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Post by ferris1248 on Oct 28, 2024 8:48:39 GMT -5
The hammer falls today at 3:10 EDT "The BMW E31, produced from 1990 to 1999, is the first generation of the 8 Series, designed as a high-performance grand tourer available in two-door coupe form with V8 and V12 engine options." Developed with a significant investment of over 1.5 billion Deutsche Marks, its design process began in 1981, culminating in its debut at the 1989 Frankfurt Motor Show. Positioned above the original E24 6 Series, the E31 aimed to offer enhanced luxury and performance, featuring advanced CAD tools and extensive wind tunnel testing that resulted in an impressive drag coefficient of Cd=0.29, showcasing its aerodynamic efficiency and innovative engineering. In 1996, the 840ci received BMW’s excellent 4.4-liter V8; same horsepower but now with 310 lb-ft of torque. American-spec V8 versions all have a five-speed automatic. “There’s something timelessly gorgeous about the 8 Series, or E31 to all those factory code completists,” Motor Trend wrote. It is hard not to see why these cars have remained a highly sought-after model, even 25 years after the final example rolled off the assembly line." Timeless BMW 8-series E31 coupe M62 4.4-liter DOHC, 32-valve V8 producing 282 hp @ 5700 rpm Finished in Alpinweiss (Alpine White) over Pergament (Parchment) Nappa leather interior The chassis number (WBAEF8326TCC31018) decodes as: W – Germany country of origin B – BMW A – Passenger car E – 840i line F – 840i/840ci 8 – 840ci automatic 3 – Passenger vehicle 2 – Manual belts with air bags 6 – Check digit T – 1996 model year C – Dingolfing, Germany, final assembly plant C31018 – Sequential production number Options include but are not limited to: S431 – Interior mirror with automatic-dip S438 – Fine wood trim S488 – Lumbar support, driver and passenger S640 – Preparation for telephone installation universal S694 – Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S241 – Air bag for driver and passenger S245 – Steering wheel column adjustment, electric Clean CARFAX Vehicle History Report "The accompanying CARFAX Vehicle History Report places this four-owner 1996 BMW 840ci in California, Arizona, and back to southern California in 2018. It currently shows 85,197 miles. The consignor states, “This is my second 840ci, they are fabulous vehicles and epitomize the ultimate driving machine! The prior owner was a friend who had the vehicle for five years before I obtained it. He took excellent care and spared no expense.” www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1996-BMW-840Ci/f3cccdf9-504d-4886-bfad-5bbee49f1ed1?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=24_MKT_MKT_USA_EML_UN_UN_MKPNL_Monday&hashed_email=63c04464cda8a18e98751fea96e16a3cd73cb2ecbc50f90a4d58a68f6798192a&dtm_em=63c04464cda8a18e98751fea96e16a3cd73cb2ecbc50f90a4d58a68f6798192awww.hagerty.com/marketplace/search
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Post by misterjr on Oct 28, 2024 10:19:44 GMT -5
It's a beautiful car but a money pit, I would guess.
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Post by garycoleco on Oct 28, 2024 12:04:55 GMT -5
Had one for a year. They're great when they're running. I drove the loaner more
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Post by mapper on Oct 28, 2024 12:19:24 GMT -5
While I appreciate things like that, I still understand why a huge majority of street rods are based on Chevy small block, pre computer controlled engines and transmissions and 9" ford rearends are pretty bulletproof, as well as Dana axles.
Huge list of years and interchangeably
Now if I had a conex of NOS parts to go with that beemer..
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Post by Mynki on Oct 28, 2024 13:30:41 GMT -5
Are you tempted Ferris? I agree with above, any V12 motor can be a real money pit! Join some of the BMW owners groups on Facebook or similar and do a lot of research before buying something like this. They're a great car though.
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Post by ferris1248 on Oct 28, 2024 13:36:29 GMT -5
Are you tempted Ferris? I agree with above, any V12 motor can be a real money pit! Join some of the BMW owners groups on Facebook or similar and do a lot of research before buying something like this. They're a great car though. Naw. I'm with Mapper. Give me a small block chevy and a Muncie 4 speed any day. 😀 I do appreciate all performance cars though.
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Post by tankered on Oct 28, 2024 14:35:56 GMT -5
BMWs are just ugly as shit to me, and that one is exceptionally ugly.
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Post by gardawg on Oct 28, 2024 15:16:28 GMT -5
I've never wanted one ... except for a certain motorcycle ... a thumper.
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Post by swampdog on Oct 28, 2024 15:36:21 GMT -5
I’m too darn practical to own one. I believe there’s some good design features, but mostly the brand has evolved into a status symbol. People that can afford them have tons of money to flaunt.
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Post by Mynki on Oct 28, 2024 15:59:36 GMT -5
I’m too darn practical to own one. I believe there’s some good design features, but mostly the brand has evolved into a status symbol. People that can afford them have tons of money to flaunt. Go throw an M car around a track or drive it really hard on twisty roads. Only then will you see their engineering at its best. They're designed and built to be driven fast. Not for trips to and from the grocery store. People who buy them purely as status symbols, and there are many who do, will never unleash more than 50% of their cars potential. Sad but true. I've driven a few Chargers and Mustangs and to be brutally honest, the BMW M cars make them look like pieces of shit on a track. They just can't handle corners at high speed like an M3 can. And the German motors go a lot straighter than Mustangs on a drag strip too! The same applies to Mercedes AMG sedans. Audi are not quite there yet.
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Post by garycoleco on Oct 28, 2024 18:33:30 GMT -5
Bought a brand new M5 in 1988. Kept it for 7 months and bought a M6 and kept it for 2 years. Never own a BMW out or warranty.
I almost got tempted last year when a friend wanted to sell his 2002 TII that was fully restored. Glad I didn't bother
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Post by Mynki on Oct 29, 2024 10:44:21 GMT -5
BMWs are just ugly as shit to me, and that one is exceptionally ugly. The last few years has seen them try and make the entire range from the 1 series to the 8 series all look the same. And some of the kidney grill modern designs are simply, shite. The worst of all is the X6. Whoever styled that should be strung up from the nearest tree and set on fire. Other than a few K cars, it's difficult to think of an uglier current model. That said, most SUV's all look the same these days.
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Post by Mynki on Oct 29, 2024 10:56:11 GMT -5
Bought a brand new M5 in 1988. Kept it for 7 months and bought a M6 and kept it for 2 years. Never own a BMW out or warranty. I almost got tempted last year when a friend wanted to sell his 2002 TII that was fully restored. Glad I didn't bother Never had a single issue with the last five BMW's. Though all were from new and were renewed before any hit 50k on the clock. These were all daily drivers. Older collectibles never posed any real problems either. Though I'm absolutely fastidious when it comes to checking any car over. Problem M cars are the ones bought by boy racers who thrash them daily and don't get them serviced properly as they're trying to save money. But that's the same story with a lot of sports cars. The 2002 TII is one sexy model. I've considered owning one on a few occasions. When ICE cars are no longer being built, we'll see a huge surge in interest in collectible ICE cars. The 2002 TII as long as it's in absolutely mint condition could be one hell of an investment. I've seen extreme examples for over $150,000. But you need to emphasize the word 'extreme' here. This 2002 turbo variant one is around $130,000. www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16740723I still kick myself regularly for not buying a E30 M3. If you check out their values now it will all make sense. Same story with the Lancia Delta HF Integrale. I really should have picked up a clean one of those too when the chance arose. Which M5 did you have?
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Post by limpit on Oct 29, 2024 17:38:52 GMT -5
Most BMW drivers (at least in Gainesville, FL) are middle-aged soy boys that cannot see their junk over their big guts. I love messing with them in my 1987 Buick Grand National (60 mm turbo - 24 + lbs of boost - methanol injection, drag radials out back). No, not a corner cutting car at all....but funny as hell when the G-Ville BMW owners get a whiff of methanol, and an earful of turbo whistle.
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Post by ferris1248 on Oct 29, 2024 17:45:24 GMT -5
Most BMW drivers (at least in Gainesville, FL) are middle-aged soy boys that cannot see their junk over their big guts. I love messing with them in my 1987 Buick Grand National (60 mm turbo - 24 + lbs of boost - methanol injection, drag radials out back). No, not a corner cutting car at all....but funny as hell when the G-Ville BMW owners get a whiff of methanol, and an earful of turbo whistle. Now this I like.
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Post by mapper on Oct 29, 2024 18:33:28 GMT -5
Those grand nationals /gnx were nice.. All of them needed that bumpersticker that said "not your dads/grandads buick" most folks were not expecting that performance out of something that looked like a buick regal, lol..
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Post by limpit on Oct 29, 2024 19:06:01 GMT -5
Thanks, ferris and mapper. My Buick has a rear license plate surround that says "Leave a large carbon footprint". Goes over well in Gainesville.
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Post by Mynki on Oct 30, 2024 4:45:13 GMT -5
Most BMW drivers (at least in Gainesville, FL) are middle-aged soy boys that cannot see their junk over their big guts. I love messing with them in my 1987 Buick Grand National (60 mm turbo - 24 + lbs of boost - methanol injection, drag radials out back). No, not a corner cutting car at all....but funny as hell when the G-Ville BMW owners get a whiff of methanol, and an earful of turbo whistle. I think you'd blow away a BMW 116i. Maybe a BMW 320 diesel too. I'd love to race you, but how would we make it fair? Maybe I turn my car around and start in reverse? Maybe not use 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th gear?
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Post by gardawg on Oct 30, 2024 7:38:45 GMT -5
If you're going race track speed then you need race track safety gear.
I don't see much of that in your 'boy racers' no matter the make of vehicle.
saw it all the time in the ER ... seat belt injuries to the guts and head injuries to the brain ... fast cars and oak trees are not a good mix
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Post by Mynki on Oct 30, 2024 8:00:16 GMT -5
If you're going race track speed then you need race track safety gear. I don't see much of that in your 'boy racers' no matter the make of vehicle. saw it all the time in the ER ... seat belt injuries to the guts and head injuries to the brain ... fast cars and oak trees are not a good mix Some of these posts might have been written tongue in cheek. If you're going to go race track speed, you should do it on a racetrack. After you've had instruction and understand safety and track etiquette. Then you should choose your helmet, gloves and clothing. Friends and I occasionally drive over to Germany to drive on the Nurburgring. Both in our own cars and occasionally we'll hire some of their rentals. Annual deaths are still between 3 and 12. There's a million and one videos online of people racing on it. And plenty of crashes featuring people who don't know how to drive on a track. Bikers are some of the biggest assholes to be found on there as some of them don't like moving over. It's really not a place for cars that can't handle corners at speed though. That's the real way to do it. www.nuerburgring.de/en/
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Post by gardawg on Oct 30, 2024 10:35:53 GMT -5
I'd like to try the 'ring but that's a long drive from Florida to Germany ... and the tolls are prohibitively expensive
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Post by tampaspicer on Oct 30, 2024 10:46:20 GMT -5
I use to drive one of those up to North Fl get out of it and get back in another one and return to Tampa. $1000 and don't open the trunk.
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Post by Mynki on Oct 30, 2024 11:01:37 GMT -5
I'd like to try the 'ring but that's a long drive from Florida to Germany ... and the tolls are prohibitively expensive I get that. It's still a fair trip for us and expensive too. But for people who do find themselves nearby, it's well worth the time and money. They'll never, ever be another track built like it.
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Post by gogittum on Oct 30, 2024 11:07:20 GMT -5
I wish those sites would show pics of the cars.
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Post by gardawg on Oct 30, 2024 12:41:47 GMT -5
it does look like fun ...
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Post by cadman on Oct 30, 2024 13:15:56 GMT -5
I wish those sites would show pics of the cars. They do show pictures, your browser is blocking them for some reason.
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Post by nikonoclast on Oct 30, 2024 16:00:21 GMT -5
Those grand nationals /gnx were nice.. All of them needed that bumpersticker that said "not your dads/grandads buick" most folks were not expecting that performance out of something that looked like a buick regal, lol.. If my memory serves, a dozen or more of those Buick's were ordered by the FBI.
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Post by limpit on Oct 30, 2024 19:48:40 GMT -5
Mynki,
Good comeback. I do like Bimmers; although maybe not as much as AMG's. Would love to have an M5 as a daily driver. But...if you really want to run a car to see how fast a BMW is - wish (you/I) could teleport your choice of BMW to Gainesville Raceway for a Test and Tune night. Pick out any car with NT (No Time) on the window.
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Post by Mynki on Oct 31, 2024 3:20:57 GMT -5
it does look like fun ... An Ariel Atom. Good choice. I can remember when Clarkson reviewed this car on Top Gear. I'd love a go in one of these. Watch Jezza's face when he drives it at speed.
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Post by ferris1248 on Oct 31, 2024 5:24:40 GMT -5
it does look like fun ... That's a good video. Play on a curved gaming screen and the illusion will make you a little queasy.
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