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Post by joekat46 on Jul 20, 2023 10:09:59 GMT -5
Wife told me a news flash on her computer said red grouper and amberjack as an emergency closure for recreational fisherman. Didn't see it. I'll look it up on the FWC site.
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Post by cadman on Jul 20, 2023 11:23:10 GMT -5
I did not know of the certificate. I will go online and apply. Thanks Cadman. Just go to where you buy a license and it is one of the options. You can even get it laminated for a few bucks. They also offer reef fish and other free over 65 permits there.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 20, 2023 11:45:49 GMT -5
I went to the FWC site and didn't see it. I went to my licence profile and I had it, guess I did it when I turned 65. That's part of getting old, CRS.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 20, 2023 11:54:16 GMT -5
Fish Rules is a phone app that keeps you up to date on what the legal status is of what you're fishing for. You locate yourself on the map and it tells you what's legal at that particular place. It also has pictures of the fish to help in identification. You can download it to use if you run out of cell service.
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Post by richm on Jul 20, 2023 13:17:15 GMT -5
Fish Rules is a phone app that keeps you up to date on what the legal status is of what you're fishing for. You locate yourself on the map and it tells you what's legal at that particular place. It also has pictures of the fish to help in identification. You can download it to use if you run out of cell service. Yes, I have that one. Was considering heading to the gulf when they opened AJ fishing. Why I was asking. Looked at FWC and they still have August 1 opener. Will keep an eye on it.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 20, 2023 13:46:10 GMT -5
Good information here. Thanks.
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Post by swampdog on Jul 20, 2023 16:35:57 GMT -5
Thanks Cad for mentioning the exempt card. I got mine when I hit the magic age and it expires in about 20 years. Iβm hoping to be around to renew itπ
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 20, 2023 17:22:36 GMT -5
Just in case any new 65er is confused as long as you are permanent resident you are an exempt. Most use a driver's license for proof. Be nice if this free certification Cad describes would be an annual renewable requirement. At least FWC would get reliable data. Back of my mind is thinking there may be a 6 month permanent residency requirement for new arrivals involved but not sure but worth a quick look. I'm sure someone will know. Date on Declaration of Domicile maybe??
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Post by Stumpy on Jul 20, 2023 18:48:23 GMT -5
If your 65 and use the gooutdoorsflorida.com to apply for non exempt quota permits and such, you have the same user account number as when you were purchasing licenses. The FWC should be picking up your data from the web site. Reporting a harvest will also pick up your account number. The reef fish requirements also picks up your number and data. If you get checked by the game warden, your number is recorded. Don't think they don't know who is out there, they can run you tag and see your data. You can run but you can't hide from the data base police.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 20, 2023 19:05:09 GMT -5
I doubt if they account for half the exempts. Move down from Ohio at age 65. Establish legal residency and go hunt a few no check station romp and stomp WMAs or private land. Unless successful for π¦ or π¦ nobody knows you were even there. Fishing freebies even worse for any accountability. Everybody needs a license even if it has to be a free one to keep everyone happy.
Undercounting actual hunter numbers would have the benefit of making the reported harvest statistics look better than they truly are. If an estimated 100 hunters claimed 20 π¦ in the call in system that's a 20% success rate. Not too bad. If the actual number hunting was really 200 hunters that 20 π¦ claimed is a 10% success rate. Pretty mediocre. If nothing else a great conspiracy theory. You can bet your butt those estimated hunter numbers aren't overestimated.
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Post by wayvis on Jul 20, 2023 22:00:29 GMT -5
I doubt if they account for half the exempts. Move down from Ohio at age 65. Establish legal residency and go hunt a few no check station romp and stomp WMAs or private land. Unless successful for π¦ or π¦ nobody knows you were even there. Fishing freebies even worse for any accountability. Everybody needs a license even if it has to be a free one to keep everyone happy. Undercounting actual hunter numbers would have the benefit of making the reported harvest statistics look better than they truly are. If an estimated 100 hunters claimed 20 π¦ in the call in system that's a 20% success rate. Not too bad. If the actual number hunting was really 200 hunters that 20 π¦ claimed is a 10% success rate. Pretty mediocre. If nothing else a great conspiracy theory. You can bet your butt those estimated hunter numbers aren't overestimated. Nice try but not cigar. The call-in system is used to report harvest. So, if 100 hunters called it they would be reporting 100 deer. Your way to hung up on counting every individual hunter and every deer that is harvested. It's never going to happen. It would be great if we could get 80% of hunters to report their harvest. All the data that's in the 2022-2023 survey comes from just 7,108 hunters that actually hunted deer. Responsive Management did 11,246 interviews, but only 7,108 hunters actually hunted deer. This indicates to me, and I may be wrong that 37% of license holders eligible to hunt deer did not. From these numbers and the total estimated deer hunter numbers of approximately 135,000 only about 8% of license deer hunters were interviewed. So other than to get fedral money there is no reason to count every hunter. "Responsive Management obtained the database of Florida deer hunters, including nonresidents, from the FWC, which consisted of any license that allowed deer hunting in the 2022-2023 seasons. (Note that Responsive Management deleted the database from its database system at the conclusion of the survey; Responsive Management does not maintain hunter license samples.) Responsive Management obtained 11,256 completed interviews with license holders eligible to hunt deer, of which 7,108 hunted deer. The analysis of data was performed using IBM SPSS Statistics as well as proprietary software developed by Responsive Management."
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 21, 2023 10:28:22 GMT -5
Very easy to understand why undercounts of those hunting benefit FWC. Makes them look like they are doing a much better job than they actually are when including the now available harvest reports. True success ratio is the bottom line pure and simple. Requiring everyone to have at least a free annual license would eliminate the need for Resourch Management and IBM super computers. I'm smelling some politics involved. Imagine that. What does FWC budget for this Resource Management contract?? Being you are the undercover FWC/Resourch Management forum plant you should know. Lolπ We aren't going to agree on this so take the last word.
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Post by saltybum on Jul 21, 2023 13:39:39 GMT -5
I've been exempt for four years now and every year go down the list of management areas checking harvest reports and the vast majority are "NO EXEMPTIONS" get in the lottery like everybody else. The ones that allow exempt hunters are either too far away for me or woods I have no desire to be in during a deer season with the idiots out there. I've call FWC and inquired about possibly gaining points when not drawn being a 100% disabled vet who might have too many chances left to get drawn for a hunt. Truth is they really don't care me thinks. I've been living in central Florida since 1955 and hate what this beautiful state has become. Glad I got to enjoy it when was still pretty wild. As mentioned earlier about reporting harvest along with poachers. IF YOU DON"T REPORT VIOLATORS YOU"RE NO BETTER TAHN THEY ARE! Chicken shit in my opinion. I currently have eight FWC numbers (half are officers personal numbers) saved in my phone depending on where I am and will report scum bags in a heart beat. They are thieves and should be treated as such.
I don't agree with a lot of the hunting or fishing regs. asw most are too little for too long and then too much too late. Except red snapper which is political corruption period.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 21, 2023 14:52:01 GMT -5
I'm almost 77 and should have 7 preference points for next turkey season. I'm hoping to make a good choice since I'm realistic to know my quota days are numbered when these 7 points are exhausted. The redraw system needs a definite tweaking but I'm betting that never happens. Good luck π Add - I have mixed feelings on the No Exemption WMAs. Before I earned my exempt status I would never apply for a WMA that allowed exempts. Greedy I guess. Using points on a WMA and not knowing how many would be there seemed like a shot in the dark.
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Post by wayvis on Jul 21, 2023 20:58:00 GMT -5
Just for you Joekat
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