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Post by bullfrog on Jul 31, 2024 10:20:56 GMT -5
… stop and think about the military logistics of what Israel just did.
The assassination was reportedly an airstrike conducted in Tehran. That would mean that Israel has the capabilities to get a jet to Iran 1,200 miles away, pinpoint a missile anywhere they want in Iran’s capital, and come home again without any retaliation. Likely without even showing up on Iran’s literal radar.
Amazing. Israel should flex that muscle some more and pick off a few other high value targets in the same manner. Make it painfully clear to Iran that Israel can destroy them at any time of their choosing.
BTW, haven’t heard anything about Iran’s nuclear program since Israel’s airstrikes several months ago. Did Israel take down more than Iran was willing to admit?
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 31, 2024 10:25:05 GMT -5
I don't think we will ever know in all honesty. Israel isn't saying anything to fan the flames and Iran would have serious egg on their face if they admitted it.
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Post by misterjr on Jul 31, 2024 10:33:26 GMT -5
Israel has regional escalation as the Jewish state fights two battles — against Palestinian militant group Hamas in Gaza to the south and Hezbollah, a powerful Iranian proxy, in Lebanon to the north.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 31, 2024 10:36:32 GMT -5
Israel is fighting Iran basically. Hezbollah and Hamas are just proxy.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 31, 2024 11:15:05 GMT -5
Isnt this the dude that organized the Beirut Marine barracks bombing in the 80's killing 250+ American GIs? Likely no loss to humanity. I have a hunch this guy was set up by Iran to die. Something too clean about it. What is Iran's response going to be? Another orchestrated but "thwarted" missile and drone attack on Israel, where Israel was forewarned about what was going to happen? If this isnt staged, then WW3 is right around the corner as this will reach MAD level pretty rapidly.
Israel is preparing to invade Lebanon soon.
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Post by richm on Jul 31, 2024 11:15:31 GMT -5
And they know it.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 31, 2024 11:23:44 GMT -5
Isnt this the dude that organized the Beirut Marine barracks bombing in the 80's killing 250+ American GIs? Likely no loss to humanity. I have a hunch this guy was set up by Iran to die. Something too clean about it. What is Iran's response going to be? Another orchestrated but "thwarted" missile and drone attack on Israel, where Israel was forewarned about what was going to happen? If this isnt staged, then WW3 is right around the corner as this will reach MAD level pretty rapidly.
Israel is preparing to invade Lebanon soon.
Option 1: it was staged. Option 2: it was not staged and Iran goes ape because Israel conducted an airstrike on their capital. Option 3 (which is what I think is the truth): is was not staged and Israel has demonstrated such superior capabilities that Iran cynically understands they have to just take it. Compare and contrast. Israel can hit an enemy capital 1,200 miles away with complete impunity. The apple to apple military comparison between Israel and Iran is that disparate. Iran absolutely cannot win a conventional war against Israel. Yet terrorists on ATVs and dirtbikes can wipe out 1,200 Israelis in a few hours by simply overrunning border checkpoints. The Western powers are great at staying ahead for the purposes of direct military confrontations, but terrible at fighting insurgencies. |
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Post by meateater on Jul 31, 2024 11:45:25 GMT -5
Isnt this the dude that organized the Beirut Marine barracks bombing in the 80's killing 250+ American GIs? Likely no loss to humanity. I have a hunch this guy was set up by Iran to die. Something too clean about it. What is Iran's response going to be? Another orchestrated but "thwarted" missile and drone attack on Israel, where Israel was forewarned about what was going to happen? If this isnt staged, then WW3 is right around the corner as this will reach MAD level pretty rapidly.
Israel is preparing to invade Lebanon soon.
Option 1: it was staged. Option 2: it was not staged and Iran goes ape because Israel conducted an airstrike on their capital. Option 3 (which is what I think is the truth): is was not staged and Israel has demonstrated such superior capabilities that Iran cynically understands they have to just take it. Compare and contrast. Israel can hit an enemy capital 1,200 miles away with complete impunity. The apple to apple military comparison between Israel and Iran is that disparate. Iran absolutely cannot win a conventional war against Israel. Yet terrorists on ATVs and dirtbikes can wipe out 1,200 Israelis in a few hours by simply overrunning border checkpoints. The Western powers are great at staying ahead for the purposes of direct military confrontations, but terrible at fighting insurgencies. option 3 for me. what happened to israel on october 7th could just as easy happen here. probably easier and with more casualties. |
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Post by meateater on Jul 31, 2024 11:46:44 GMT -5
Israel is fighting Iran basically. Hezbollah and Hamas are just proxy. no shit putin.  |
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 31, 2024 12:27:44 GMT -5
I'm gonna get flamed for this I'm sure but so be it. I have very little doubt that there was some U.S. involvement. Coukd be as simple as supplying the missile to having operatives on the ground in Tehran to paint the missile. In my spare time I tend to track U.S. and ally aircraft around the world. Kinda a useless boring hobby that passes ti.e when I'm board at work. Anyway I kinda figured something was going on yesterday with the amount of hardware the U.S. and U.K. were moving around. A couple of flights turned their transponders off deep into Jordanian airspace. Now I do not want a war. I think poor young men die for the benefit of so.e wealthy price with no stake in the game except his company stock. But Iran has been supporting many of these pestering organizations for years. Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, et al. So a part of me is kinda perfectly OK with the message being sent to Tehran that we can strike your ass too. This action IMHO is a hell of a lot better than. Bombing and starving a bunch of poor Gazans (who unfortunately support the asshole killed). I'm far from being a Zion8st but Israel got this one right. And if Iran wants to play then by all means jump when you feel froggy. And that goes for those backstabbing Putin cocksuckers in Turkei.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 31, 2024 12:28:56 GMT -5
Autocorrect and fat fingers make typing on this ph9ne such a chore
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Post by johngalt on Jul 31, 2024 14:07:40 GMT -5
I would be surprised if it was an air strike in Iran.
Sounds like a ground operation. But a very successful one!👍
As far as tracking military activity, all military aircraft carry ADS-B
but mostly keep it off. When it is activated it’s because they want everyone to know about them.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 31, 2024 15:59:01 GMT -5
I would be surprised if it was an air strike in Iran. Sounds like a ground operation. But a very successful one!👍 As far as tracking military activity, all military aircraft carry ADS-B but mostly keep it off. When it is activated it’s because they want everyone to know about them. Yes. But with a little imagination you can probably guess why a couple of KC135s are floating around over the Med. Most of what I see is cargo or tankers. I ve got a couple of CIA birds I watch. Though they haven't been as active or at least not when I'm watching the last week or two. The ONLY reason the fighters are seen is because they want to be seen. And they will routinely flip them on over Europe and say hello before flipping them back off. It was indeed an "Israeli" airstrike. Which means they launched that bitch well off the coast in the Gulf orrrrr from Jordan maybe? Either way I wo.fer if Israel or the U.S. had a ground team to paint the target or if it was just GPS guided? The precision of taking out only his apartment makes me believe they had somebody in Tehran. But I am in no way a tactical or military expert. Just somebody with too much ti.e on bishands that reads a LOT |
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 1, 2024 22:57:01 GMT -5
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Post by bswiv on Aug 2, 2024 5:27:29 GMT -5
And based on the article it probably just got harder to employ the same method again. Though, assuming one of the responses will be a constant moving of locations for high value targets that are visiting it could be that that moving opens up more opportunities? Who knows. |
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