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Post by mapper on Sept 17, 2024 1:50:00 GMT -5
The link above is a pdf whistleblower report about trump shooting in butler pa, by Sen Josh Hawley.
It brings up very troubling questions, and when asked for documentation by secret service or DHS it has not been provided.
It is worth a read. So now that it has been 60 days, when will the report/hearing from the internal assurance review by the secret service be publicly released? When will the congressional report be availible? (Yes I am aware that the report released by the oversight comittee in 2015 took a year) it didn't inspire confidence either.
Citizens would like the answers that were promised by Director Rowe.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 17, 2024 5:44:04 GMT -5
So we do not know who the whistleblower is or if they even exist?
Both sides are rife with reports like these.
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Post by luapnor on Sept 17, 2024 6:55:27 GMT -5
At every turn, it is the state and not the public that you choose to protect.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 17, 2024 7:14:41 GMT -5
Take your blinders off.
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Post by mapper on Sept 17, 2024 9:30:24 GMT -5
As Ace Ventua would say Alrighty now... I understand that a report by a republican senator probably won't get a fair chance of "yeah, there is some problems in the agency" So until the bipartisan report on butler comes out I guess it is "move along, nothing to see here" right? So let's go back to the last bi partisan report in 2015.. Democrat Elijah Cummings had a big part in it.. In the linked summary there is a link to that report. 2015 bipartisan summary2015 bipartisan report pdf
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Post by throttle on Sept 17, 2024 9:39:54 GMT -5
As Ace Ventua would say Alrighty now... I understand that a report by a republican senator probably won't get a fair chance of "yeah, there is some problems in the agency" So until the bipartisan report on butler comes out I guess it is "move along, nothing to see here" right? So let's go back to the last bi partisan report in 2015.. Democrat Elijah Cummings had a big part in it.. In the linked summary there is a link to that report. 2015 bipartisan summary2015 bipartisan report pdf"Yeah, there is some problems in the agency"? In Butler, PA the secret service's failure is so egregious it appears they were on the shooter's side. No drones, no communication with local LE, no one on the obvious sniper's perch the roof was, no reaction to get Trump off the X when a suspicious person was first spotted, and not even when the shooter was spotted on the roof. None of this makes any sense without considering that someone in the SS was trying very hard and very obviously to help the assassin get shots on Trump. And the shooter being taken out so he can't testify and his background being scrubbed deepens the mystery.
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Post by mapper on Sept 17, 2024 9:58:20 GMT -5
When that level of disregard for basic procedures, from initial site survey line of sight considerations, high ground considerations, perimeter considerations, access considerations and stairways, communication considerations, personal considerations as far as agent height vs protected height, other drone and surveillance considerations, It does not matter who or what political party the protected person is, security is an illusion.
Remember after that at a harris rally a beauty salon was broken into and commandeered for use as a agent comfort zone..then the report of an agent breast feeding her child in a room at another event, it does not matter if it was a harris or a trump event..
Then followed by the golf course "we got lucky" on interior protocol..
But I guess it is a wizard of Oz "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" thing..
The secret service are experts in protection, and zero mission failures are expected. Just ask them..
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Post by throttle on Sept 17, 2024 17:15:27 GMT -5
When that level of disregard for basic procedures, from initial site survey line of sight considerations, high ground considerations, perimeter considerations, access considerations and stairways, communication considerations, personal considerations as far as agent height vs protected height, other drone and surveillance considerations, It does not matter who or what political party the protected person is, security is an illusion. Remember after that at a harris rally a beauty salon was broken into and commandeered for use as a agent comfort zone..then the report of an agent breast feeding her child in a room at another event, it does not matter if it was a harris or a trump event.. Then followed by the golf course "we got lucky" on interior protocol..
But I guess it is a wizard of Oz "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" thing.. The secret service are experts in protection, and zero mission failures are expected. Just ask them.. One man behind the curtain is Mayorkis, all butt hurt over being impeached. He's not doing his job on the border; it's no surprise the secret service has been corrupted too under his "leadership". What a despicable little weasel of a man.
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 18, 2024 1:03:52 GMT -5
Josh Hawley has unanswered questions?
You don't say. lol
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Post by mapper on Sept 18, 2024 1:32:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I keep forgetting here in the political forum, it only counts when a donkey representative, donkey senator or donkey appointee or executive asks questions or asks and has unanswered questions.
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 19, 2024 0:13:32 GMT -5
Sorry, I would have expected you to articulate your questions yourself rather than have them asked first by oppugning elephants.
Clearly, I was mistaken. As you said, this is the politics section, and my expectations are certainly worthy of scorn.
Well, that and those damned donkeys, of course!
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