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Post by walkerdog on Jul 23, 2023 17:22:32 GMT -5
Resident fees in almost all states are ridiculous low so it shouldn't even be a consideration. Before I turned 65 I bought the annual Gold Sportsman for about $100.00. Offer a senior Gold Sportsman for about $25.00 and it would be a good deal for all concerned. Give Ron D and Niki F something else to argue about. Nothing harder to eliminate than a supposed entitlement. Why the heck are your bitching about exempt hunters and the perks they get when 65 and older, when you your self are over 65 and can enjoy being exempt from license fees and some of the quota requirements. wtf? As far as non residents over 65, they are still required to purchase license to hunt and fish. If you want make an impact, raise their turkey permit fees. Take it out on them, don't take it out on residents over 65 who received a benefit from the State of Florida. The impact of raising NR fees would be something, but probably not as significant as you imagine. Making a reduced fee license for 65+ would likely be quite a bit larger revenue stream. I think it’s a great idea. Make it cheap but not free. But it will never happen, because too many old folks would squawk until the cows come home and AARP would throw a fit.
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 23, 2023 17:38:59 GMT -5
Very easy to understand why undercounts of those hunting benefit FWC. Makes them look like they are doing a much better job than they actually are when including the now available harvest reports. True success ratio is the bottom line pure and simple. Requiring everyone to have at least a free annual license would eliminate the need for Resourch Management and IBM super computers. I'm smelling some politics involved. Imagine that. What does FWC budget for this Resource Management contract?? Being you are the undercover FWC/Resourch Management forum plant you should know. Lol😁 We aren't going to agree on this so take the last word. Wayne? A plant? 🤣🤣🤣 Clearly, you’re not acquainted with Wayne. Even if all you’d ever done was read his posts on the old forum, you should be better informed about his feelings on the subject than you seem to be. Imagine that! Accusing someone you don’t know anything about of being a plant!🙄
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 23, 2023 17:50:21 GMT -5
I'm so ashamed. 😱
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Post by wayvis on Jul 24, 2023 9:23:37 GMT -5
Not sure if this is tongue in cheek.......doesn't really matter cause I'm an old fart just like you and have thick skin.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 24, 2023 12:28:52 GMT -5
Of course it was tongue in cheek. I wasn't the least bit embarrassed.
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Post by wayvis on Jul 24, 2023 14:21:12 GMT -5
Yea that's what I figured. Your too old and set in your ways to be embarrassed.
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Post by Stumpy on Jul 24, 2023 15:48:21 GMT -5
The impact of raising NR fees would be something, but probably not as significant as you imagine. Making a reduced fee license for 65+ would likely be quite a bit larger revenue stream. I think it’s a great idea. Make it cheap but not free. But it will never happen, because too many old folks would squawk until the cows come home and AARP would throw a fit. If there a need for an increase in revenue, then let the fwc make the hikers, horse back riders, dog walker jeep driving Joe public buy a management stamp until there're 65 years old. Buy the way a $400 non resident turkey stamp is what the fwc should be charging for Osceola hunts.
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Post by swampdog on Jul 24, 2023 16:05:02 GMT -5
We simply need a reciprocity fee so all the NRs (we and they) pay the fair amount. Tons of NR folks come here in the winter to fill their freezers with fish and in the spring to fill their Osceola tag. Our elected folks think they spend tons of money on tourist attractions and buying food and eating out, so they believe the entire economy benefits. Not sure about this, but we spend on food and restaurants when we hunt/fish other states.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 24, 2023 17:57:52 GMT -5
A few states tried the receprocy route and by the time they were done trying to one up each other it had become a joke. At the very least Florida should not allow the cheap 10 day non-res license eligible to purchase the turkey license. I have yet to find another state that does this.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 24, 2023 18:07:55 GMT -5
Yea that's what I figured. Your too old and set in your ways to be embarrassed. Usually when someone adds LOL and a smiley face at the end of a sentence it is understood it is tongue in cheek. Sometimes you old geezers need instructions in this modern forum stuff. Lol 😂.
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Post by meateater on Jul 25, 2023 10:20:34 GMT -5
The impact of raising NR fees would be something, but probably not as significant as you imagine. Making a reduced fee license for 65+ would likely be quite a bit larger revenue stream. I think it’s a great idea. Make it cheap but not free. But it will never happen, because too many old folks would squawk until the cows come home and AARP would throw a fit. If there a need for an increase in revenue, then let the fwc make the hikers, horse back riders, dog walker jeep driving Joe public buy a management stamp until there're 65 years old. Buy the way a $400 non resident turkey stamp is what the fwc should be charging for Osceola hunts. where are all these old farts hunting for free,, cause i never see them , deer or turkey season.
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Post by swampdog on Jul 25, 2023 11:55:30 GMT -5
Oh but I’ve seen you meat. The older I’ve gotten the more ninja I’ve become. For example I saw you driving out of the woods the other day as I was driving in. Okay, so I slept in and went late…😉
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Post by wayvis on Jul 26, 2023 14:30:15 GMT -5
Maybe Joekat can inform us on where they all hunt. As for me I hunt on a lease. No opened WMA closer to me than 45 miles. Don't care about spending 2 hours on the road every time I hunt, which is 4-5 times a week. Couldn't stand to only hunter a local WMA a few days every 4-6 years. I don't even apply for quota hunts.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 27, 2023 6:29:49 GMT -5
I'll bet he could "guess" but he might think this subject had been run into the ground so he probably won't. Rumor is he lives within 5 miles of a new WMA so he is concerned with FWC's lack of transparency on several issues such as true harvest statistics and true hunter numbers. He often wonders who verifies what this Resource Management company spouts as gospel. Maybe they make very expensive "guesses" also - but they do use a big computer.
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Post by JS84 on Jul 27, 2023 8:16:54 GMT -5
Yall crack me up. Thank you for the good info Cad on the except license/card. Stumpy is also spot on about the Database police and the linkable customer information.
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