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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 14, 2024 10:44:24 GMT -5
Congressional leaders have a deal in place to patch a nearly $3 billion shortfall on Department of Veterans Affairs funding that risks endangering benefits payments as soon as next month, but veterans advocates said they are reluctant to celebrate until the final details are worked out. “When we see votes that are yes and then the dollars are actually sent to the [Treasury Department], then that will relieve our sense of urgency,” said Pat Murray, legislative director for the Veterans of Foreign Wars. “A proposed solution is not enough, we need an actual solution.” VA officials have warned that because of increased medical care and benefits applications in recent months, the department’s budget is roughly $2.9 billion short for this fiscal year and about $12 billion short in projected fiscal 2025 needs. The funds for next year likely will be negotiated as part of a broader federal budget package to be completed sometime this fall. But VA leaders on Tuesday testified before the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee that without a solution to the other funding gap by Sept. 20, some benefits checks to veterans and dependents could be delayed in October. “This financial crisis will affect disability compensation, caregiver compensation, community care payouts, everything,” said Julia Mathis, legislative director for the American Legion. “Every day that we get closer to September 20 is another 24 hours of uncertainty for thousands of veterans whose financial lives depend on this.” Lawmakers on the House committee indicated Tuesday that they were working behind the scenes to help solve the problem, while at the same time expressing concerns that VA officials did not detect the funding shortfall sooner. Congressional sources on Wednesday confirmed House leaders will move forward with a measure introduced by Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Calif., which would cover the budget gap for VA operations this month. A vote is expected on the legislation early next week. That would give the Senate just a day or two to advance the legislation ahead of the Sept. 20 deadline. If a senator objects to the quick passage, it could push the final passage past that date or derail the whole measure.
“The VA needs more money,” said Brian Kelly, president of the Military Officers Association of America. “It doesn’t matter who you want to point the finger at for that, the fact is that our veterans need their benefits paid out.” www.marinecorpstimes.com/veterans/2024/09/11/congress-moves-to-fix-va-budget-gap-but-time-is-running-out/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 10:48:54 GMT -5
Anything necessary for our veterans should be an absolute priority
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Post by luapnor on Sept 14, 2024 11:36:28 GMT -5
Wtf has Biden and Kameltoes been doing for the last 4 years?
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 14, 2024 12:37:16 GMT -5
Wtf has Biden and Kameltoes been doing for the last 4 years? That may be the stupidest comment you've made lately. You're too dumb to notice that the pubs are holding up passage by attaching unrelated legislation. Are you sure your last name isn't Tuberville?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2024 7:44:42 GMT -5
Wtf has Biden and Kameltoes been doing for the last 4 years? They've been spending money flying in illegals and letting as many as they can get by with, get across the border. Those are facts. Hard to get everybody on board to spend money we don't have when this shit is going on. Veterans would rather the admin. cared about this Country rather than their benefits if they are real Veterans and not just anti-Trumpers bitching about the wrong things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2024 8:41:57 GMT -5
Veterans bills should be passed without any pork attached by either party
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 9:13:07 GMT -5
Veterans bills should be passed without any pork attached by either party Veteran bills (just like other bills) should be funded when they are passed. If you're so hot for the veterans why are you supporting a candidate who deliberately has his supporters attach a rider to the funding bill that has nothing to do with the funding? A candidate who only uses the Veterans for political gain. "Suckers and losers" Ken. "Suckers and losers!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2024 9:23:39 GMT -5
Robert the words and statements attributed to Trump have been twisted, bent, distorted and taken out of context so often by the left that I find it difficult to believe anything that is said unless I am privy to the entire conversation.
He is a turd without doubt but he is better than the alternative that we are being offered
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2024 9:28:09 GMT -5
There are more pressing needs in this Country now, thanks to Biden, than Veterans issues. His illegals are raping little girls and murdering people and also destroying communities. It's a shame some veterans aren't concerned more about that than their personal problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2024 9:28:41 GMT -5
And yes I have been in support of veterans all of my life. I can’t believe that we spend so much money on other things and not take top class care of our veterans.
Sadly I am in the process of watching another friend and associate succumbing to Agent Orange right now. A hard working talented welder can hardly get out of bed. He has been struggling for many many years and now is near the end
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2024 9:30:22 GMT -5
There should never be any more pressing issues than taking care of the veterans who have protected our liberties
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 10:14:02 GMT -5
There should never be any more pressing issues than taking care of the veterans who have protected our liberties Tell that to your buddy Kemper. And there are other pressing issues. Not just the vets are getting screwed by unfunded bills being passed so congress can pat themselves on the back while telling their constituents what wonderful things they have done. However they neglect telling them they won't give the responsible agencies the funds to do so. In this case it's very plain the pubs are holding up passage of funding for a bill they helped pass and took credit for.
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Post by garycoleco on Sept 15, 2024 10:57:37 GMT -5
The timing for fake government help is always impeccable
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 15, 2024 11:04:13 GMT -5
Wtf has Biden and Kameltoes been doing for the last 4 years? That may be the stupidest comment you've made lately. You're too dumb to notice that the pubs are holding up passage by attaching unrelated legislation. Are you sure your last name isn't Tuberville? Sounds a lot like what the democrats do to submarine an otherwise good bill too. Politicians suck. Always have and always will. All of them. They all participate in it. Why can’t we have single issue bills that get voted up or down on their own merit, rather than the crazy pork laden crap they always vote on?
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 15, 2024 11:09:36 GMT -5
Veterans bills should be passed without any pork attached by either party Veteran bills (just like other bills) should be funded when they are passed. If you're so hot for the veterans why are you supporting a candidate who deliberately has his supporters attach a rider to the funding bill that has nothing to do with the funding? A candidate who only uses the Veterans for political gain. "Suckers and losers" Ken. "Suckers and losers! Thats a moronic statement. The pork matters. Always. That’s why it needs to go. Would you be okay with the passage of a V.A. funding bill that also had a bill attached that outlawed presidential term limits? If so, you’re a fool.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 12:21:10 GMT -5
Veteran bills (just like other bills) should be funded when they are passed. If you're so hot for the veterans why are you supporting a candidate who deliberately has his supporters attach a rider to the funding bill that has nothing to do with the funding? A candidate who only uses the Veterans for political gain. "Suckers and losers" Ken. "Suckers and losers! Thats a moronic statement. The pork matters. Always. That’s why it needs to go. Would you be okay with the passage of a V.A. funding bill that also had a bill attached that outlawed presidential term limits? If so, you’re a fool. Why would you even ask that question? Of course I wouldn't. To suggest I would and imply I'm a "fool" is pretty par for the course for some on here.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 12:25:42 GMT -5
That may be the stupidest comment you've made lately. You're too dumb to notice that the pubs are holding up passage by attaching unrelated legislation. Are you sure your last name isn't Tuberville? Sounds a lot like what the democrats do to submarine an otherwise good bill too. Does that justify the actions by the pubs in this case? Of course not. Politicians suck. Always have and always will. All of them. They all participate in it.
Does this make it ok? Why can’t we have single issue bills that get voted up or down on their own merit, rather than the crazy pork laden crap they always vote on? I wish I knew. I'm in complete agreement.
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 15, 2024 13:10:13 GMT -5
Thats a moronic statement. The pork matters. Always. That’s why it needs to go. Would you be okay with the passage of a V.A. funding bill that also had a bill attached that outlawed presidential term limits? If so, you’re a fool. Why would you even ask that question? Of course I wouldn't. To suggest I would and imply I'm a "fool" is pretty par for the course for some on here. I didn’t imply that you’re a fool. I said that if you blindly support any bill to fund the V.A. without considering what else was tacked onto it, you’d be a fool. I did say that your mandate to approve any bill with V.A. funding in it was moronic, for the same reason. Apparently, we agree that the pork attached to any bill matters. It’s often used to kill otherwise good bills. Both parties do it to keep the other from being able to claim an achievement on the campaign trail. It’s all of us who pay the price for their tactics. I don’t know the answer on how to stop it. Until it does though, we will all continue to lose out on the progress they could be making for our country.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 13:14:06 GMT -5
Why would you even ask that question? Of course I wouldn't. To suggest I would and imply I'm a "fool" is pretty par for the course for some on here. I didn’t imply that you’re a fool. I said that if you blindly support any bill to fund the V.A. without considering what else was tacked onto it, you’d be a fool. I did say that your mandate to approve any bill with V.A. funding in it was moronic, for the same reason. Apparently, we agree that the pork attached to any bill matters. It’s often used to kill otherwise good bills. Both parties do it to keep the other from being able to claim an achievement on the campaign trail. It’s all of us who pay the price for their tactics. I don’t know the answer on how to stop it. Until it does though, we will all continue to lose out on the progress they could be making for our country. If we ever meet, I'll buy the beer.
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 15, 2024 13:14:39 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like what the democrats do to submarine an otherwise good bill too. Does that justify the actions by the pubs in this case? Of course not. Politicians suck. Always have and always will. All of them. They all participate in it.
Does this make it ok? Why can’t we have single issue Never said it justified anything. bills that get voted up or down on their own merit, rather than the crazy pork laden crap they always vote on? I wish I knew. I'm in complete agreement. Never said it was okay for the pubs to do it. I don’t think it’s okay for either party to do it. Some here have sure enjoyed using it as a cudgel though by ignoring the pork that was voted against in a bill that would have otherwise enjoyed bipartisan support. I’m sure you’ve seen it happen here too.
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Post by luapnor on Sept 15, 2024 13:33:26 GMT -5
Implication not required
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Post by mapper on Sept 15, 2024 14:47:58 GMT -5
Apparently, we agree that the pork attached to any bill matters. It’s often used to kill otherwise good bills. Both parties do it to keep the other from being able to claim an achievement on the campaign trail. It’s all of us who pay the price for their tactics. I don’t know the answer on how to stop it. Until it does though, we will all continue to lose out on the progress they could be making for our country. Pay attention to amendments on bills and votes on bills. Read the bills and amendments and comittee substitutes. If your representative or senator does not support your beliefs after reading bills and votes, they are NOT worthy of being your representative. Government is something that needs following, don't rely on others to do it.
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Post by meateater on Sept 16, 2024 16:06:39 GMT -5
so we are 2.9 billion short for our veterans, sorry ukraine the usa is gonna be a little short this month, beg for some more money from your nextdoor neighbors since they should be paying the most anyway. all democrats and most republicans still vote to use our tax dollars for a proxy war but cant come together for its own people, whats new. disgusting people in our government.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2024 16:11:20 GMT -5
We need legislation that limits all bills to being “single action bills”.
Enough of tacking garbage into good legislation
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