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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 14, 2024 16:45:50 GMT -5
Vance:
"Ohio Sen. JD Vance slammed the timing of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s retirement from a more-than-two-decades-long military career as a means of avoiding a deployment to Iraq on Wednesday, calling it “stolen valor garbage” and testing a new line of attack on the newly minted Democratic vice presidential contender."
"Vance invoked the term “stolen valor,” which describes a person who has lied about or misrepresented their military service, though Walz has never claimed he was a combat veteran. The attack the Trump campaign is deploying describes Walz’s retirement before his unit was called up to serve a deployment in Iraq as “stolen valor”
"Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, who served in Afghanistan as an Army officer, sprang to Walz’s defense Wednesday following Vance’s “stolen valor” comments."
“Anybody who is willing to raise their hand, to put on a uniform of this country — especially when you consider a small percentage of our population has ever done that — they deserve our most respect. That includes JD Vance, Corporal JD Vance, and that includes Sergeant Major Tim Walz,” Moore said on MSNBC, referring to the vice presidential candidates by their respective military ranks. “And I think JD Vance knows as being a corporal that you don’t get to sergeant major just because. You get to sergeant major because you’ve served the country.”
“I just don’t know if that’s necessarily the hill JD Vance wants to climb,” Moore said of Vance’s newfound focus on Walz’s 24-year military record."
"The governor has openly acknowledged never facing combat during his 24 years of service."
Walz:
" I firmly believe that you should never denigrate another person’s service record. Anyone brave enough to put on that uniform for our great country—including my opponent—I just have a few simple words: Thank you for your service and sacrifice,” he said."
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 14, 2024 16:54:33 GMT -5
When caught in a lie he admitted he never saw combat
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Post by walkerdog on Aug 14, 2024 16:57:54 GMT -5
#NotMyCSM was what Waltz’s direct supervisor said of Waltz’s claim of that rank.
I’ll take his word for it and leave it at that.
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Post by misterjr on Aug 14, 2024 17:01:27 GMT -5
Every time Vance opens his mouth, his approval rating drops a few more points. He is turning into a liability.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 14, 2024 19:19:05 GMT -5
Walz has claimed he was in a combat zone... End of story. Sounds like it fits the definition of stolen valor.
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Post by jsd on Aug 14, 2024 19:23:45 GMT -5
Waltz lied about being in a combat zone and the media runs to cover for him. Despicable.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 14, 2024 19:24:55 GMT -5
Walz has claimed he was in a combat zone... End of story. Sounds like it fits the definition of stolen valor. There are too many heroes that spent time in the line of fire that deserve our gratitude and respect. His manipulation of the truth lessens the sacrifice that many of our military personnel have made. We all owe our true heroes more than we can ever repay
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 14, 2024 19:26:26 GMT -5
🇺🇸 May God Bless Our Warriors 🇺🇸
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 14, 2024 20:37:57 GMT -5
He served his country for 24 years. I served zero. I’ll trust the word of people who have served.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 20:39:32 GMT -5
Ole jd was a friggin reporter in the military...not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 14, 2024 20:53:54 GMT -5
Ole jd was a friggin reporter in the military...not that there is anything wrong with that. He served , I didn’t. His opinion will be taken into consideration.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 14, 2024 23:55:19 GMT -5
Everyone in that served helped the country
But no one should distort tt
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Post by bswiv on Aug 15, 2024 4:40:44 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about policy at the level of power we are discussing. That Walz puffed something up or got in a hurry to make a point someplace is both expected and should be expected to be called out in the modern environment.
If there is a test to apply to it it would be whether he owns it or not. Own it. Explain it. Move on. People can deal with that.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 15, 2024 5:44:45 GMT -5
He owned it and said it was an error.
I don't question a man's service, especially one who served 24 years.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 15, 2024 5:59:44 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about policy at the level of power we are discussing. That Walz puffed something up or got in a hurry to make a point someplace is both expected and should be expected to be called out in the modern environment. If there is a test to apply to it it would be whether he owns it or not. Own it. Explain it. Move on. People can deal with that. You mean like issuing a curfew during COVID and having cops walk the streets like thugs shooting paintballs at citizens for standing in their doorway?? Walz is a piece of shit, just like admitting you would fire someone for not getting the vaxx if it affected your income.
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