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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 8:45:37 GMT -5
I see this in the comments of Trump supporters more and more frequently.
Mayo shared what he believes the current Republican party’s recurring theme during its convention:
“That there are certain Americans out there — whether it’s based on their race, their religion, their job or their occupation, who are real Americans,” while others for the same reason are “not quite real Americans.”
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 21, 2024 9:00:17 GMT -5
Hard to comprehend the exact meaning or intention of the statement that was made. It could be taken several different ways
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 9:25:42 GMT -5
Not hard at all.
How many times have you told folks who don't agree with you about Trump to "leave the country" ? To move somewhere else?
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Post by toldya on Jul 21, 2024 10:12:09 GMT -5
Not hard at all. How many times have you told folks who don't agree with you about Trump to "leave the country" ? To move somewhere else? If the anti-Trumpers on here have no candidate they support, nothing good to say about a candidate , and constantly demeaning a candidate and trying to dominate the discussion they are just trying to sow chaos into the election process and not trying to be part of it. It's not simply a matter of them not being in agreement about Trump. If one chooses to be part of the political process, and discussing political issues on a forum is part of that process , they should not be trying to derail the process ,which they are doing . Not only here, but in America as a whole I think people should want what is best for our Country. If you look at Trumps record as President , which is what people should be concerned about and compare it to the many anti-American things the Biden administration has done, his disrespect for our Country by his immigration policies is un-American and against our laws. . His appointment of people based on gender or race ,which is against the law to do so . is also un -American . I could go on. It's my opinion that if someone going to choose to be part of the political process and their only goal is to sow chaos and/or support someone that has repeatedly done anti-American things, they should just leave.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 21, 2024 10:13:46 GMT -5
Apparently the OP has missed the posts of BT and Cyclist...
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 10:17:18 GMT -5
Not hard at all. How many times have you told folks who don't agree with you about Trump to "leave the country" ? To move somewhere else? If the anti-Trumpers on here have no candidate they support, nothing good to say about a candidate , and constantly demeaning a candidate and trying to dominate the discussion they are just trying to sow chaos into the election process and not trying to be part of it. It's not simply a matter of them not being in agreement about Trump. If one chooses to be part of the political process, and discussing political issues on a forum is part of that process , they should not be trying to derail the process ,which they are doing . Not only here, but in America as a whole I think people should want what is best for our Country. If you look at Trumps record as President , which is what people should be concerned about and compare it to the many anti-American things the Biden administration has done, his disrespect for our Country by his immigration policies is un-American and against our laws. . His appointment of people based on gender or race ,which is against the law to do so . is also un -American . I could go on. It's my opinion that if someone going to choose to be part of the political process and their only goal is to sow chaos and/or support someone that has repeatedly done anti-American things, they should just leave. That's your opinion and I support your right to say so. By telling those you disagree with to leave means you don't believe they should have the same right to speak their mind as yourself. Since I dislike Trump and won't vote for Biden, you're telling me to leave the country. Correct?
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 10:20:38 GMT -5
Apparently the OP has missed the posts of BT and Cyclist... Of course I haven't missed them. (That'd be impossible.) However I'm speaking of folks around me who support Trump. Not all espouse that notion of leave America but it's becoming more prevalent.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 21, 2024 10:22:24 GMT -5
There's certainly a decent sized group that wants to undermine this country. They're definitely not real Americans
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 10:32:01 GMT -5
And they feel the same way about your group's way of thinking.
Therein lies the crux of the problem.
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Post by Captj on Jul 21, 2024 10:34:39 GMT -5
I would think that those who are aligned with Putin's Russia are not acting in America's best interest.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 21, 2024 10:37:54 GMT -5
And they feel the same way about your group's way of thinking. Therein lies the crux of the problem. What's my group?
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 21, 2024 11:02:23 GMT -5
Not hard at all. How many times have you told folks who don't agree with you about Trump to "leave the country" ? To move somewhere else? A number of them have said themselves they were going to do just that, back when Big Meanie beat Hillary. None of them did, though I wouldn’t have cared if some of them had.
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 21, 2024 11:06:44 GMT -5
If the anti-Trumpers on here have no candidate they support, nothing good to say about a candidate , and constantly demeaning a candidate and trying to dominate the discussion they are just trying to sow chaos into the election process and not trying to be part of it. It's not simply a matter of them not being in agreement about Trump. If one chooses to be part of the political process, and discussing political issues on a forum is part of that process , they should not be trying to derail the process ,which they are doing . Not only here, but in America as a whole I think people should want what is best for our Country. If you look at Trumps record as President , which is what people should be concerned about and compare it to the many anti-American things the Biden administration has done, his disrespect for our Country by his immigration policies is un-American and against our laws. . His appointment of people based on gender or race ,which is against the law to do so . is also un -American . I could go on. It's my opinion that if someone going to choose to be part of the political process and their only goal is to sow chaos and/or support someone that has repeatedly done anti-American things, they should just leave. That's your opinion and I support your right to say so. By telling those you disagree with to leave means you don't believe they should have the same right to speak their mind as yourself. Since I dislike Trump and won't vote for Biden, you're telling me to leave the country. Correct? How many of you who are fond of calling others Putin Lovers have said they should leave? More than one that I can think of. Same old same old.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 21, 2024 11:11:48 GMT -5
Touche!
However we're talking about the United States Presidential candidates. Not support for or against a middle European country.
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Post by toldya on Jul 21, 2024 11:23:56 GMT -5
If the anti-Trumpers on here have no candidate they support, nothing good to say about a candidate , and constantly demeaning a candidate and trying to dominate the discussion they are just trying to sow chaos into the election process and not trying to be part of it. It's not simply a matter of them not being in agreement about Trump. If one chooses to be part of the political process, and discussing political issues on a forum is part of that process , they should not be trying to derail the process ,which they are doing . Not only here, but in America as a whole I think people should want what is best for our Country. If you look at Trumps record as President , which is what people should be concerned about and compare it to the many anti-American things the Biden administration has done, his disrespect for our Country by his immigration policies is un-American and against our laws. . His appointment of people based on gender or race ,which is against the law to do so . is also un -American . I could go on. It's my opinion that if someone going to choose to be part of the political process and their only goal is to sow chaos and/or support someone that has repeatedly done anti-American things, they should just leave. That's your opinion and I support your right to say so. By telling those you disagree with to leave means you don't believe they should have the same right to speak their mind as yourself. Since I dislike Trump and won't vote for Biden, you're telling me to leave the country. Correct? I'm not saying they shouldn't have the right. You're confusing my opinion that some should leave with " should be forced to leave " and I explained the issues of them offering nothing while trying to sow chaos. If what someone does causes chaos ,oh well . If causing chaos is one's goal , not so good. To answer your question - Disliking Trump does not, in itself, make you an anti-Trumper in my opinion. As we discussed before, I think everyone should vote for who they think is the best option of the 2 candidates on the ticket. I can't relate to how someone can not prefer one over the other . You said you were considering writing in Haley. Knowing that your best way to help your candidate is to have her in a Trump admin. you won't vote in her best interest . You say you believe Trump will win, but that is not a given and you won't vote for Trump . I think you are anti-Trump in those regards but I wouldn't consider you an anti-Trumper in the context we are talking about here. So, to answer more directly -No
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