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Post by pinman on Jul 23, 2023 20:53:27 GMT -5
A little fertilizer, mainly nitrogen improves honeysuckle consumption by deer. Small pieces of sparkle berry wood or grape vines in your smoker is a good thing. I messaged Woodsrunner (RIP) on the FS forum a couple years back after he was talking about fertilizing Blackberries to draw Deer and he sent me some info. Fertilize them, honeysuckle and white oaks with 12-12-12 minimum up to 15-15-15 twice a year. I never got to use it as the property I was going to try it on was sold but he said this would draw in more Deer and have a positive effect on antler growth.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 24, 2023 5:01:41 GMT -5
This is wild plum or up in NCF we call it hog plum. They are found mostly in old grown up fields and fence rows and deer love them. Unfortunately they get ripe too early to hunt over but would be a good place to put a trail camera for scouting, especially on public land where you can't use corn as an attractant. You can also make an excellent jelly out it, one of my favorites. Attachments:
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 24, 2023 5:10:16 GMT -5
If you run a tractor mower over the blackberries before you fertilize them it helps. Raise the mower deck about as high as it will go, you don't want to scalp them.
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Post by bswiv on Jul 24, 2023 5:49:31 GMT -5
If you run a tractor mower over the blackberries before you fertilize them it helps. Raise the mower deck about as high as it will go, you don't want to scalp them. This works well for a lot of other plants too. One of the things we do that benefits our hunters is hold off mowing the roads until the first week of November. We've daylighted them all such that they act as sort of meadows rather than just trails through the woods and with mowing them only the one time a year they end up covered with all sorts of native grasses & forbs. We do keep the trees & invasives out of them during the year but beyond that we let everything run it's natural cycles. Kind of interesting to actually watch the progression of various plants, especially the flowers, as we go through the year. In fact......it's always a surprise to folks when we show them that from February through to November there is always some species, if not a great number of species of native plants flowering or actively seeding. Anyway......that November mowing is still early enough in the year to where we'll get a few weeks of new growth..........gives the guys what amounts to 16 miles of natural browse.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 24, 2023 7:02:55 GMT -5
If you are leaving the grass high in the summer and getting enough sunlight, you might think of trying to get a start of white clover. It would make a perennial food plot. You need the grass tall in the summer to protect it from the sun. If your farm is where I think it is it should have plenty of moisture in the lower spots.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 24, 2023 10:56:03 GMT -5
Early season/hotter in pine plantations are full of mushrooms and deer love them. I watched a yearling and doe eating them one afternoon. Yearling had one hanging out her mouth like a pacifier. LOL
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 24, 2023 10:59:54 GMT -5
This is wild plum or up in NCF we call it hog plum. They are found mostly in old grown up fields and fence rows and deer love them. Unfortunately they get ripe too early to hunt over but would be a good place to put a trail camera for scouting, especially on public land where you can't use corn as an attractant. You can also make an excellent jelly out it, one of my favorites. They sure are and make excellent jelly/jams too. We had a spot on one of my Georgia leases that had at least 100 trees in about a 2-3 acre area. Like you said they are gone before hunting season. Usually drop in July.
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Post by wayvis on Jul 24, 2023 14:36:08 GMT -5
I can't believe that no one has mentioned palmetto berries. In north fl. they ripen about the middle of bow season. If you have a good crop the deer and hogs will get of the corn and feed on them for a couple of weeks.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 24, 2023 15:48:42 GMT -5
There's a picture for the palmetto berries. I believe when they get real ripe(black) they ferment a little and the deer, bear and hogs get on them real hard. They might like a little buzz too. Attachments:
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 25, 2023 5:13:10 GMT -5
This one is hawthorn and they are dropping right now. Deer love them, in fact where I took this picture alongside a paved road the ground was stomped down with tracks. If I was hunting this property I would have a camera up. The fruit looks like little apples and to me they taste a little like apples. The tree looks like a wild plum from a distance and the bark looks like old mature persimmon just smaller scale. It grows on high sandy land, black-jack land. When I was a kid we picked them and my mother made jelly out of them. She called them mayhaws but as I grew older I knew it wasn't a true mayhaw like you found in Georgia. One it grew on high sandy land and true mayhaws came out of river and creek swamps. I ran it on the phone app and it came back Crataegus Azarolus, looked that up and it came back hawthorn. Attachments:
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 25, 2023 6:04:12 GMT -5
A little fertilizer, mainly nitrogen improves honeysuckle consumption by deer. Small pieces of sparkle berry wood or grape vines in your smoker is a good thing. I messaged Woodsrunner (RIP) on the FS forum a couple years back after he was talking about fertilizing Blackberries to draw Deer and he sent me some info. Fertilize them, honeysuckle and white oaks with 12-12-12 minimum up to 15-15-15 twice a year. I never got to use it as the property I was going to try it on was sold but he said this would draw in more Deer and have a positive effect on antler growth. I had the privilege or having a long phone conversation with him a few months before he passed. He was a wellspring of knowledge. I still think about and implement things he talked about. I have fertilized persimmons around my farm with buckets of chicken manure. Seemed to make a difference. I have a water oak growing on the edge of my pond. Its roots should be tapping into the pond and chickens roost in it every night and leave a lot of dropping. Between the infinite chicken poop and water, it is unreal how many acorns that tree makes every season. It never has a bad year. Before I started letting the dogs sleep outside, deer would slip into my yard and feed under it. Now the acorns will pile up until late fall. About that time the chickens shift to eating them and clean them all up. I have oaks all around the farm I need to be more religious about fertilizing.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 26, 2023 5:08:15 GMT -5
Smilax also known as greenbrier, cat claw vine, bamboo vine or a name we use "Backup Brier", if you get in them you will know why. There's several varieties of smilax and all good deer browse. They have very high protein early in the year, up to 30 percent. There's one variety that grows in open hammocks almost as a bush, if you find it and the deer don't have it browsed back you need to move on as there's not many deer there. The new growth on smilax is pretty good to snack on. It's pretty sweet until you get back to the older growth and then it's more bitter. Attachments:
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 26, 2023 11:41:34 GMT -5
Smilax also known as greenbrier, cat claw vine, bamboo vine or a name we use "Backup Brier", if you get in them you will know why. There's several varieties of smilax and all good deer browse. They have very high protein early in the year, up to 30 percent. There's one variety that grows in open hammocks almost as a bush, if you find it and the deer don't have it browsed back you need to move on as there's not many deer there. The new growth on smilax is pretty good to snack on. It's pretty sweet until you get back to the older growth and then it's more bitter. We use to weed wack the bigger stuff down. Deer definitely love the newer browse.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 26, 2023 12:42:26 GMT -5
Some batches of greenbriar taste better than others. The greenbriar that used to grow around our club camp tasted good in its new growth. The greenbriar on my farm doesn’t taste good even when its fresh. Good greenrbriar tastes like green beans.
Greenbriar is in the same family as sarsaparilla and greenbriar roots used to be the source of rootbeer in the east.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 26, 2023 13:37:46 GMT -5
Some batches of greenbriar taste better than others. The greenbriar that used to grow around our club camp tasted good in its new growth. The greenbriar on my farm doesn’t taste good even when its fresh. Good greenrbriar tastes like green beans. Greenbriar is in the same family as sarsaparilla and greenbriar roots used to be the source of rootbeer in the east. I wonder if smilax tastes different because there's several different types of smilax.
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