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Post by Pressure Point on Sept 29, 2023 21:10:13 GMT -5
Bad news on Gulf 2023 gag season folks. NMFS is going to close it early. Early being October 19. Harvest levels are apparently too high and they want to avoid overrunning the annual catch limit. Wonder how they justify this when faced with this report NOAA overestimating recreational catch
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Post by saltydawg44 on Sept 30, 2023 3:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by drgibby on Sept 30, 2023 7:45:37 GMT -5
Total BS. I am convinced that their so-called data collecting scientists could not find their asses with both hands! Closing it early after cutting it by 4 months already makes perfect sense. I guess the EDF has won another round.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Sept 30, 2023 8:59:05 GMT -5
It's a bunch of BS.
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Post by cadman on Sept 30, 2023 9:15:56 GMT -5
I am old and don't own a boat any longer. But this is something that always bothered me when I fished a lot. Short seasons and regulations changing constantly. It seemed like you had to check the current regulation the day you went out to find out if you could keep anything you caught that day.
It used to be a lot of fun to take the boat out and fish, but the changing regulations made it a pain in the ass.
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Post by bridgeman213 on Sept 30, 2023 10:19:45 GMT -5
Was planning on waiting until a lot of em migrated inshore closer. 6 whole weeks for the year. It's what it is but this is getting ridiculous. People who are calling the shots are clueless. They closed the red grouper season and it's hard to not catch em. They'll be regulating grunts and lizard fish soon.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Sept 30, 2023 10:26:52 GMT -5
It is a PIA. I came in one day with a limit of AJ's and watched the GW check the boat in front of me. I did not get checked luckily. I called a friend on the way home to brag about our catch and he tells me the season is closed,hell we argued about it but he was right. I pride myself in that I try to do what is right. I read a lot, I try to stay informed, yet this got past me. It could have been an expensive and more so an embarrassing mistake.
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Post by 4ward on Sept 30, 2023 14:39:01 GMT -5
My kid and buddies have been on the trout flats since daybreak. As of 10am they had released 3 gags @ 20”+. All without even trying. I can’t help but see this whole thing as anything but Preemptive BS. Weather kept them inside today, they had planned to run some rock piles. When I tell him they are shutting it down, he’s going to lose his mind.
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Post by snappaslappa on Oct 8, 2023 22:11:08 GMT -5
Not sure how they came to it being there haven't been a lot of people going out and catching them. Idalia screwed the fishing up for a while plus the Weather has not been great. I just assume people have been waiting for the water to cool off as well, before they starting fishing for Gags. Guess that won't happen now. So as a charter guy after oct 18 I can only target Hogfish, Mango's and Grunts. We all know what's next on the closure list because of this right? Hogfish will be main target after the close down Gags and they will get hit HARD. Not good.
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Bad News
Oct 9, 2023 8:02:31 GMT -5
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Post by Crkr 23 on Oct 9, 2023 8:02:31 GMT -5
I bet mangoes are going to be on their(Feds) hit list soon. That sucks because we are just now figuring out how to target them in the CK area.
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Post by olmucky on Oct 10, 2023 10:12:09 GMT -5
Not sure how they came to it being there haven't been a lot of people going out and catching them. Idalia screwed the fishing up for a while plus the Weather has not been great.. I remember back in the day when Crabtree started all the BS one year we had a ton of gulf storms and nasty weather on a lot of the w/e’s And Fuel was outrageous. No one got out Well they essentially took X Floridians with x saltwater licenses and x days in the season and x fish potentially caught and said “you’ve overfished your quota” It’s nuts but apparently that’s their “science”
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Post by drgibby on Oct 10, 2023 12:03:39 GMT -5
I fished yesterday, it was rough as hell. All the gags you want inside 14 miles off clearwater. Go figure!
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Post by snappaslappa on Oct 10, 2023 21:56:35 GMT -5
I just fished a few miles offshore here in Hudson in 8' of water and all the 26-32" Gags you could catch. We were catching and releasing 30 inchers after we got our 3 person limit live chumming with greenbacks and throwing plugs. The amount of Gags out there is astounding.
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Post by drgibby on Oct 11, 2023 5:47:02 GMT -5
I just fished a few miles offshore here in Hudson in 8' of water and all the 26-32" Gags you could catch. We were catching and releasing 30 inchers after we got our 3 person limit live chumming with greenbacks and throwing plugs. The amount of Gags out there is astounding. Agreed. I seriously wonder if any of the decision makers actually spend time on the water. Pretty soon you won't be able to catch a grunt because of the gags!
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Post by fishwater on Oct 11, 2023 9:59:48 GMT -5
It is outrageous that they call it science, maybe vodoo science. But seriously, these kind of actions in the scientific arena undercut the validity of real science and the scientific process. In fact, its not really science, it is not peer reviewed nor can data and results be explained, let alone replicated. So its politics. And corruption.
Snappa slappa - its gonna have to be sportfishing for gags on plugs and lures nearshore. Save lots of gas and time.
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