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Post by toldya on Jul 21, 2024 11:41:02 GMT -5
" If you don't love it ,leave it . "
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 21, 2024 11:42:27 GMT -5
Touche! However we're talking about the United States Presidential candidates. Not support for or against a middle European country. Though the subject matter may be different, the implication is the same. People should be free to say what they want to about any subject. You should be free to say what you want to about their views. I just don’t happen to see the one as being any different than the other. I don’t want anyone to go somewhere else, just because they’re different from me, unless it’s something they want to do themselves. I think we are all better off having people amongst us whose point of view differs from ours from time to time. It helps us gain perspective. Occasionally, it provides some good entertainment too!🤪
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 21, 2024 11:51:49 GMT -5
That's your opinion and I support your right to say so. By telling those you disagree with to leave means you don't believe they should have the same right to speak their mind as yourself. Since I dislike Trump and won't vote for Biden, you're telling me to leave the country. Correct? How many of you who are fond of calling others Putin Lovers have said they should leave? More than one that I can think of. Same old same old. I've never met a putin lover in real life. That's a chatroom thing.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 21, 2024 11:58:00 GMT -5
How many of you who are fond of calling others Putin Lovers have said they should leave? More than one that I can think of. Same old same old. I've never met a putin lover in real life. That's a chatroom thing. while I agree isolationism is really catching on.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 12:20:29 GMT -5
Isolationism will be good for America short term but it will fracture a lot of relationships with other countries and I'm not talking politically. I'm talking economically.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 21, 2024 13:12:16 GMT -5
I don’t think its a fair assessment that MAGA is saying someone isn’t American based on their race, religion, or job. The sentiment is that someone is or isn’t a real American based on their ideologies. The assertion is that:
1. There’s no such thing as an American race or ethnicity. Therefore American identity has to be defined by something ideological.
2. American ideology is defined by patriotism, love of the Constitution, belief in American exceptionalism, the enumerated Rights of the Constitution existing as Natural Rights written into the fabric of existence, ect.
3. Ideologies opposed to #2 are by default opposed to the American identity.
The Left does the same thing. They just define #2 differently in such a way that the definition of “real” Americans excludes the Right.
Remember the far Right is reactionary. They’re reacting to what the Left does. The Left tries to radically transform, the Right tries to stop the transformation.
What’s changed is that the politics of the country since the 2000s has been defined by a radical Left and a moderate Right. The Left road roughshod over the moderate Right. Now the moderate Right has evolved into the far Right and is an equal and opposing force to the Left. The Left isn’t used to the Right pushing back as hard or as extreme as the Left attacks and its scaring the Hell out of the Left.
I don’t agree with the direction the Right is taking at this point. But I also see it as a just punishment of the excesses of the Left. The Left went too far and are now reaping what they’ve sown. Trump-infused MAGA is the monster the Left made.
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 21, 2024 13:44:23 GMT -5
How many of you who are fond of calling others Putin Lovers have said they should leave? More than one that I can think of. Same old same old. I've never met a putin lover in real life. That's a chatroom thing. Agree. It’s just an unintelligent thing some otherwise intelligent people here have called others just because their perspective isn’t the same as theirs on the war in Ukraine.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 21, 2024 15:55:01 GMT -5
I would think that those who are aligned with Putin's Russia are not acting in America's best interest. Are you really this naive or just trolling?
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 21, 2024 16:19:53 GMT -5
I would think that those who are aligned with Putin's Russia are not acting in America's best interest. Are you really this naive or just trolling? Makes sense you couldn’t let that one slide.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 21, 2024 21:10:00 GMT -5
Are you really this naive or just trolling? Makes sense you couldn’t let that one slide. Because its sensible to point out. It is a truly ignorant comment.
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Post by Captj on Jul 22, 2024 5:26:55 GMT -5
Makes sense you couldn’t let that one slide. Because its sensible to point out. It is a truly ignorant comment. True ignorance as demonstrated by your celebration of Russia's campaign of terror against the people of Ukraine is what I would hold up as an example of man's inhumanity towards man. You would excuse the bombing of cities, schools, churches, hospitals, and for that matter any civilian target as normal behavior. At the head of this beast is your deity, Vlad Putin. Not his first rodeo either. Killed a lot of people in Syria to prop up his friend there. These are the acts of an animal with no regard for humanity. How you continue to make excuses for him is beyond my comprehension. For Trump Putin is a potential source of income as well as an example of absolute authority over all people. This is what Trump aspires to. Contrary to Maga beliefs, Trump's agenda is all about Trump. The value of human life and suffering doesn't exist in his mind.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 22, 2024 7:01:31 GMT -5
Being a communist or a socialist who has no problem with authoritarian government is not an American. Those thoughts go against everything it means to be an American.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 22, 2024 7:05:03 GMT -5
Because its sensible to point out. It is a truly ignorant comment. True ignorance as demonstrated by your celebration of Russia's campaign of terror against the people of Ukraine is what I would hold up as an example of man's inhumanity towards man. You would excuse the bombing of cities, schools, churches, hospitals, and for that matter any civilian target as normal behavior. At the head of this beast is your deity, Vlad Putin. Not his first rodeo either. Killed a lot of people in Syria to prop up his friend there. These are the acts of an animal with no regard for humanity. How you continue to make excuses for him is beyond my comprehension. For Trump Putin is a potential source of income as well as an example of absolute authority over all people. This is what Trump aspires to. Contrary to Maga beliefs, Trump's agenda is all about Trump. The value of human life and suffering doesn't exist in his mind. So why didn’t Trump start some wars while he was POTUS? Not to mention his anti war policies that got under the skin of the DOD and State Department, remember meeting with the NORKS and talking to NATO?
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Post by OhMy on Jul 22, 2024 8:59:59 GMT -5
I wonder if Trump would have mandated vaccines for the military.
A vaccine that did not prevent obtaining or spreading the virus and that mandate is now rescinded.
That sounds more like an authoritarian to me.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 22, 2024 14:04:31 GMT -5
I think some folks should have been swallowed by their mom.
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