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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 28, 2023 17:39:52 GMT -5
If convicted what should happen to him? Some are saying supermax with a small detail of secret service people.
IF convicted he still has secret service protection. There is only one prison that can keep him safe. Along with a small detail for the hour or so a day he might be out of his cell.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 28, 2023 17:51:14 GMT -5
As much as I despise the guy, putting him in jail would be a bad look. But I do want to see him squirm during all 4 trials.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 29, 2023 13:54:31 GMT -5
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 30, 2023 17:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 30, 2023 17:44:04 GMT -5
So Fulton county is ready to roll.
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Post by dragonbait on Jun 30, 2023 18:13:48 GMT -5
#LOCKHIMUP
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 30, 2023 18:45:18 GMT -5
As much as I despise the guy, putting him in jail would be a bad look. But I do want to see him squirm during all 4 trials.
Leaders of other first world countries cannot believe he is not in jail.....
Just the January 6th crap he pulled would not have flown in the UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, etc....
He would have been jailed and tried quickly.... The documents thing would have not have flown either... Just this week, he publicly threatened the Special Prosecutor. AND his family...
I am not saying we should be like other first world countries whose governments are based on Democracy.
We SHOULD be BETTER... We are the great experiment.... A Republic of Member States that came together to form a Union. A single country of member states with rights provided and guaranteed both on the state and federal level.
And the experiment worked. for almost 250 years.... We have grown to be the only economic and military super power in the world.
WW1 and WW2 were won because of us.... We won the Cold War.... We became the country all other countries looked to for leadership and many times protection. At one time being closely allied with the US saved many countries from being invaded by their ill willed neighbors.
All that ended when the orange lunatic refused to admit defeat and have a peaceful transfer of power that has always been done until him... Instead He made false claims, ranted, tweeted, invited, nearly begged, fringe radicals to DC... Gave a speech full of lies, got them all worked up then ordered them to go take over the Capital..... Up until then, the only time our Capital had been breached was during the war of 1812. When England was trying to take the United State back.
That bullshit made us look like a mickey mouse third world country that cannot get its shit together....
And what do we do about that insurrection? Nothing... We let him go... We have allowed him to keep running his mouth. We have allowed him to keep his fringe radical base, Some of them hold public office, stirred up... We have allowed him to brow beat the entire Republican party. He attacks anyone that speaks against him...
Letting him walk is the bad look...
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 30, 2023 18:56:15 GMT -5
Ok , you changed my mind - LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 30, 2023 20:14:37 GMT -5
Ok , you changed my mind - LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 30, 2023 20:52:50 GMT -5
Ok , you changed my mind - LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP You misunderstand me.... As a country we do not lock up treasonists and insurrectionists.
He should face the gallows or a firing squad....
As should everyone that breached the Capital after it was locked down that day...
Those people were not patriots.... We all have election results that we absolutely hate....
They had a fair and free election result they did not like and they tried to violently take over our country.. We should all be pissed off about that...
They were screaming Hang Pence... Do you actually think if that mob had gotten to our Vice President that
showed great courage that day, they would not have killed him.
I have never liked Nancy Pelosi... But they would have killed her as well... And last year someone broke into the Pelosi home and fractured her husbands skull
The Trumpers forced out Liz Cheney and one of the young and BRIGHTEST minds in the Republican Party.. Adam Kizinger....
I had him pegged to become the leader of the Republican party one day and a two term President... He is far from a coward... He has served in combat zones.... But when there were threats to his wife... His child, even his dog.... He did what he had to do.. He cannot protect his wife and child when they are at home and he is in DC.... He chose to protect his wife...
Now we have the house with the weakest Leader of the house in our lifetime.... We have psychos like Marjorie Taylor Greene (that woman should be in a mental health facility) And Lauren Boabert.... Just as crazy but gets less press time..... And What do I say about Keri Lake?
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Post by tootysamoron on Jun 30, 2023 20:56:45 GMT -5
Liz Cheney is a like her father.
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 30, 2023 21:32:32 GMT -5
Liz Cheney is a like her father. Who said she wasn't?
We could use a few more like her and her daddy in the party...
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 30, 2023 21:36:57 GMT -5
Liz Chaney was a shining star and the 3rd highest ranking republican until she spoke out against the orange crush. Orange man high jacked your party and has produced nothing but loses since. Will never understand how a loud mouth from New Jersey , who wouldn’t know how to load a 9MM won the hearts of middle class conservatives.
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Post by tootysamoron on Jun 30, 2023 21:37:25 GMT -5
Liz Cheney is a like her father. Who said she wasn't?
We could use a few more like her and her daddy in the party...
War mongers aren't what this country needs.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 30, 2023 21:42:52 GMT -5
Ok , you changed my mind - LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP-LOCK HIM UP We have psychos like Marjorie Taylor Greene (that woman should be in a mental health facility) And Lauren Boabert.... Just as crazy but gets less press time..... And What do I say about Keri Lake?
I don’t think they’re crazy. I think they’re cynical and fake. They play to crazy for fringe votes. Which makes them worse in my opinion.
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Post by tootysamoron on Jun 30, 2023 21:46:26 GMT -5
We have psychos like Marjorie Taylor Greene (that woman should be in a mental health facility) And Lauren Boabert.... Just as crazy but gets less press time..... And What do I say about Keri Lake?
I don’t think they’re crazy. I think they’re cynical and fake. They play to crazy for fringe votes. Which makes them worse in my opinion. They are yings yang to AOC's group of mental cases.
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 30, 2023 22:38:15 GMT -5
I don’t think they’re crazy. I think they’re cynical and fake. They play to crazy for fringe votes. Which makes them worse in my opinion. They are yings yang to AOC's group of mental cases. AOC and her ilk are just as bad....
But they are all non starters.... When is the last time you saw AOC and her crew in a news cycle...
Greene and Boabert are in the news cycle EVERY day....
And some people eat it up....
No Yin and Yang here..... AOC and her Ilk are well off the radar...... Greene and Boabert are front and center feeding radicals...
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Post by Captj on Jul 5, 2023 14:02:51 GMT -5
As much as I dislike the AOC crowd at least when she speaks it's about helping those in need. I don't necessarily agree with their solutions, but it's not about a purely political agenda.
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 5, 2023 14:07:31 GMT -5
I would absolutely bang AOC. She is literally the only effable dumocrat in the country.
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Post by Captj on Jul 5, 2023 14:09:42 GMT -5
By the way, what's Boebert, Green, AOC, et al have to do with Trump's obvious attempt at using classified documents aka our country's top secrets for his personal entertainment. oh, I know now it was just bluster, or locker room bragging, or some other bad attempt at an excuse for his stupid actions. Can't believe he didn't just burn them all. And you're pretty naive if you don't think there are copies on a hard drive somewhere.
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Post by whitebacon on Jul 5, 2023 14:17:25 GMT -5
By the way, what's Boebert, Green, AOC, et al have to do with Trump's obvious attempt at using classified documents aka our country's top secrets for his personal entertainment. oh, I know now it was just bluster, or locker room bragging, or some other bad attempt at an excuse for his stupid actions. Can't believe he didn't just burn them all. And you're pretty naive if you don't think there are copies on a hard drive somewhere. Hard drive? No way. Hillary bleached and literally hammered those to death. After the servers in the closet were summarily destroyed along with the emails.
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Post by conchydong on Jul 5, 2023 14:26:22 GMT -5
Why don’t we just except the fact that all of these modern day politicians are scum bags except for maybe Jimmy Carter and he was a terrible president. Just have to pick the best one that coincides with your and the nation’s best interest.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 6, 2023 8:32:10 GMT -5
Why don’t we just except the fact that all of these modern day politicians are scum bags except for maybe Jimmy Carter and he was a terrible president. Just have to pick the best one that coincides with your and the nation’s best interest.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 6, 2023 8:35:15 GMT -5
Did you mean "accept" ?
We can "except" Carter from the rest, if only because he lost to an "acting president" who was without a clue.
Even in his current state, Carter is in better mental health than Reagan ever was.
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Post by conchydong on Jul 6, 2023 8:43:33 GMT -5
Yes. "accept". talk text on the phone got me again. I seldom go over it to edit as it sometimes makes it worse.
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Post by Captj on Jul 7, 2023 6:59:39 GMT -5
The classified documents clusterfuck involved our past and present leaders. Equal opportunity for all! If they looked further they would probably find that all of the past presidents did the same thing. What do these "leaders" not understand? They hire the best lawyers, have multiple aids running interference for them and still can't walk a straight line. Wonder if Puta shared any top secret docs with his dear friend DT? I think not.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 7, 2023 7:14:21 GMT -5
The classified documents clusterfuck involved our past and present leaders. Equal opportunity for all! If they looked further they would probably find that all of the past presidents did the same thing. What do these "leaders" not understand? They hire the best lawyers, have multiple aids running interference for them and still can't walk a straight line. Wonder if Puta shared any top secret docs with his dear friend DT? I think not. 100% of all high ranking politicians, judges, attorneys, and military have classified and top secret materials and communication transcripts at their homes and stored on their personal devices. 100% not 99%
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 7, 2023 13:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 9, 2023 12:09:08 GMT -5
The classified documents clusterfuck involved our past and present leaders. Equal opportunity for all! If they looked further they would probably find that all of the past presidents did the same thing. What do these "leaders" not understand? They hire the best lawyers, have multiple aids running interference for them and still can't walk a straight line. Wonder if Puta shared any top secret docs with his dear friend DT? I think not. 100% of all high ranking politicians, judges, attorneys, and military have classified and top secret materials and communication transcripts at their homes and stored on their personal devices. 100% not 99%
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 9, 2023 12:33:47 GMT -5
"100% of all high ranking politicians, judges, attorneys, and military have classified and top secret materials and communication transcripts at their homes and stored on their personal devices. 100% not 99%"
Let's say, for discussion purposes, that the above statement is correct.
Fine.
Here's the big difference: When the National Archives ask for a documents return, repeatedly, 100% of high rank judges, attorneys, and politicians COMPLY PROMPTLY.
They don't dick around, they don't lie about it, they don't hide them, and they don't require subpoenas!
They don't drag their attorney's into doing their dirty work!
If the lines weren't crystal clear, if there was any doubt about what was going on, a judge would not have REMOVED attorney/client privilege.
That is a rare occurrence, and it is a step that is never taken lightly.
"The cover-up is Always Worse than the Crime!" When will they get it through their head?
The only question now is whether Trump will be tried and convicted before the nominating convention.
There are almost certainly more indictments in the pipeline, in jurisdictions that won't allow delay.
The state of Georgia has him dead to rights, on tape, over and over.
He's toast.
The District of Columbia circuit will be dropping more Federal charges soon, plus the Feds in New Jersey.
The entire clan of grifters will be dead-broke soon enough.
The statute of limitations has run out on criminal charges, but the Civil Case will be a killer.
Civil RICO, with Triple Damages, for all the inflated rents they fraudulently collected.
They are on the hook for billions that they don't have!
You think not? You think the numbers lie? You think they didn't know?
Less than a week after the NY Times broke the story of the Trumps "phantom markups", his sister resigned her job.
She was a Federal judge, with a lifetime appointment.
That says it all ... the Trumps are guilty as hell, and headed down the toilet.
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