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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 16, 2024 17:39:26 GMT -5
If he was a Trumper then why would he want to kill him? Leftists communist reasoning. Man are these leftists on here out of touch with reality
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 17:40:02 GMT -5
If he was a Trumper then why would he want to kill him? Because Trumpism is a mental disorder, of course.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 17:41:13 GMT -5
Sounds like a family of gun nuts to me.
ABC News learned that on the day of the shooting, Crooks told his father he wanted to go to a shooting range and asked if he could borrow his dad's AR15-style rifle, said a source familiar with the matter. Since the father had occasionally allowed Crooks to go target shooting with the semiautomatic firearm, he didn't think anything was suspicious when he let him use the rifle again on Saturday, the source said.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 17:43:59 GMT -5
What part do you think is he unclear on? He thinks that any body who owns firearms is a nut, Perhaps he does, but I don't recall him saying that.
I am a self-avowed fishing nut, FWIW.
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Post by conchydong on Jul 16, 2024 17:46:35 GMT -5
Sounds like a family of gun nuts to me. ABC News learned that on the day of the shooting, Crooks told his father he wanted to go to a shooting range and asked if he could borrow his dad's AR15-style rifle, said a source familiar with the matter. Since the father had occasionally allowed Crooks to go target shooting with the semiautomatic firearm, he didn't think anything was suspicious when he let him use the rifle again on Saturday, the source said. Under normal circumstances I would have not a problem with it. Unfortunately the parents didn’t see that their son had issues. The worst part about it is that were trained psychologists.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 17:46:41 GMT -5
The shooter’s parents should be arrested. They are responsible for the weapon. They should not have left their weapon unsecured and available for the shooter. This should be done to anyone that is casual about securing their weapons. ANYONE! If you own weapons you are responsible to make sure that they don’t fall into the hands of wrong doers. Or, maybe they just simply gave it to him and said have a lovely day.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 16, 2024 17:54:42 GMT -5
Something is not right about the parents. It came out now that as soon as they saw the shooting they called and reported their rifle missing?
Come on man, they knew something.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 17:55:07 GMT -5
FWIW, the father reported it stolen...after the assassination attempt.
If I were a betting man, I'd say to cover their ass, but I'm guessing and it's important to state and recognize that.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 18:17:55 GMT -5
p.s. reports from the neighborhood say that his parent's yard had Trump signs out front. That's gonna throw a wrench in the partisan lens some of you are viewing this one through. As stated before, it would be wise to wait until more details come out before jumping to conclusions.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:22:58 GMT -5
p.s. reports from the neighborhood say that his parent's yard had Trump signs out front. That's gonna throw a wrench in the partisan lens some of you are viewing this one through. I'd be curious to know if they brought them in when they heard the news and put 2x2 together.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 18:28:00 GMT -5
Something is not right about the parents. It came out now that as soon as they saw the shooting they called and reported their rifle missing? Come on man, they knew something. If they reported it stolen after the shooting but before anyone notified them their son was the shooter, yes that’s very suspicious.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:30:49 GMT -5
Something is not right about the parents. It came out now that as soon as they saw the shooting they called and reported their rifle missing? Come on man, they knew something. If they reported it stolen after the shooting but before anyone notified them their son was the shooter, yes that’s very suspicious. Why would he report it stolen if he willingly gave it to him to take?
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Post by pinman on Jul 16, 2024 18:37:56 GMT -5
They had a "Gun Owner" database....not a "Gun" database. There is a difference. Where did they get a gun owner database? Government does not keep one. I found the article. It was not a gun owner's database. It was a database of Republicans who likely owned a gun and would respond positively to pro-gun messages. The mother was in the same database. A "likely gun owners" data base could start with concealed carry permit holders and hunting licenses, information that is public record. This would cover a wide swath and is a reason why "permits" of any kind are met with suspicion. The point was to, once again, point out biminitwisted doesnt have a clue and shouldnt comment on subjects he knows absolutely nothing about.....that list is extensive.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 18:38:28 GMT -5
If they reported it stolen after the shooting but before anyone notified them their son was the shooter, yes that’s very suspicious. Why would he report it stolen if he willingly gave it to him to take? Do we know that he did give it to him to take? The presumption would be that absent evidence to the contrary, the shooter took the gun on his own accord. But if he did, and if his parents checked the gun and found it missing right after the shooting, it strongly suggests they suspected their son’s involvement. Would work like this: 1. Trump just got shot. Its on the news. 2. Where’s Thomas? He’s not here. Oh no. What if Thomas shot him? Surely he wouldn’t. 3. Check the guns. The AR is gone. 4. It has to be Thomas. Report the gun as stolen. And lets hope we hear from him soon. I didn’t check any of my guns when news of the shooting came out. Because I had no reason to suspect their use in the shooting. And if a gun of mine was previously stolen, I wouldn’t know until I wanted to use or look at the gun, which might not happen for days, weeks, or months depending on the gun. If its true they checked their guns after the shooting occurred, they suspected Thomas for some reason.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:45:06 GMT -5
Why would he report it stolen if he willingly gave it to him to take? Do we know that he did give it to him to take? The presumption would be that absent evidence to the contrary, the shooter took the gun on his own accord. But if he did, and if his parents checked the gun and found it missing right after the shooting, it strongly suggests they suspected their son’s involvement. Would work like this: 1. Trump just got shot. Its on the news. 2. Where’s Thomas? He’s not here. Oh no. What if Thomas shot him? Surely he wouldn’t. 3. Check the guns. The AR is gone. 4. It has to be Thomas. Report the gun as stolen. And lets hope we hear from him soon. I didn’t check any of my guns when news of the shooting came out. Because I had no reason to suspect their use in the shooting. And if a gun of mine was previously stolen, I wouldn’t know until I wanted to use or look at the gun, which might not happen for days, weeks, or months depending on the gun. If its true they checked their guns after the shooting occurred, they suspected Thomas for some reason. He literally gave it to him and said have a nice day son. "ABC News learned that on the day of the shooting, Crooks told his father he wanted to go to a shooting range and asked if he could borrow his dad's AR15-style rifle, said a source familiar with the matter. Since the father had occasionally allowed Crooks to go target shooting with the semiautomatic firearm, he didn't think anything was suspicious when he let him use the rifle again on Saturday, the source said."
abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-searches-motive-trump-assassination-attempt-cautions-investigation/story?id=111945201
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