took their freedom (in fact all the covid rules have been the first step toward the western-style social credit system). Again, that was in 2020 under Trump. Please keep the Presidents straight. Were lockdowns federal? I remember only the travel ban as federal, but lockdowns were by state. But I could be wrong. Anyway Trump was surrounded by Brandon’s buddies (Fauci, CDC, WHO, UN, etc.) who were in charge and executive on everything about the s.c. pandemic. And Trump was against lockdowns ( pretty clearly). Anyway my point is not politically driven, I blame everyone who followed (dumbs or buddies? Who knows?) the Chinese covid agenda (including a lot of right wing governments, like UK and others) and who have rode the crisis worsening the worst, reaching the peak of abomination with the vaccines scam. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 9:57:08 GMT -5
Again, that was in 2020 under Trump. Please keep the Presidents straight. Were lockdowns federal? I remember only the travel ban as federal, but lockdowns were by state. But I could be wrong. Anyway Trump was surrounded by Brandon’s buddies (Fauci, CDC, WHO, UN, etc.) who were in charge and executive on everything about the s.c. pandemic. And Trump was against lockdowns ( pretty clearly). Anyway my point is not politically driven, I blame everyone who followed (dumbs or buddies? Who knows?) the Chinese covid agenda (including a lot of right wing governments, like UK and others) and who have rode the crisis worsening the worst, reaching the peak of abomination with the vaccines scam. Trump was President and in charge. He could have ignored the advice if he thought it wrong. Now you are claiming he was just a pawn without any without authority to do anything, but "Biden's buddies" ran the country then. Makes Trump sound weak and ineffective, why support a weak man. i guess since Trump wasn't running things, we can't give him credit for the economy under his leadership either, mut have been "Biden's buddies". On March 19th Trump told everyone to work at home, avoid all unnecessary travel and avoid all social gatherings. He basically shutdown the economy with that statement. It was supposed to be short term. He said the country would re-open by Easter, but that did not happen. Trump was in favor of the lockdowns at that time. It was later on he changed his opinion due to the negative view the lockdowns got and how long they were lasting. Trump wanted to reopen the economy faster than most governors did. I think it was around May or June he encouraged the states to reopen and many did. Some remained in lockdown, which was when Trump was now against it. The lockdowns from March to June were the proper course of action and nobody followed China. It was a new unknown virus with deadly potential at the time. To avoid over running the health care establishments, we had to slow down infections as much as possible early on. The lockdowns saved lives. As treatments evolved and the virus mutated to less deadly strains, like the current version, lockdowns became unneeded and life resumed to normal and hospitals could have the sick. Your opinion is clearly political driven in as much as you want to portray Trump as always right and anything negative under his watch was somehow not under his control. That is about as political as it can get. |
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 15, 2023 10:06:36 GMT -5
Trump: ‘We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem’ Jill Colvin, Josh Boak And Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar Associated Press Published: March 23, 2020 at 5:02 PM Updated: March 24, 2020 at 7:24 AM Tags: Kevin Hassett, Barack Obama, Larry Kudlow, Donald Trump, Health, Anthony Fauci, Lindsey Graham, Government, Business, Michael Pence, Austan Goolsbee, Politics Facebook Twitter Email Show More WASHINGTON, D.C. – As cases of coronavirus rise, President Donald Trump said that he wants to reopen the country for business in weeks, not months, and claimed, without evidence, that continued closures could result in more deaths than the pandemic itself. "We can’t have the cure be worse than the problem," Trump told reporters at a briefing Monday, echoing a midnight Sunday tweet. “We have to open our country because that causes problems that, in my opinion, could be far bigger problems."
www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/03/23/trumps-dilemma-how-to-protect-both-health-and-economy/ |
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Post by skunkdog on Jul 15, 2023 10:24:24 GMT -5
Were lockdowns federal? I remember only the travel ban as federal, but lockdowns were by state. But I could be wrong. Anyway Trump was surrounded by Brandon’s buddies (Fauci, CDC, WHO, UN, etc.) who were in charge and executive on everything about the s.c. pandemic. And Trump was against lockdowns ( pretty clearly). Anyway my point is not politically driven, I blame everyone who followed (dumbs or buddies? Who knows?) the Chinese covid agenda (including a lot of right wing governments, like UK and others) and who have rode the crisis worsening the worst, reaching the peak of abomination with the vaccines scam. Trump was President and in charge. He could have ignored the advice if he thought it wrong. Now you are claiming he was just a pawn without any without authority to do anything, but "Biden's buddies" ran the country then. Makes Trump sound weak and ineffective, why support a weak man. i guess since Trump wasn't running things, we can't give him credit for the economy under his leadership either, mut have been "Biden's buddies". On March 19th Trump told everyone to work at home, avoid all unnecessary travel and avoid all social gatherings. He basically shutdown the economy with that statement. It was supposed to be short term. He said the country would re-open by Easter, but that did not happen. Trump was in favor of the lockdowns at that time. It was later on he changed his opinion due to the negative view the lockdowns got and how long they were lasting. Trump wanted to reopen the economy faster than most governors did. I think it was around May or June he encouraged the states to reopen and many did. Some remained in lockdown, which was when Trump was now against it. The lockdowns from March to June were the proper course of action and nobody followed China. It was a new unknown virus with deadly potential at the time. To avoid over running the health care establishments, we had to slow down infections as much as possible early on. The lockdowns saved lives. As treatments evolved and the virus mutated to less deadly strains, like the current version, lockdowns became unneeded and life resumed to normal and hospitals could have the sick. Your opinion is clearly political driven in as much as you want to portray Trump as always right and anything negative under his watch was somehow not under his control. That is about as political as it can get. Exactly, now the retard is President and everything is much worse than it's ever been. This is his baby, and only his. You cannot say that fuel and fertilizer prices are not his fault. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 12:23:06 GMT -5
Trump: ‘We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem’ Jill Colvin, Josh Boak And Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar Associated Press Published: March 23, 2020 at 5:02 PM Updated: March 24, 2020 at 7:24 AM Tags: Kevin Hassett, Barack Obama, Larry Kudlow, Donald Trump, Health, Anthony Fauci, Lindsey Graham, Government, Business, Michael Pence, Austan Goolsbee, Politics Facebook Twitter Email Show More WASHINGTON, D.C. – As cases of coronavirus rise, President Donald Trump said that he wants to reopen the country for business in weeks, not months, and claimed, without evidence, that continued closures could result in more deaths than the pandemic itself. "We can’t have the cure be worse than the problem," Trump told reporters at a briefing Monday, echoing a midnight Sunday tweet. “We have to open our country because that causes problems that, in my opinion, could be far bigger problems."
www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/03/23/trumps-dilemma-how-to-protect-both-health-and-economy/Yet later on he said he wished it could reopen by Easter “I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go,” Trump said during a Fox News town hall broadcast from the White House Rose Garden. The holiday falls on April 12. Then later in April, he was shooting for May www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-task-force-trump-guidelines-economy-reopening-thursday/You confuse his political rhetoric for the reality of the decisions he made. He had a great economy before Covid. shutting it down caused a recession and was bad politically. Trump had to play that he was against it so he would not get the blame with an election coming up. He was trying to play it as someone else's fault, not his, but he ordered that people work at home, avoid unnecessary trips and social gatherings. He took the first steps to shut down the economy. Trying to shift the blame was a strategy he employed often when his decisions had a negative aspect to them even if they were the correct one at the time. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2023 12:29:50 GMT -5
Trump was President and in charge. He could have ignored the advice if he thought it wrong. Now you are claiming he was just a pawn without any without authority to do anything, but "Biden's buddies" ran the country then. Makes Trump sound weak and ineffective, why support a weak man. i guess since Trump wasn't running things, we can't give him credit for the economy under his leadership either, mut have been "Biden's buddies". On March 19th Trump told everyone to work at home, avoid all unnecessary travel and avoid all social gatherings. He basically shutdown the economy with that statement. It was supposed to be short term. He said the country would re-open by Easter, but that did not happen. Trump was in favor of the lockdowns at that time. It was later on he changed his opinion due to the negative view the lockdowns got and how long they were lasting. Trump wanted to reopen the economy faster than most governors did. I think it was around May or June he encouraged the states to reopen and many did. Some remained in lockdown, which was when Trump was now against it. The lockdowns from March to June were the proper course of action and nobody followed China. It was a new unknown virus with deadly potential at the time. To avoid over running the health care establishments, we had to slow down infections as much as possible early on. The lockdowns saved lives. As treatments evolved and the virus mutated to less deadly strains, like the current version, lockdowns became unneeded and life resumed to normal and hospitals could have the sick. Your opinion is clearly political driven in as much as you want to portray Trump as always right and anything negative under his watch was somehow not under his control. That is about as political as it can get. Exactly, now the retard is President and everything is much worse than it's ever been. This is his baby, and only his. You cannot say that fuel and fertilizer prices are not his fault. You are correct, this is his baby and if you don't want four more years of the retard, you better hope for a recession next year. This "baby" will get him re-elected. |
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Post by skunkdog on Jul 15, 2023 13:09:25 GMT -5
You are correct, this is his baby and if you don't want four more years of the retard, you better hope for a recession next year. This "baby" will get him re-elected. Inflation like this normally means one term and living in shame your remaining days |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 15, 2023 13:29:13 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Tee-rump was reluctant to shut down and fall into lock step with the rest of the world and it totally chaffed the asses of his advisors, Faucis regime, the rest of the compliant world order globalists, and particularly some of the left leaning libs on this forum. They all were calling for his head because he didn't shut down. The then they further lambasted him because he didn't shut down quick enough,
The guy literally fought a uphill battle from the day he announced his candidacy. Now he is still the big Covid culprit to point the global finger at, and by proxy he is the big bad wolf for a retarded economy.
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Post by BallaCoiPersici on Jul 15, 2023 13:51:07 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Tee-rump was reluctant to shut down and fall into lock step with the rest of the world and it totally chaffed the asses of his advisors, Faucis regime, the rest of the compliant world order globalists, and particularly some of the left leaning libs on this forum. They all were calling for his head because he didn't shut down. The then they further lambasted him because he didn't shut down quick enough, The guy literally fought an uphill battle from the day he announced his candidacy. Now he is still the big Covid culprit to point the global finger at, and by proxy he is the big bad wolf for a retarded economy. I remember exactly the same. Probably we and them live in a different dimension. The point is understanding who lives permanently in BS dimension 🤣 |
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 15, 2023 14:03:12 GMT -5
Poor Donald , will never get the credit he deserves. The “man”was out to get him. Can’t believe some of you limited government right wingers are playing the victim card.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 15, 2023 14:37:15 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Tee-rump was reluctant to shut down and fall into lock step with the rest of the world and it totally chaffed the asses of his advisors, Faucis regime, the rest of the compliant world order globalists, and particularly some of the left leaning libs on this forum. They all were calling for his head because he didn't shut down. The then they further lambasted him because he didn't shut down quick enough, The guy literally fought an uphill battle from the day he announced his candidacy. Now he is still the big Covid culprit to point the global finger at, and by proxy he is the big bad wolf for a retarded economy. I remember exactly the same. Probably we and them live in a different dimension. The point is understanding who lives permanently in BS dimension 🤣 I've been saying this for a long time, and you've been proving it true often, but at least I can read a calendar. |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 15, 2023 15:19:19 GMT -5
Lmfao... believing Tee-rump was given a fair shake and got all the rope and opportunities to do what needed to be done is about as rich as actually believing the crowd was cheering, "Let's go Brandon!"
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