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Post by tankered on Jul 30, 2024 10:53:49 GMT -5
Not sure how widespread this is but many palms around here are just up and dying, quickly too.
I've seen it in almost every species we have in Gainesville but it seems like the cabbage palms are the most susceptible.
I see it way more in urban areas than out in the woods.
Some type of new bug? Fungus?
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 30, 2024 10:59:05 GMT -5
Lethal Bronzing disease?
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 30, 2024 11:11:07 GMT -5
I haven’t seen that yet. How wet or dry has it been there? Swamp cabbage likes dampness. Lots of rain in north Florida. My swamp cabbage is doing well. Some of them are going to be heavily laden with berries this year.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 30, 2024 11:53:33 GMT -5
That's probably it. It doesn't effect every tree. Kinda jumps around.
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Post by tankered on Jul 30, 2024 12:12:43 GMT -5
Been raining a ton recently. but not really more than an average summer.
Where's cyclist? This is one thing he's knowledgeable about.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 30, 2024 12:26:06 GMT -5
Been raining a ton recently. but not really more than an average summer. Where's cyclist? This is one thing he's knowledgeable about. I think he’s in Europe.
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Post by 6thgen on Jul 30, 2024 12:42:32 GMT -5
I feel it was the lack of rain this spring and then the heat. It is random and urban mostly here in CF as well. More than I can ever remember though.
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Post by bswiv on Jul 30, 2024 13:53:12 GMT -5
There is a new pathogen, one the foresters described to us a year or two ago. Could be it.
If it'll take a whack at the palmetto up here it'll actually be doing a good thing......so long as it does not kill all of them as does the fundus with bay trees.
Not good on the cabbage though......
And yes.....there is some discussion among folks who manage land that the extent of palmetto we see now is not what it would have been 2-3-400 years ago. No....not climate change.......
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 30, 2024 14:14:04 GMT -5
There is a new pathogen, one the foresters described to us a year or two ago. Could be it. If it'll take a whack at the palmetto up here it'll actually be doing a good thing......so long as it does not kill all of them as does the fundus with bay trees. Not good on the cabbage though...... And yes.....there is some discussion among folks who manage land that the extent of palmetto we see now is not what it would have been 2-3-400 years ago. No....not climate change....... Fire and cattle. I had no idea the degree by which cows love to eat palmettos. I have both taurine and zebu families of cattle and they both demolish palmetto fronds. Both saw and sabal palmettos. To such a degree that I have no doubt that roving bands of cattle were keeping the flat woods more open in centuries past.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 30, 2024 15:05:54 GMT -5
My dad used to feed his wood's cows salt and molasses in the winter. They would stay in good shape feeding on palmettos.
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Post by bswiv on Jul 30, 2024 16:57:05 GMT -5
There is a new pathogen, one the foresters described to us a year or two ago. Could be it. If it'll take a whack at the palmetto up here it'll actually be doing a good thing......so long as it does not kill all of them as does the fundus with bay trees. Not good on the cabbage though...... And yes.....there is some discussion among folks who manage land that the extent of palmetto we see now is not what it would have been 2-3-400 years ago. No....not climate change....... And what the buffalo we had here in Florida before the cattle ate and how they held parts of the ecosystem in check......we've no idea....... Fire and cattle. I had no idea the degree by which cows love to eat palmettos. I have both taurine and zebu families of cattle and they both demolish palmetto fronds. Both saw and sabal palmettos. To such a degree that I have no doubt that roving bands of cattle were keeping the flat woods more open in centuries past.
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Post by OhMy on Jul 30, 2024 18:42:15 GMT -5
Been raining a ton recently. but not really more than an average summer. Where's cyclist? This is one thing he's knowledgeable about. Don't worry, Cliff will be around shortly.
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Post by tankered on Aug 2, 2024 12:01:52 GMT -5
Hey cyclist...
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Post by swampdog on Aug 2, 2024 19:09:57 GMT -5
When the pasture grass went dormant in the winter, my uncle and other ranchers put out molasses tubs for the cattle. The molasses helped with the digestion of the palmettos. Palmettos are one of the hardest plants to get rid of. Palm trees around town are looking very unhealthy.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 3, 2024 7:37:14 GMT -5
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