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Post by oldbastard on Sept 1, 2023 17:15:50 GMT -5
That does not have to be fact checked
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 1, 2023 17:18:09 GMT -5
You sure?
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Post by cadman on Sept 2, 2023 8:38:40 GMT -5
Well "to be fair", you should have mentioned Trump wanted to do it to bail out the oil companies and also that the Republican controlled the Senate and that it really wasn''t a great idea during Covid. You know "to be fair"  But like my post you quoted, both were factual. . I’m just learning how to play the game so I can hang with you and tarp.😊 You have a long way to go before you can snatch the pebble, grasshopper. |
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 8:38:44 GMT -5
I will agree with that, bidenomics is nonsense. I saw a poll today stating only 19% believe Biden is doing a good job on the economy. No help required from sheep who believe the lefts failed policies. The lefts "failed policies" brought this nation back from the brink of total financial collapse during the great recession. The worst downturn of our economy since the great depression. But that was then and this is now right?? History has a way of repeating itself, and even though all the financial pundits on the right have us looking at a gloom and doom near future it seems that we keep out performing the economic stress test the media seems so eager to promote. Did you remember to thank Bahney Fwank for causing the problem? Or, maybe you thanked this buddy Dodd instead? How can one honestly claim they saved someone from something they themselves caused? That thinking seems a bit backwards to me. |
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 8:45:27 GMT -5
Why waste your time trying to point out these types of common sense things to people who don’t want to acknowledge them. It’s plain that they have their marching orders and they don’t want to step out of line. |
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Post by cadman on Sept 2, 2023 8:47:48 GMT -5
"A fact" and "fair" is not the same, and you chose your Trumpcomlishment favoring the former at the expense of the latter.
Your response was biased and unfair. Cad's was objective and fair.
You can't hang with Cad and I, but that doesn't mean I don't love you too.
actually, you and Cad would probably be boring at the tiki bar. I’ll just hang with TRT. That is the truth. |
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 9:00:57 GMT -5
actually, you and Cad would probably be boring at the tiki bar. I’ll just hang with TRT. I know objectivity can be boring -- really you have no idea what I'm like -- but I do look forward to it happening one day.
I know I would enjoy it.
Objectivity! Good one!🤣 You’ve got an objective alright but one could hardly say you actually are objective (at least not with a straight face😉). Cad’s posts show way more objectivity than yours. You rate right there with the rest of us around here on that count. If you have any hope of ever catching up to Cad on objectivity, you sure do have your work cut out for you! |
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Post by cadman on Sept 2, 2023 9:21:14 GMT -5
You really shouldn't get old stories and rely on old data. Also refining capacity is the maximum capability and not the maximum produced for a given time period. Refineries never operate at 100%. For June 2023 Refinery capacity is back up to 18.2 million barrels a day and refineries are operating at 93% utilization rate. Back in 2020 the utilization rate was in the 70% to 80% range due to decreased demand and the oil companies shut down refineries. A few went bankrupt. Economically, it is not profitable for the oil companies to bring these refineries back online due to the cost involved and return on investment. it is more profitable to keep them closed and prices up. The Biden administration and the oil companies have been fighting this for the last year. Biden ewants the refineries back online and the oil companies refuse to spend the money. Chevron made $11 billion in second qtr 2022 and $6 billion in 2nd qtr 2023 thanks to high gas prices. Why spend a few hundred million on a refinery and watch those profits decrease a few billion more? Regulations do play a part in the issue, it is simply a return on the money spent that is keeping oil companies from investing in oil refining. Why spend $100 million to drive prices down and make less profit on more work? Here is current EIA data. www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_nus_m.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 9:47:19 GMT -5
You really shouldn't get old stories and rely on old data. Also refining capacity is the maximum capability and not the maximum produced for a given time period. Refineries never operate at 100%. For June 2023 Refinery capacity is back up to 18.2 million barrels a day and refineries are operating at 93% utilization rate. Back in 2020 the utilization rate was in the 70% to 80% range due to decreased demand and the oil companies shut down refineries. A few went bankrupt. Economically, it is not profitable for the oil companies to bring these refineries back online due to the cost involved and return on investment. it is more profitable to keep them closed and prices up. The Biden administration and the oil companies have been fighting this for the last year. Biden ewants the refineries back online and the oil companies refuse to spend the money. Chevron made $11 billion in second qtr 2022 and $6 billion in 2nd qtr 2023 thanks to high gas prices. Why spend a few hundred million on a refinery and watch those profits decrease a few billion more? Regulations do play a part in the issue, it is simply a return on the money spent that is keeping oil companies from investing in oil refining. Why spend $100 million to drive prices down and make less profit on more work? Here is current EIA data. www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_nus_m.htm The link I provided clearly shows the timeline I was referring to and all information seems correct. Don't tell me what I " shouldn't do " . If you want to talk about a different period, have at it . You offered nothing contrary to what I posted ,but your post comes across as you are disagreeing with something I said. You can make a comment without quoting me when you have something different to add. Tell BT I said Hi. |
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Post by luapnor on Sept 2, 2023 11:06:56 GMT -5
How do you tell both sides of a lie? take a mirror with you next time you go to your polling place. Lol... he would try to vote twice if he did that. |
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Post by luapnor on Sept 2, 2023 11:12:14 GMT -5
You really shouldn't get old stories and rely on old data. Also refining capacity is the maximum capability and not the maximum produced for a given time period. Refineries never operate at 100%. For June 2023 Refinery capacity is back up to 18.2 million barrels a day and refineries are operating at 93% utilization rate. Back in 2020 the utilization rate was in the 70% to 80% range due to decreased demand and the oil companies shut down refineries. A few went bankrupt. Economically, it is not profitable for the oil companies to bring these refineries back online due to the cost involved and return on investment. it is more profitable to keep them closed and prices up. The Biden administration and the oil companies have been fighting this for the last year. Biden ewants the refineries back online and the oil companies refuse to spend the money. Chevron made $11 billion in second qtr 2022 and $6 billion in 2nd qtr 2023 thanks to high gas prices. Why spend a few hundred million on a refinery and watch those profits decrease a few billion more? Regulations do play a part in the issue, it is simply a return on the money spent that is keeping oil companies from investing in oil refining. Why spend $100 million to drive prices down and make less profit on more work? Here is current EIA data. www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_nus_m.htm The link I provided clearly shows the timeline I was referring to and all information seems correct. Don't tell me what I " shouldn't do " . If you want to talk about a different period, have at it . You offered nothing contrary to what I posted ,but your post comes across as you are disagreeing with something I said. You can make a comment without quoting me when you have something different to add. Tell BT I said Hi. Cad will always change the argument so he thinks he is proving you wrong. He is the official forum goal post mover... tarp is a close second. |
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Post by luapnor on Sept 2, 2023 11:21:05 GMT -5
The unemployment rate rose by 0.3 percentage point to 3.8 percent in August, and the number of unemployed persons increased by 514,000 to 6.4 million. Both measures are little different from a year earlier, when the unemployment rate was 3.7 percent and the number of unemployed persons was 6.0 million.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 11:22:36 GMT -5
" Oh, the games people now
Every night and every day now
Never meanin' what they say now
Never sayin' what they mean, oh no. "
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 2, 2023 13:02:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 13:42:09 GMT -5
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 14:49:52 GMT -5
So which party wins in this voter fraud contest? Is it determined by how many illegal votes were cast?
I’m unsure about what the rules are here.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 2, 2023 15:09:42 GMT -5
So which party wins in this voter fraud contest? Is it determined by how many illegal votes were cast? I’m unsure about what the rules are here. No one, it's a non issue made up by the orange anus to harm America, and take attention from what a loser piece of shit he is. America's elections are the fairest on the globe. |
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 15:26:17 GMT -5
So, if it’s a non-issue, as you say, why would they prosecute it? Seems that not everyone shares your thinking, luckily.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 15:27:59 GMT -5
So which party wins in this voter fraud contest? Is it determined by how many illegal votes were cast? I’m unsure about what the rules are here. The democrats and I don't think we will know the answer to your 2nd question. |
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 15:32:21 GMT -5
So which party wins in this voter fraud contest? Is it determined by how many illegal votes were cast? I’m unsure about what the rules are here. The democrats and I don't think we will know the answer to your 2nd question. I think you’d be right, if the fraudulent votes were counted. The answer to the second part of the question is that we all lose when voter confidence in the process is undermined by fraud. |
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 2, 2023 15:39:00 GMT -5
So, if it’s a non-issue, as you say, why would they prosecute it? Seems that not everyone shares your thinking, luckily. To prevent it from becoming an issue, obviously. Have any examples where fraud has made a difference? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 15:45:20 GMT -5
So, if it’s a non-issue, as you say, why would they prosecute it? Seems that not everyone shares your thinking, luckily. To prevent it from becoming an issue, obviously. Have any examples where fraud has made a difference? We won't know because we won't know if it's been prevented from becoming an issue. |
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 2, 2023 15:47:09 GMT -5
To prevent it from becoming an issue, obviously. Have any examples where fraud has made a difference? We won't know because we won't know if it's been prevented from becoming an issue. Huh? Jesus H. Christ I'm going for a bike ride. |
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 2, 2023 15:57:43 GMT -5
Don’t get run over. Someone will have to cast your ballot for you, if you do.🤪
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 15:59:30 GMT -5
We won't know because we won't know if it's been prevented from becoming an issue. Huh? Jesus H. Christ I'm going for a bike ride. Do you have that Lefty Comfortcruiser . The one that comes without a seat for those that always have something up their ass . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 16:15:01 GMT -5
I probably shouldn't make fun of people that have bikes . If enough people had them it might make a foreign country think twice about attacking America knowing how quick we could get away.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 2, 2023 17:46:57 GMT -5
I probably shouldn't make fun of people that have bikes . If enough people had them it might make a foreign country think twice about attacking America knowing how quick we could get away. I don't have to be quicker than the forign invaders, I just have to be quicker than you. |
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Post by cadman on Sept 2, 2023 18:41:33 GMT -5
The link I provided clearly shows the timeline I was referring to and all information seems correct. Don't tell me what I " shouldn't do " . If you want to talk about a different period, have at it . You offered nothing contrary to what I posted ,but your post comes across as you are disagreeing with something I said. You can make a comment without quoting me when you have something different to add. Tell BT I said Hi. Cad will always change the argument so he thinks he is proving you wrong. He is the official forum goal post mover... tarp is a close second.  |
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 3, 2023 22:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2023 9:05:36 GMT -5
Voter fraud is alive and well in America. The Democrats invented it and they are masters of the craft. The Republicans have a long way to catch up.
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