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Post by misterjr on Jul 24, 2023 17:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 25, 2023 0:36:47 GMT -5
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Post by OhMy on Jul 25, 2023 8:39:38 GMT -5
It makes no sense why Pence and Joe committed those crimes and nothing is done.
Don't give me the BS that they gave the docs back when asked, that does not absolve them from the crime of having the documents in the first place.
it is hypocritical and you know it.
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Post by cadman on Jul 25, 2023 9:05:01 GMT -5
It makes no sense why Pence and Joe committed those crimes and nothing is done. Don't give me the BS that they gave the docs back when asked, that does not absolve them from the crime of having the documents in the first place. it is hypocritical and you know it. As I understand the charges, Trump is being charged with refusing to return the documents when requested and lying about having them, claiming he didn't when he did. I do not know all the charges, but if they stem from the fact he and his attorney lied about having them and refused to return them when the Justice department ordered him to, then filing charges against him and not against Biden or Pence would be logical. Neither Bidne nor Pence admitted to knowingly taking the documents and returned them immediately when found. Trying to prove criminal intent would be difficult in such a case and not worth prosecution. In Trumps case, while i think this prosecution is stupid. His words and deeds demonstrated he knew he had the documents and he refused to return them. Criminal intent can be easily proven in his case. In reality, if he had returned them when originally asked to, none of this would have happened. it would have been a non issue. Trump was the idiot who claimed they were his and he wasn't giving them back and tried to hide them. Then coming up with cray excuses like he thought about declassifying them, so they were declassified or that the FBI planted the documents. His ego and big mouth is what brought on the charges.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 25, 2023 9:52:36 GMT -5
Yup, even if he tries to use the presidential records act as a defense they have him on tape sharing top secret military information to people with no security clearance, supposedly.
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Post by OhMy on Jul 25, 2023 12:56:35 GMT -5
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 26, 2023 1:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by throttle on Jul 26, 2023 18:40:01 GMT -5
Yup, even if he tries to use the presidential records act as a defense they have him on tape sharing top secret military information to people with no security clearance, supposedly. And you can prove those weren't random typed pages waved for effect? Who did he share that info with? Did the receiving party actually receive the info, or just see paper waved at them? Can the charge be proven? Of course if it was tried in DC he would automatically be found guilty no matter what, but I believe this one's being tried in Ft. Pierce, so don't hold your breath.
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 26, 2023 18:44:51 GMT -5
Obstruction is pretty much a done deal,
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 26, 2023 18:51:53 GMT -5
Throttle it back homey , nobody knows shit , supposedly was in my post. All I know is on the surface it looks like Jack Smith is no rookie. Trumps legal team has its hands full. I’ll have my popcorn.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 26, 2023 23:39:27 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one old enough to remember the over 60 court cases he lost on his rigged election scam. He's entered the old man yells at cloud phase. How stupid does one have to be to buy this BS? (rhetorical?)
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Post by Captj on Jul 27, 2023 6:09:50 GMT -5
Saw his rant on whatever media he's allowed on now. Looks positively unhinged. Red team is in trouble.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 27, 2023 9:55:24 GMT -5
I have no proof but I believe the Democrats shaved a few thousand votes in all of the close races.
Biden may have won by millions of votes but only by a razor thin margin in the close races.
Winning by millions in the solid democrat states makes him look like he won by millions but what were the actual numbers of votes he won by in the close states.
And yes Trump is a nut case to keep ranting over spilled milk. It’s done and over dipstick. Move on.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 27, 2023 10:05:02 GMT -5
I have no proof but I believe the Democrats shaved a few thousand votes in all of the close races. Biden may have won by millions of votes but only by a razor thin margin in the close races. Winning by millions in the solid democrat states makes him look like he won by millions but what were the actual numbers of votes he won by in the close states. And yes Trump is a nut case to keep ranting over spilled milk. It’s done and over dipstick. Move on. Of course you have no proof.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 27, 2023 10:58:11 GMT -5
No proof to the vote manipulation but count the votes that swung the close states.
Democrats are masters of voting manipulation. It goes back decades. Think of JKK, Mayor Daley & Sam Giancanna in Cook County Illinois. 👍
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