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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 8, 2024 16:02:08 GMT -5
I never said she was unintelligent. She is a flake you can be intelligent and be a flake. What, specifically are you referring to?
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 8, 2024 16:03:33 GMT -5
I never said she was unintelligent. She is a flake you can be intelligent and be a flake. Oh, and you did bring up intelligence.
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Post by conchydong on Mar 8, 2024 16:17:01 GMT -5
Ok I didn’t express myself clearly on that. You win. She was given the assignment to fix the border issue and she basically did nothing. When she speaks she just throws out a word salad that often makes no sense at all. I just don’t have any confidence in her ability at all.
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Post by cyclist on Mar 8, 2024 16:24:08 GMT -5
Ok I didn’t express myself clearly on that. You win. She was given the assignment to fix the border issue and she basically did nothing. When she speaks she just throws out a word salad that often makes no sense at all. I just don’t have any confidence in her ability at all. You do know its congresses job. Their approval record is horrible because all they wanna do is bloviate.
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Post by conchydong on Mar 8, 2024 16:26:42 GMT -5
If it is Congress’s job, then why did Joe Biden appoint her to “fix the border“ when he was first selected
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Post by cyclist on Mar 8, 2024 17:07:52 GMT -5
If it is Congress’s job, then why did Joe Biden appoint her to “fix the border“ when he was first selected She was appointed spear head the effort and negotiations in congress, but once trump said no deal his sycophants bid his wishes and shut down the talks. Maybe she was not the person for the job, or maybe no magas want a deal under Biden. A long time dud pass before anything happened.
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Post by luapnor on Mar 8, 2024 18:30:09 GMT -5
Ok I didn’t express myself clearly on that. You win. She was given the assignment to fix the border issue and she basically did nothing. When she speaks she just throws out a word salad that often makes no sense at all. I just don’t have any confidence in her ability at all. You do know its congresses job. Their approval record is horrible because all they wanna do is bloviate. Maybe you could reference the paragraph in the Constitution that grants Congress the power or authority to protect the border? Under the Constitution, the authority to protect the United States lies with the president. I know you dont like the Constitution but you wont burst into flames if you look at it... so please, post the paragraph.
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 8, 2024 19:09:51 GMT -5
Longest stretch of <4% unemployment since Nixon's first year in office. That's right: we haven't had that spirit here since 1969
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Post by cyclist on Mar 8, 2024 19:19:54 GMT -5
You do know its congresses job. Their approval record is horrible because all they wanna do is bloviate. Maybe you could reference the paragraph in the Constitution that grants Congress the power or authority to protect the border? Under the Constitution, the authority to protect the United States lies with the president. I know you dont like the Constitution but you wont burst into flames if you look at it... so please, post the paragraph. Constitution Annotated open nav Examples: "due process", search AND warrant, "First Amendment" Home > Browse the Constitution Annotated > Article I—Legislative Branch > Section 8—Enumerated Powers > Clause 18—Necessary and Proper Clause > ArtI.S8.C18.8 Immigration > ArtI.S8.C18.8.1 Overview of Congress's Immigration Powers ArtI.S8.C18.7.10 Congress's Investigatory Powers and the President ArtI.S8.C18.8.2 English Common Law on Immigration ArtI.S8.C18.8.1 Overview of Congress's Immigration Powers Article I, Section 8, Clause 18: [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof. Long-standing Supreme Court precedent recognizes Congress as having plenary power over immigration, giving it almost complete authority to decide whether foreign nationals (aliens, under governing statutes and case law) may enter or remain in the United States.1 But while Congress’s power over immigration is well established, defining its constitutional underpinnings is more difficult. The Constitution does not mention immigration, but parts of the Constitution address related subjects. The Supreme Court has sometimes relied upon Congress’s powers over naturalization (the term and conditions in which an alien becomes a U.S. citizen),2 foreign commerce,3 and, to a lesser extent, upon the Executive Branch’s implied Article II foreign affairs power,4 as sources of federal immigration power.5 While these powers continue to be cited as supporting the immigration power, since the late nineteenth century, the Supreme Court has described the power as flowing from the Constitution’s establishment of a federal government.6 The United States government possesses all the powers incident to a sovereign, including unqualified authority over the Nation’s borders and the ability to determine whether foreign nationals may come within its territory.7 The Supreme Court has generally assigned the constitutional power to regulate immigration to Congress, with executive authority mainly derived from congressional delegations of authority.8 In exercising its power over immigration, Congress can make laws concerning aliens that would be unconstitutional if applied to citizens.9 The Supreme Court has interpreted that power to apply with most force to the admission and exclusion of nonresident aliens abroad seeking to enter the United States.10 The Court has further upheld laws excluding aliens from entry on the basis of ethnicity,11 gender and legitimacy,12 and political belief.13 It has also upheld an Executive Branch exclusion policy, premised on a broad statutory delegation of authority, that some evidence suggested was motivated by religious animus.14 But the immigration power has proven less than absolute when directed at aliens already physically present within the United States.15 Even so, the Supreme Court’s jurisprudence reflects that Congress retains broad power to regulate immigration and that the Court will accord substantial deference to the government’s immigration policies, particularly those that implicate matters of national security. Topics Immigration and Naturalization Footnotes Jump to essay-1Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753, 766 (1972) (The Court without exception has sustained Congress’s ‘plenary power to make rules for the admission of aliens and to exclude those who possess those characteristics which Congress has forbidden.’) (quoting Boutilier v. Immigration & Naturalization Serv., 387 U.S. 118, 123 (1967)); Oceanic Steam Navigation Co. v. Stranahan, 214 U.S. 320, 343 (1909) (noting the plenary power of Congress as to the admission of aliens and the complete and absolute power of Congress over the subject of immigration); see also Galvan v. Press, 347 U.S. 522, 531 (1954) (Policies pertaining to the entry of aliens and their right to remain here are peculiarly concerned with the political conduct of government. . . . But that the formulation of these policies is entrusted exclusively to Congress has become about as firmly imbedded in the legislative and judicial tissues of our body politic as any aspect of our government.). Jump to essay-2See U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cl. 4 (Naturalization Clause); Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387, 394–95 (2012); Immigration & Naturalization Serv. v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919, 940 (1983); but see Arizona, 567 U.S. at 422 (Scalia, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part) (I accept [federal immigration law] as a valid exercise of federal power—not because of the Naturalization Clause (it has no necessary connection to citizenship)). Jump to essay-3See U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cl. 3 (Foreign Commerce Clause); Toll v. Moreno, 458 U.S. 1, 10 (1982); United States ex rel. Turner v. Williams, 194 U.S. 279, 290 (1904) (citing Foreign Commerce Clause as a source of immigration power). Jump to essay-4See United States ex rel. Knauff v. Shaughnessy, 338 U.S. 537, 542 (1950) (relying on foreign affairs power as source of executive power to exclude aliens). Jump to essay-5Discussions of the source of congressional immigration power sometimes also mention the power to declare war, U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cl. 11, and the Migration and Importation Clause, id. § 9, cl. 1; which barred Congress from outlawing the slave trade before 1808. See Michael Scaperlanda, Partial Membership: Aliens and the Constitutional Community, 81 Iowa L. Rev. 707, 726 n.95 (1996). Jump to essay-6Ping v. United States, 130 U.S. 581, 609 (1889) (upholding law that prohibited the return to the United States of Chinese laborers who had been issued, before their departure from the United States and under a prior law, certificates entitling them to return, and recognizing [t]he power of exclusion of foreigners as an incident of sovereignty belonging to the government of the United States as a part of those sovereign powers delegated by the constitution). Jump to essay-7See Trump v. Hawaii, No. 17-965, slip op. at 30 (U.S. June 26, 2018) (For more than a century, this Court has recognized that the admission and exclusion of foreign nationals is a ‘fundamental sovereign attribute exercised by the Government’s political departments.’) (quoting Fiallo v. Bell, 430 U.S. 787, 792 (1977)); Landon v. Plasencia, 459 U.S. 21, 32 (1982) ([T]he power to admit or exclude aliens is a sovereign prerogative.); Mandel, 408 U.S. at 765 (relying upon ancient principles of the international law of nation-states); Harisiades v. Shaughnessy, 342 U.S. 580, 588–89 (1952) (the traditional power of the Nation over the alien is a power inherent in every sovereign state); Nishimura Ekiu v. United States, 142 U.S. 651, 659 (1892) (It is an accepted maxim of international law that every sovereign nation has the power, as inherent in sovereignty, and essential to self-preservation, to forbid the entrance of foreigners within its dominions, or to admit them only in such cases and upon such conditions as it may see fit to prescribe.); see also Arizona, 567 U.S. at 394–95 (relying upon the Naturalization Clause and the inherent power as sovereign to control and conduct relations with foreign nations); Ex rel. Turner, 194 U.S. at 290 (relying on the accepted principle of international law, that every sovereign nation has the power, as inherent in sovereignty and essential to self-preservation, to forbid the entrance of foreigners within its dominions, and upon the foreign commerce power). Jump to essay-8See Galvan v. Press, 347 U.S. 522, 530 (1954) (Policies pertaining to the entry of aliens and their right to remain here are peculiarly concerned with the political conduct of government. In the enforcement of these policies, the Executive Branch of the Government must respect the procedural safeguards of due process. But that the formulation of these policies is entrusted exclusively to Congress has become about as firmly imbedded in the legislative and judicial tissues of our body politic as any aspect of our government.) (internal citations omitted). Jump to essay-9Demore v. Kim, 538 U.S. 510, 522 (2003) ([T]his Court has firmly and repeatedly endorsed the proposition that Congress may make rules as to aliens that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens.). Jump to essay-10See Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 693, 695–96 (2001) (noting that the distinction between an alien who has effected an entry into the United States and one who has never entered runs throughout immigration law and equating the political branches’ authority to control entry with the Nation’s armor); Fiallo, 430 U.S. at 792; Jean v. Nelson, 472 U.S. 846, 875 (1985) (Marshall, J., dissenting) (declaring that it is in the narrow area of entry decisions that the Government’s interest in protecting our sovereignty is at its strongest and that individual claims to constitutional entitlement are the least compelling). Jump to essay-11Ping v. United States, 130 U.S. 581, 609 (1889) (upholding law that excluded Chinese laborer ). Jump to essay-12Fiallo, 430 U.S. at 798–99 (upholding law that excluded individuals linked by an illegitimate child-to-natural father relationship from eligibility for certain immigration preferences). Jump to essay-13See Mandel, 408 U.S. at 767 (suggesting that law rendering communists ineligible for visas did not exceed Congress’s immigration powers). Jump to essay-14Trump v. Hawaii, No. 17-965, slip op. at 22–23, 39 (U.S. June 26, 2018). Jump to essay-15See Zadvydas, 533 U.S. at 690 (observing that statute permitting indefinite detention of an alien would raise a serious constitutional problem). Congress.gov Legal Accessibility External Link Disclaimer USA.gov Library of Congress Copyright.gov
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Post by luapnor on Mar 8, 2024 19:56:35 GMT -5
Hahaha... immigration is when you do it legally. When you cross the border without doing it legally, you are an invader. It is the presidents job to secure the border from invaders. Not sure why this escapes you. I suppose it is your attempt to rationalize Biden's failures.
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Post by dragonbait on Mar 8, 2024 20:30:29 GMT -5
That is what we have the Border Patrol for, you the agency your team refused to strengthen
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Post by tonyroma on Mar 8, 2024 22:05:10 GMT -5
Hahaha... immigration is when you do it legally. When you cross the border without doing it legally, you are an invader. It is the presidents job to secure the border from invaders. Not sure why this escapes you. I suppose it is your attempt to rationalize Biden's failures. Asylum laws contradict your opinion. Before you respond I feel the asylum laws are being manipulated.
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Post by Captj on Mar 9, 2024 6:14:29 GMT -5
President and Congress don't run this country, big business does. Want cheaper food prices? Look no further than the record profits of the largest food processors. Big oil, the insurance industry, shipping lines, and anything that has to do with the manufacture of goods outside of our country. Agriculture without illegal immigrant labor would not exist. These are things I had to deal with every day of my business life. These are indisputable facts that are twisted and spun by our politicians.
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Post by luapnor on Mar 9, 2024 8:53:59 GMT -5
Hahaha... immigration is when you do it legally. When you cross the border without doing it legally, you are an invader. It is the presidents job to secure the border from invaders. Not sure why this escapes you. I suppose it is your attempt to rationalize Biden's failures. Asylum laws contradict your opinion. Before you respond I feel the asylum laws are being manipulated. Asylum laws require application and specific entry points... crossing the border elsewhere makes you an illegal invader. Running from your home country is justification for asylum.
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Post by cadman on Mar 9, 2024 11:34:47 GMT -5
Asylum laws contradict your opinion. Before you respond I feel the asylum laws are being manipulated. Asylum laws require application and specific entry points... crossing the border elsewhere makes you an illegal invader. Running from your home country is justification for asylum. An illegal can apply for asylum as long as they do it within one year of entry into the country. That is one law congress needs to change. An illegal can cross the border and walk up to border patrol and say they want to claim asylum. They are then referred to the proper place to fill out the application. They may be charged with illegal entry and even go to court for that, but they then will have their asylum claim heard before being deported.
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Post by walkerdog on Mar 9, 2024 21:02:26 GMT -5
Ok I didn’t express myself clearly on that. You win. She was given the assignment to fix the border issue and she basically did nothing. When she speaks she just throws out a word salad that often makes no sense at all. I just don’t have any confidence in her ability at all. You do know its congresses job. Their approval record is horrible because all they wanna do is bloviate. Maybe you should let Sleepy in on your little secret then. He’s the one who gave her the assignment to work on the border issue when he took office. By work, maybe he meant make it worse instead of better. If so, he and his VP are doing a bang-up job!🤪
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Post by nuevowavo on Mar 11, 2024 14:12:59 GMT -5
"U.S. heads toward slow recovery with 353,000 jobs added in January"
Revised down 35% Good. Numbers are still strong, but not overheating.
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Post by luapnor on Mar 23, 2024 19:39:13 GMT -5
First time in history of the report.... US drops out of the the top 25. Doesn't seem possible with all the things the Democrats are doing for America.
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Post by cyclist on Mar 23, 2024 19:53:46 GMT -5
Its angst that the maga traitor felon rapist is actually a US presidential candidate. Enough to make any sane person question the state of America.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 20:45:06 GMT -5
Yeah. It’s all Trumps fault, even if he has been out of office for over three years
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Post by whitebacon on Mar 23, 2024 21:50:37 GMT -5
Its angst that the maga traitor felon rapist is actually a US presidential candidate. Enough to make any sane person question the state of America. The funny thing is that I don't care if you're gay. Really don't care. You cannot explain what happened today. 16 years old. And could not explain the epic stuff. Just weird.
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Post by whitebacon on Mar 23, 2024 21:54:57 GMT -5
Its angst that the maga traitor felon rapist is actually a US presidential candidate. Enough to make any sane person question the state of America. No one cares if you're A felon rapist. Stop bragging about it.
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Post by cadman on Mar 24, 2024 7:19:29 GMT -5
First time in history of the report.... US drops out of the the top 25. Doesn't seem possible with all the things the Democrats are doing for America. The chart says the U.S. is 23rd. 23 is in the top 25. Maybe you meant the top 20? The report says the issue is young people, under 30, are unhappy. Those 60 and over ranked the U.S. as the tenth happiest country.
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 24, 2024 13:10:29 GMT -5
First time in history of the report.... US drops out of the the top 25. Doesn't seem possible with all the things the Democrats are doing for America. The chart says the U.S. is 23rd. 23 is in the top 25. Maybe you meant the top 20? The report says the issue is young people, under 30, are unhappy. Those 60 and over ranked the U.S. as the tenth happiest country. When one's world view is one of perpetual conspiracy and victimhood, it's hard to maintain a sunny disposition.
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Post by luapnor on Mar 24, 2024 14:00:36 GMT -5
First time in history of the report.... US drops out of the the top 25. Doesn't seem possible with all the things the Democrats are doing for America. The chart says the U.S. is 23rd. 23 is in the top 25. Maybe you meant the top 20? The report says the issue is young people, under 30, are unhappy. Those 60 and over ranked the U.S. as the tenth happiest country. It was the top 20, not 25. People over 65 got their happiness funded by the debt thrown on the backs of those under 30.
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 24, 2024 14:06:06 GMT -5
The Fox News Channel and MAGA cult effect.
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Post by OhMy on Mar 24, 2024 17:01:34 GMT -5
The Fox News Channel and MAGA cult effect. BT and cyclist should have a circle jerk.
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Post by walkerdog on Mar 24, 2024 17:24:10 GMT -5
What do you think they do when they come here?😉
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Post by luapnor on Mar 24, 2024 21:55:47 GMT -5
What do you think they do when the come here?😉 They go insane...or present that way.
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Post by Captj on Mar 26, 2024 8:25:07 GMT -5
What's with all the name calling?
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