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Post by bswiv on Jul 19, 2024 8:10:03 GMT -5
He's no use for Trump....but......his writings over the years leave one understanding that he has a attachment to the "working class", just as was the case for Team D for decades. And that was always one of the positive things about Team D.....that even if the policies they instituted did not work out it was still their intention to help the folks working up from the lower end. And now that the chosen social policies of the elites of Team D do not align with the chosen social policies of the "working class".......well......over the "working class" goes. Even to the extent of becoming "downscale voters" and "non-college educated" as if denigrating them will make them approve of the elites social policies. He's worth a few minuets. Oh.....and no....you on the solid Team R side will not be cheering him.......so don't expect that. But do read. www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-gops-big-working-class-bet |
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 19, 2024 9:52:09 GMT -5
That's a very interesting article and the comments are too.
Thanks
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Post by cyclist on Jul 19, 2024 9:57:07 GMT -5
I need to read it again. First impression, republicans catering to working class with no intention of actually helping them out with vance actually working with democrats to help the lowly worker but not likely to change the direction of the republican party.
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Post by bswiv on Jul 19, 2024 10:19:27 GMT -5
I need to read it again. First impression, republicans catering to working class with no intention of actually helping them out with vance actually working with democrats to help the lowly worker but not likely to change the direction of the republican party. Reread your own post a time or two for in is something truly interesting....that being that maybe, just maybe we can get both teams to focus where the hurt is and ignore their respective fringe elements. You're onto something valuable.... |
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Post by cyclist on Jul 19, 2024 10:25:00 GMT -5
I need to read it again. First impression, republicans catering to working class with no intention of actually helping them out with vance actually working with democrats to help the lowly worker but not likely to change the direction of the republican party. Reread your own post a time or two for in is something truly interesting....that being that maybe, just maybe we can get both teams to focus where the hurt is and ignore their respective fringe elements. You're onto something valuable.... Vance for all his issues appears to be playing a game, who with? His cosponsoring good bills with democrats, that positively effect the working class is a good thing, smacks of old time (pre newt gingrich) politicians who made deals across party lines, progress happened and no party won, but the American public did.
You actually think vance could promote this, or will he succumb to the lure of power or be crushed by the magaa ignorance?
Thanks for posting the article.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 19, 2024 11:21:07 GMT -5
Reread your own post a time or two for in is something truly interesting....that being that maybe, just maybe we can get both teams to focus where the hurt is and ignore their respective fringe elements. You're onto something valuable.... Vance for all his issues appears to be playing a game, who with? His cosponsoring good bills with democrats, that positively effect the working class is a good thing, smacks of old time (pre newt gingrich) politicians who made deals across party lines, progress happened and no party won, but the American public did.
You actually think vance could promote this, or will he succumb to the lure of power or be crushed by the magaa ignorance?
Thanks for posting the article.
There's no denying that Vance has changed his opinion since he made his statements. The question is did he change it on Trump, or Hitler? |
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Post by bswiv on Jul 19, 2024 17:58:27 GMT -5
Reread your own post a time or two for in is something truly interesting....that being that maybe, just maybe we can get both teams to focus where the hurt is and ignore their respective fringe elements. You're onto something valuable.... Vance for all his issues appears to be playing a game, who with? His cosponsoring good bills with democrats, that positively effect the working class is a good thing, smacks of old time (pre newt gingrich) politicians who made deals across party lines, progress happened and no party won, but the American public did.
You actually think vance could promote this, or will he succumb to the lure of power or be crushed by the magaa ignorance?
Thanks for posting the article.
Very hard to say when one is dealing with politics...... But.......he strikes me, and others, as complex......and as we live in a complex society maybe someone who understands and appreciates complexity will be more careful and caring of those who are at the bottom....? Hard to figure out......but maybe.....just maybe........well......I choose to try and be positive. |
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Post by cyclist on Jul 19, 2024 18:03:51 GMT -5
Vance for all his issues appears to be playing a game, who with? His cosponsoring good bills with democrats, that positively effect the working class is a good thing, smacks of old time (pre newt gingrich) politicians who made deals across party lines, progress happened and no party won, but the American public did.
You actually think vance could promote this, or will he succumb to the lure of power or be crushed by the magaa ignorance?
Thanks for posting the article.
Very hard to say when one is dealing with politics...... But.......he strikes me, and others, as complex......and as we live in a complex society maybe someone who understands and appreciates complexity will be more careful and caring of those who are at the bottom....? Hard to figure out......but maybe.....just maybe........well......I choose to try and be positive. Positive is good! The pendulum swings... bittersoutherner.com/hillbillies-need-no-elegy-appalachian-reckoning |
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