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Post by ferris1248 on Nov 4, 2024 12:06:58 GMT -5
Any of y'all A/C or commercial refrigeration techs seeing a lot of Opteon refrigerant around? Made by Chemours (CC)?
How big a player are they?
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Post by tampaspicer on Nov 4, 2024 13:10:30 GMT -5
I'll ask my cousin.
We were talking about the new refrigerant the other day. He told me equipment using it is a lot more expensive. He also said it's more flammable/combustible. They have to put gas sensors in the new equipment because of it.
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Post by slough on Nov 4, 2024 13:13:24 GMT -5
Is that the stuff that has propane in it?
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Post by tampaspicer on Nov 4, 2024 14:31:56 GMT -5
Is that the stuff that has propane in it? It's mildly flammable from what I read. What concerns me is the sensor needed in the equipment to detect leaking gas. What happens if the sensors don't work and a leak springs in your air handler inside your home? I don't know enough about it but my uncle and cousin would because they are in the ac business.
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Post by nickhoog on Nov 4, 2024 14:34:10 GMT -5
It is flammable, but low. Yes leak sensors, refrigerant is heavier than air, in air handlers and evap. coils over furnaces. They shut system down and go through a "flushing" motor phase to expel the refrigerant from unit.
Yes, more expensive on both the refrigerant and the equipment. To add, the sensors work off a circuit board, YEA, more to fail.
Actually R-410a, the one being phased out, is flammable but they put a flame retardant in it so it didn't burn. They are telling us that the newer refrigerants R-32 (used by Diakin) and R-454 (used by most of the rest) is much better at retaining heat so they will be more efficient making the unit sizes smaller.
Propane is only used in smaller appliances; freezers, Keg-o-rators and the such. So don't knock the cherry off the doobie when your standing around the keg....
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