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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2024 19:02:53 GMT -5
Sounds like a family of gun nuts to me. ABC News learned that on the day of the shooting, Crooks told his father he wanted to go to a shooting range and asked if he could borrow his dad's AR15-style rifle, said a source familiar with the matter. Since the father had occasionally allowed Crooks to go target shooting with the semiautomatic firearm, he didn't think anything was suspicious when he let him use the rifle again on Saturday, the source said. Under normal circumstances I would have not a problem with it. Unfortunately the parents didn’t see that their son had issues. The worst part about it is that were trained psychologists. Saw a news report where an officer said the parents didn't seem to know a lot about their son or what he was doing. Maybe they worked a lot and ignored him for the most part since he was over 18
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 19:10:19 GMT -5
Where did they get a gun owner database? Government does not keep one. I found the article. It was not a gun owner's database. It was a database of Republicans who likely owned a gun and would respond positively to pro-gun messages. The mother was in the same database. A "likely gun owners" data base could start with concealed carry permit holders and hunting licenses, information that is public record. This would cover a wide swath and is a reason why "permits" of any kind are met with suspicion. The point was to, once again, point out biminitwisted doesnt have a clue and shouldnt comment on subjects he knows absolutely nothing about.....that list is extensive. So, first you say they have a gun owner database, now you say it's a likely gun owner database.
Perhaps you should take your own ducking advice and not comment on something you apparently know nothing about.
Or, maybe, people are allowed to have and voice their opinions: Right or wrong, informed or uninformed -- it matters not. I think we even have an Amendment to our Constitution about that, and some fools even believe that extends to social media forums who are free to make up their own rules.
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Post by pinman on Jul 16, 2024 19:26:18 GMT -5
A "likely gun owners" data base could start with concealed carry permit holders and hunting licenses, information that is public record. This would cover a wide swath and is a reason why "permits" of any kind are met with suspicion. The point was to, once again, point out biminitwisted doesnt have a clue and shouldnt comment on subjects he knows absolutely nothing about.....that list is extensive. So, first you say they have a gun owner database, now you say it's a likely gun owner database.
Perhaps you should take your own ducking advice and not comment on something you apparently know nothing about.
Or, maybe, people are allowed to have and voice their opinions: Right or wrong, informed or uninformed -- it matters not. I think we even have an Amendment to our Constitution about that, and some fools even believe that extends to social media forums who are free to make up their own rules.
Ooooooooo...sensitive.... I have my own "gun owners database". Its all the people in my circle who own guns. I included the word "likely" as I know those who participate in archery hunting only would have a hunting license but choose to not have a gun. Or they may be required by law not to own one as they are a convicted Felon. As others have expressed on here you do not like guns, I think my advice that one should not comment on a subject they have no clue about extends to you also. But that is a forgone conclusion based on your comment. Remember - "Better to be silent and thought a fool.....
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 19:28:06 GMT -5
I'm not sensitive in the least. In case you had not noticed, I just enjoy using people's own words against them. Frankly, you make it easy.
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Post by pinman on Jul 16, 2024 19:57:06 GMT -5
I'm not sensitive in the least. In case you had not noticed, I just enjoy using people's own words against them. Frankly, you make it easy.
I said the GOP had a "gun owners database" contradicting bimintwisted's assertion that they now like "gun databases". My comment demonstated how a "likely gun owner database" could be created. I never said it was the GOP's. If it is "so easy", show me my words that support your claim.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 20:34:35 GMT -5
I guess the GOP does like gun databases after all. They had a "Gun Owner" database....not a "Gun" database. There is a difference.
Right there, silly goose.
The post I quoted 4 posts above this one shows where you changed your tune, and of course there's a difference -- from "gun owner" to "likely gun owner" -- and I would suppose that's precisely why you used the word "likely" the second time, and in fact is exactly why I posted what I did in response.
Any more questions?
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 16, 2024 20:43:48 GMT -5
So, perhaps Cyclist and Tarp may show up on a list as gun owners and I hardly think that either of them are staunch conservatives. Plenty of liberals own guns. I have three firearms. My girlfriend has four. If they saw my ammo stash, I'd likely be considered a gun nut, and I'm OK with that. Really, I'm just cheap and I get better rates with bulk purchases.
God bless the 2nd Amendment.
Do you have an assault life window sticker?
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 20:45:59 GMT -5
Nope. My vehicles are all unadorned.... ...unless you count a tarpon license plate (i.e. Tampa Bay Estuary), in which case I freely admit to being a fishing/tarpon nut.
Funny how that works.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 16, 2024 20:58:11 GMT -5
Dave from the old forum would be pulling his hair out with you guys telling the world how many guns you have. 😉Dave lost all his guns in an unfortunate boating accident.
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 16, 2024 21:02:57 GMT -5
I'm not sensitive in the least. In case you had not noticed, I just enjoy using people's own words against them. Frankly, you make it easy.
Pretty sure his real name isn’t Frankly.
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Post by toldya on Jul 16, 2024 21:06:34 GMT -5
Dave from the old forum would be pulling his hair out with you guys telling the world how many guns you have. 😉Dave lost all his guns in an unfortunate boating accident. Reminds me . Haven't checked in on Dave lately. I think it was too much politics at Florida Sportsman where politics weren't allowed and you knew everybody's side of the aisle and their position on every political issue in the news , that made him lose interest before any more damage was done.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 21:08:00 GMT -5
I'm not sensitive in the least. In case you had not noticed, I just enjoy using people's own words against them. Frankly, you make it easy.
Pretty sure his real name isn’t Frankly. Sorry, not enough misspellings, grammatical mistakes, or typos for me to respond substantively.
Please try harder.
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Post by pinman on Jul 16, 2024 21:11:02 GMT -5
They had a "Gun Owner" database....not a "Gun" database. There is a difference.
Right there, silly goose.
The post I quoted 4 posts above this one shows where you changed your tune, and of course there's a difference -- from "gun owner" to "likely gun owner" -- and I would suppose that's precisely why you used the word "likely" the second time, and in fact is exactly why I posted what I did in response.
Any more questions?
You really are just a dumbass.... I didnt change my tune but I was quoting Cads term but in hindsight I should have properly quoted it as "likely owned a gun" as not to confuse your literal, lack of common sense......well...."dumbass".
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 21:11:15 GMT -5
What does one suppose the likelihood that this family of gun enthusiasts, with their kid in the school gun club and a rifle sports club, considered themselves responsible gun owners?
Just another ticket in the lottery.
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Post by toldya on Jul 16, 2024 21:15:53 GMT -5
Pretty sure his real name isn’t Frankly. Sorry, not enough misspellings, grammatical mistakes, or typos for me to respond substantively.
Please try harder.
It would take a calculator to figure the score on that one in a game of Scrabble. I'll give it 8 internets.
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