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Post by OhMy on Jul 11, 2024 18:12:41 GMT -5
Biden introduces Ukraine president Zelensky as president Putin at end of NATO conference.
Turn the blind eye !!!
Everyone is watching this guy and he just continues to fuck up.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 11, 2024 18:14:05 GMT -5
Let’s not forget her highness Doctor Jill. She is the epitome of a gold digger wife. Her allowing her husband to be put through this mess is nothing more than elder abuse. She’s not giving up the trappings of the Whitehouse without a fight. That's rich considering Trump's wife's a hooker, and he's a rapist. Trump has not been established to be a rapist. See Tarp’s post about confusing criminal and civil liability, and also see the civil jury’s rejection of the civil rape claim, which has been pointed out many times. Your claim is false as it stands now. And Melania is a hooker?
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 18:41:47 GMT -5
Biden introduces Ukraine president Zelensky as president Putin at end of NATO conference. Turn the blind eye !!! Everyone is watching this guy and he just continues to fuck up. He just called VP Harris VP Trump.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 11, 2024 18:44:21 GMT -5
Biden introduces Ukraine president Zelensky as president Putin at end of NATO conference. Turn the blind eye !!! Everyone is watching this guy and he just continues to fuck up. He just called VP Harris VP Trump. I don’t see how he survives this at this point. I really can’t. It will be completely illogical if he remains. Of course, trying telling a senile old man with power that’s he’s senile and needs to give up his power, and watch what happens. He’ll double down every time. But they’re way to overrule someone. I’m wondering if that will happen here. Can the Party remove him via the delegates abandoning him?
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 18:46:52 GMT -5
Just a sad situation they are in.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 11, 2024 18:53:57 GMT -5
Biden introduces Ukraine president Zelensky as president Putin at end of NATO conference. Turn the blind eye !!! Everyone is watching this guy and he just continues to fuck up. He just called VP Harris VP Trump. I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard that!😂
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Post by johngalt on Jul 11, 2024 18:54:41 GMT -5
He is starting the creepy whispering. 🫣
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 11, 2024 18:55:40 GMT -5
Sorry, but I speak for myself and nobody else. Good luck in your search. Please do post the results and I look forward to your apology. For the reason you claim to be entitled to one, you won’t receive one from me regardless at this time. First, I don’t believe I owe you one either way. You’re very arrogant towards the Rightists on here. Which fine, whatever. I somewhat don’t care and I don’t dislike you for it. That’s how it rolls in the political forum. But I perceive your offense to be feigned. You don’t care if I lump you in with the other Leftists or not. So second, its somewhat irrelevant how much you’ve posted about it. I would only consider myself to have stepped in the doo doo and wronged you if you’ve actually spoken in defense of conservatives or Rightists on the issue. Then I would say “ok, I was wrong.” But if you’ve at best been silent about it, I see it as the same as all your other ridicules. You are of the Left, and your side have ridiculed the Right to no end about Biden’s decline. Except, of course, I never did what you very plainly accused me of doing. Now, you back off and double down on the generalizations. Which is fine, I somewhat don't care and I don't dislike you for it either. That's how it rolls in the political forum, 'ya know?
And of course my offense is feigned, I was aping your own apologetic tone as sarcasm. I do it quite often, in case you had not noticed in your haste to lump people together and equate silence as disagreement.
But forget all that, you were wrong, and I look forward to you stating it as such.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 18:56:36 GMT -5
He just called VP Harris VP Trump. I don’t see how he survives this at this point. I really can’t. It will be completely illogical if he remains. Of course, trying telling a senile old man with power that’s he’s senile and needs to give up his power, and watch what happens. He’ll double down every time. But they’re way to overrule someone. I’m wondering if that will happen here. Can the Party remove him via the delegates abandoning him? Theoretically, they could, but it would hurt the party. There are only two scenarios that work. One is Biden drops out of the race and releases his delegates or endorses a successor. The other would be for Harris and his cabinet to invoke the 25th and remove him from office. But congress would need to agree and if Trump thinks he could beat Biden easier than a replacement, he could have them fight it. Which would be an odd scenario. I think anything else would likely assure Trump wins with a fractured Democrat party
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 11, 2024 18:57:50 GMT -5
He just called VP Harris VP Trump. I don’t see how he survives this at this point. I really can’t. It will be completely illogical if he remains. Of course, trying telling a senile old man with power that’s he’s senile and needs to give up his power, and watch what happens. He’ll double down every time. But they’re way to overrule someone. I’m wondering if that will happen here. Can the Party remove him via the delegates abandoning him? His wife, son, or doctor convincing him would be my guess. As I understand things, his delegates are already bound.
And since you seem unclear on my own position, as opposed to the "left" in your partisan mind, I think he should have never run again.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 11, 2024 19:00:38 GMT -5
I don’t see how he survives this at this point. I really can’t. It will be completely illogical if he remains. Of course, trying telling a senile old man with power that’s he’s senile and needs to give up his power, and watch what happens. He’ll double down every time. But they’re way to overrule someone. I’m wondering if that will happen here. Can the Party remove him via the delegates abandoning him? Theoretically, they could, but it would hurt the party. There are only two scenarios that work. One is Biden drops out of the race and releases his delegates or endorses a successor. The other would be for Harris and his cabinet to invoke the 25th and remove him from office. But congress would need to agree and if Trump thinks he could beat Biden easier than a replacement, he could have them fight it. Which would be an odd scenario. I think anything else would likely assure Trump wins with a fractured Democrat party You are forgetting one important fact. Money. According to the law Harris has to be moved to the top of the ticket if Biden drops out or is removed. Or else all that money has to be returned.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 11, 2024 19:01:10 GMT -5
What law is that?
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 19:04:31 GMT -5
He should just stay hidden like he did last election.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 19:05:18 GMT -5
I don’t see how he survives this at this point. I really can’t. It will be completely illogical if he remains. Of course, trying telling a senile old man with power that’s he’s senile and needs to give up his power, and watch what happens. He’ll double down every time. But they’re way to overrule someone. I’m wondering if that will happen here. Can the Party remove him via the delegates abandoning him? His wife, son, or doctor convincing him would be my guess. As I understand things, his delegates are already bound.
And since you seem unclear on my own position, as opposed to the "left" in your partisan mind, I think he should have never run again.
They are bound by DNC rule, but that can be changed. The scenario would be to get enough to abandon Biden so he does not win the first round. Once that happens, delegates are free to vote for anyone and the Super delegates are then allowed to vote. In affect the Super Delegates would determine who the nominee was.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 19:12:23 GMT -5
Theoretically, they could, but it would hurt the party. There are only two scenarios that work. One is Biden drops out of the race and releases his delegates or endorses a successor. The other would be for Harris and his cabinet to invoke the 25th and remove him from office. But congress would need to agree and if Trump thinks he could beat Biden easier than a replacement, he could have them fight it. Which would be an odd scenario. I think anything else would likely assure Trump wins with a fractured Democrat party You are forgetting one important fact. Money. According to the law Harris has to be moved to the top of the ticket if Biden drops out or is removed. Or else all that money has to be returned. Not true, if Harris was still the VP she could claim and spend the money. If the Dems pick two new candidates, general election funds could be transferred to a Super PAC and the primary funds would go to the DNC. The FEC would have the final say, but there are options. www.yahoo.com/news/heres-what-happens-to-bidens-campaign-funds-if-he-withdraws-152819051.html
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