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Aug 18, 2024 21:41:42 GMT -5
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 18, 2024 21:41:42 GMT -5
Why do some successful musicians change their music then the new stuff sucks?
Bob Seger comes to mind. His old stuff was great. The new stuff he tried just wasn’t good
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Aug 19, 2024 5:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by garycoleco on Aug 19, 2024 5:43:03 GMT -5
Why do some successful musicians change their music then the new stuff sucks? Bob Seger comes to mind. His old stuff was great. The new stuff he tried just wasn’t good Struggle brings out the best in humans. Seger hasn't struggled in 5 decades
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Post by bswiv on Aug 19, 2024 6:01:32 GMT -5
Why do some successful musicians change their music then the new stuff sucks? Bob Seger comes to mind. His old stuff was great. The new stuff he tried just wasn’t good Why do we care? Not being flippant but rather questioning from the perspective of what they do being a "job" or a "vocation" or a way of making a living. Nothing special about them any more than there is about a mechanic or a brick layer or a attorney. Either they get better, the keep up, they figure out how to serve the market.....or.....they pull a Sears and go bust. Nothing special in it......nothing at all.
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Post by gardawg on Aug 19, 2024 6:29:15 GMT -5
Their Muse is active in their younger years but often grows silent as they age. It's a business so their product suffers but is still profitable. It's not like anyone is making you listen to it.
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Post by gardawg on Aug 19, 2024 6:35:35 GMT -5
Nothing special in it......nothing at all. art is inspirational ... I've never had a transcendent watching someone laying bricks ... but listening to Chopin's Nocturne in B flat minor takes me to another realm artists are special ... they are conduits to a higher plane of consciousness
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 19, 2024 6:59:01 GMT -5
I had a couple of Guatemalans laying brick in my backyard last week. They had headphones on. I asked what they were listening to and they both replied, "Nocturne in B Flat minor".
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 19, 2024 7:16:53 GMT -5
Musicians are special. It’s an art
My partner started one of the presently most popular rock bands in the world. I was on the phone with him once and was listening to classical music in the background. I said to him that I didn’t know that he listened to that music. He said he didn’t listen to it. Then stopped playing the piano.
Music is a gift. Musicians are definitely special people
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Post by bswiv on Aug 19, 2024 7:20:20 GMT -5
Nothing special in it......nothing at all. art is inspirational ... I've never had a transcendent watching someone laying bricks ... but listening to Chopin's Nocturne in B flat minor takes me to another realm artists are special ... they are conduits to a higher plane of consciousness To say "art is inspirational" leaves unexpressed whether you think other things in life are and can be? To watch a man work with his hands, efficiently, thoughtfully, with purpose and competence, then to note the look of satisfaction on his face at the thing he's working on......that is fundamentally inspirational. A child chasing a butterfly.........the first crisp morning in the fall......I can go on. We've been taught, conditioned, ( indoctrinated by the Art Industrial Complex? ) to......well............think art is something other, something fundamentally different than any of the other myriad of social/physical/psychological interactions that animate and help fulfill our lives. Odd how it is that we will call a well made, functional piece of furniture, one crafted from good wood and suited to its function a "work of art".......as if it were insufficient to ascribe the credit, the honor, the respect due to the creator of a "chair". And no.......I am not being argumentative. We do have a "Art Industrial Complex".....one that feeds off of our tax dollars, with those approved being seen and those unapproved being unseen. More than that.......the subsidization of "approved" and "trained" and all the rest with our tax dollars denigrates and cheapens the value of the individual who creates something pleasing for themselves. How many the millions of small pieces of "art" go into the trash as the old pass on or as a child grows......and yet somehow.....we are to pay for the approved, to pay stipends to "artists", as if the creator of what has just been heaped onto the trash bin of mankind was not a "artist"...... Rant over..................
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Post by bswiv on Aug 19, 2024 7:28:14 GMT -5
Musicians are special. It’s an art My partner started one of the presently most popular rock bands in the world. I was on the phone with him once and was listening to classical music in the background. I said to him that I didn’t know that he listened to that music. He said he didn’t listen to it. Then stopped playing the piano. Music is a gift. Musicians are definitely special people 10,000 hours and a genetic predisposition where they hear and feel sensations more acutely and accurately than most, where their brains recognize patters extremely well......and more. If that makes them "special" so be it........ Yet.....I would note that precisely those physical attributes would have been useful to a early primate seeking survival.................
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Post by bswiv on Aug 19, 2024 7:28:48 GMT -5
Oh.......and yes.......had a little more coffee than normal this morning..............!!!!
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Aug 19, 2024 7:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 19, 2024 7:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by gardawg on Aug 19, 2024 7:55:12 GMT -5
it's comforting to know that any time I want the opinion of a grumpy old man I can rely on this forum ...
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Post by gardawg on Aug 19, 2024 8:00:35 GMT -5
Oh and for some reason I like to engage in coitus while listening to music not while looking at a piece of furniture. It just isn't quite the same.
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Post by bswiv on Aug 19, 2024 8:18:39 GMT -5
it's comforting to know that any time I want the opinion of a grumpy old man I can rely on this forum ... I'm actually quite happy.....almost always......one of my continuing joys being poking the bear........... And.......being serious......as a child raised by parents educated as teachers, parents who instilled some odd ideas about what it is to do good, among those being to change one's own mind based on better information from someone else and to appreciate the good that person has done by helping along that path, it remains a satisfaction to poke about things and see if I can help someone else....... Which....oddly.....most folks seem to hate. Seems that what we should hate ( detest is a better word ) is those who just don't care enough to politely and patiently and when there is no economic upside for them take a few minuets and share what they have learned so that we can get better. Never will understand the inconsistency in that....... Oh......did I mention I was happy? Especially so this morning as there were enough shrimp in the traps for ceviche tonight and Louann just headed off to book club......so once I work out I can get a nice nap with a book.
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Post by gardawg on Aug 19, 2024 8:33:08 GMT -5
it's comforting to know that any time I want the opinion of a grumpy old man I can rely on this forum ... I'm actually quite happy.....almost always..... So why did you think I was referring to you?
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