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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 20, 2023 15:18:10 GMT -5
Who can even remember who made this guy his Chief of Staff?
"Mark Meadows has told special counsel Jack Smith's investigators that he could not recall Trump ever ordering, or even discussing, declassifying broad sets of classified materials before leaving the White House." Also, no standing declassification order.
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Post by Tarponator on Aug 20, 2023 15:43:42 GMT -5
I'm confused. Is TDS a disease that people who love Trump have or is it a disease that people who detest Trump have? Or could it possibly be one and the same on both sides? In some weird way, has Trump managed to infect both sides? I agree that it seems to infect both sides. The Left thinks he’s the devil incarnate and a walking political nuclear bomb that has to be defused at all costs, even if the means are dishonest. Among his followers, he can do no wrong and every word he says is gospel. Specifically concerning Trump’s followers loving the man or the policies, if it was about the policies then they should be calling him out whenever he contradicts himself. I generally don’t see that happen except from ex-Trump supporters like myself who split from him because he didn’t follow through with his promises, and then lies and says he did. That's a bit of an oversimplification.
Some of us just saw him for what he was before you did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 16:20:38 GMT -5
At this time , who do you see as the best option ? The incumbent President. I'll have to tell my wife I communicated with someone who actually said they would vote for Biden.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 20, 2023 16:43:53 GMT -5
Write in votes are wasted. How would it be if Biden won by a few votes? Please reconsider and don’t waste a vote. Vote for whoever you think is best for the country that has a chance of winning . Please. very special Chicago democrat unicorn, begging never Trumpers to not write in candidates. Dude you’re a trip
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 20, 2023 16:56:19 GMT -5
I agree that it seems to infect both sides. The Left thinks he’s the devil incarnate and a walking political nuclear bomb that has to be defused at all costs, even if the means are dishonest. Among his followers, he can do no wrong and every word he says is gospel. Specifically concerning Trump’s followers loving the man or the policies, if it was about the policies then they should be calling him out whenever he contradicts himself. I generally don’t see that happen except from ex-Trump supporters like myself who split from him because he didn’t follow through with his promises, and then lies and says he did. That's a bit of an oversimplification.
Some of us just saw him for what he was before you did. He’s not the racist Nazi the Left thinks he is. Not even close. That part of their view of Trump is indeed TDS. I support the policies he ran on in 2016. I reject him because he didn’t carry them out and lied about doing so. His bombast is also grating.
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Post by One Man Gang on Aug 20, 2023 17:03:41 GMT -5
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 20, 2023 17:10:05 GMT -5
I'll have to tell my wife I communicated with someone who actually said they would vote for Biden. So will I
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 20, 2023 19:24:14 GMT -5
So what are the policies people love so much? Border control and tax cuts?
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 20, 2023 19:39:42 GMT -5
My number one policy is voting against the GQP
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 19:43:49 GMT -5
So what are the policies people love so much? Border control and tax cuts? I like those 2 .
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 20, 2023 21:38:40 GMT -5
So what are the policies people love so much? Border control and tax cuts? Those, protectionist economic policies, removing career bureaucrats out of D.C. (draining the swamp), dramatically cutting Federal spending, to name some. In my mind, he only ended up delivering on something he didn’t really harp on, which was transforming the Supreme Court.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 20, 2023 22:33:58 GMT -5
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Post by Captj on Aug 21, 2023 4:28:25 GMT -5
In his own twisted egomaniacal mind. Grasping at straws? Throwing shit against the wall? Not the wall Mexico isn't paying for? This from a perfect mind?
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Post by Tarponator on Aug 21, 2023 8:52:50 GMT -5
That's a bit of an oversimplification.
Some of us just saw him for what he was before you did. He’s not the racist Nazi the Left thinks he is. Not even close. That part of their view of Trump is indeed TDS. I support the policies he ran on in 2016. I reject him because he didn’t carry them out and lied about doing so. His bombast is also grating. Some of us just saw him for what he was ....and didn't need to wait for his "racist nazi" tendencies or whatever other generalizations you seem to think "the Left" thinks of him.
Just like you, each of us had our reasons. Yours are no better or worse, justified or unjustified, than anyone else's.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 21, 2023 9:21:47 GMT -5
He’s not the racist Nazi the Left thinks he is. Not even close. That part of their view of Trump is indeed TDS. I support the policies he ran on in 2016. I reject him because he didn’t carry them out and lied about doing so. His bombast is also grating. Some of us just saw him for what he was ....and didn't need to wait for his "racist nazi" tendencies or whatever other generalizations you seem to think "the Left" thinks of him.
Just like you, each of us had our reasons. Yours are no better or worse, justified or unjustified, than anyone else's.
I was careful to say “the Left” and not you specifically. I don’t assert to know how you perceived him. I do think its accurate that the Left in the aggregate largely believes him to be some sort of racist fascist.
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