Glenn
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Post by Glenn on Jul 11, 2024 9:15:33 GMT -5
So far, polling is not indicating Biden's debate performance has changed anyone's mind. Looking at the same pollsters before and after the debate, there is no change in voter's opinions. Emerson polling even showed Biden's numbers improved. I really thought Biden's support would have dropped. I guess most people figure senile old man is no worse than the other choice they have. Democrats do need to make a decision soon with their virtual vote coming up in a couple of weeks. Either back Biden 100% or get him to drop out. The fact that the Presidential race is still so close is unbelievable to me. Left or Right I just don’t understand how people can vote for someone that clearly needs to be put on the front porch in a rocking chair. Was telling my wife last night the I think the American Experiment has just about reached its end. My family history goes back before the revolutionary war and it is sad to see what this country has become.
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Post by meateater on Jul 11, 2024 9:26:31 GMT -5
So far, polling is not indicating Biden's debate performance has changed anyone's mind. Looking at the same pollsters before and after the debate, there is no change in voter's opinions. Emerson polling even showed Biden's numbers improved. I really thought Biden's support would have dropped. I guess most people figure senile old man is no worse than the other choice they have. Democrats do need to make a decision soon with their virtual vote coming up in a couple of weeks. Either back Biden 100% or get him to drop out. The fact that the Presidential race is still so close is unbelievable to me. Left or Right I just don’t understand how people can vote for someone that clearly needs to be put on the front porch in a rocking chair. Was telling my wife last night the I think the American Experiment has just about reached its end. My family history goes back before the revolutionary war and it is sad to see what this country has become. when only 5 democrats voted for only american citizens to be allowed to vote in the presidential election and that 0 democrat senators will vote for it to become law then thats all you need to know about where this country is headed.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 9:46:27 GMT -5
So far, polling is not indicating Biden's debate performance has changed anyone's mind. Looking at the same pollsters before and after the debate, there is no change in voter's opinions. Emerson polling even showed Biden's numbers improved. I really thought Biden's support would have dropped. I guess most people figure senile old man is no worse than the other choice they have. Democrats do need to make a decision soon with their virtual vote coming up in a couple of weeks. Either back Biden 100% or get him to drop out. The fact that the Presidential race is still so close is unbelievable to me. Left or Right I just don’t understand how people can vote for someone that clearly needs to be put on the front porch in a rocking chair. Was telling my wife last night the I think the American Experiment has just about reached its end. My family history goes back before the revolutionary war and it is sad to see what this country has become. For the other side, they can't believe people would support a lying, convicted criminal, who is an ego maniac, who has moments of senility himself. They should both be sitting in a rocking chair on the front porch swapping tall tales. The problem is, BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE NUMEROUS FAULTS AND NEITHER ONE SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. The majority doesn't want either one, so they just pick which one they think is the least offensive at the moment. It is a shame that neither party could do better.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 9:55:41 GMT -5
The fact that the Presidential race is still so close is unbelievable to me. Left or Right I just don’t understand how people can vote for someone that clearly needs to be put on the front porch in a rocking chair. Was telling my wife last night the I think the American Experiment has just about reached its end. My family history goes back before the revolutionary war and it is sad to see what this country has become. when only 5 democrats voted for only american citizens to be allowed to vote in the presidential election and that 0 democrat senators will vote for it to become law then thats all you need to know about where this country is headed. It is already illegal for non citizens to vote in federal elections. As the saying goes on another issue about too many federal laws, all we need to do is enforce the current laws. There were other provisions in the bill that Democrats objected to, you know that other argument about adding shit to bills instead of attacking one issue per bill. It was just a bill to appease Trump supporters who think illegals are taking over the country. It was another one of those "We can tell them we tried, but the other side stopped us" bullshit bills that do nothing but make good politics. It is congress wasting time and effort instead of tackling the real problems facing us. That is all you need to know to know where the country is headed.
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Post by tankered on Jul 11, 2024 9:56:57 GMT -5
But the FACT is that's what you got.
"Convicted criminal". Are you really this stupid?
An 8 year old case, far past the statute of limitations, resurrected by a partisan hack prosecutor, over a perfectly legal NDA.
Yea...nothing to see here...
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Post by OhMy on Jul 11, 2024 9:58:35 GMT -5
when only 5 democrats voted for only american citizens to be allowed to vote in the presidential election and that 0 democrat senators will vote for it to become law then thats all you need to know about where this country is headed. It is already illegal for non citizens to vote in federal elections. As the saying goes on another issue about too many federal laws, all we need to do is enforce the current laws. There were other provisions in the bill that Democrats objected to, you know that other argument about adding shit to bills instead of attacking one issue per bill. It was just a bill to appease Trump supporters who think illegals are taking over the country. It was another one of those "We can tell them we tried, but the other side stopped us" bullshit bills that do nothing but make good politics. It is congress wasting time and effort instead of tackling the real problems facing us. That is all you need to know to know where the country is headed. If the republicans pork bellied that bill shame on them. I have not read it, but assumed it was full of it as it has 0 chance of passing in the Senate. To be fair, both sides do that all the time. The Covid bill's helped create the mess we are in today. Free money isn't free.
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Post by meateater on Jul 11, 2024 9:59:09 GMT -5
The fact that the Presidential race is still so close is unbelievable to me. Left or Right I just don’t understand how people can vote for someone that clearly needs to be put on the front porch in a rocking chair. Was telling my wife last night the I think the American Experiment has just about reached its end. My family history goes back before the revolutionary war and it is sad to see what this country has become. For the other side, they can't believe people would support a lying, convicted criminal, who is an ego maniac, who has moments of senility himself. They should both be sitting in a rocking chair on the front porch swapping tall tales. The problem is, BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE NUMEROUS FAULTS AND NEITHER ONE SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. The majority doesn't want either one, so they just pick which one they think is the least offensive at the moment. It is a shame that neither party could do better. he wasnt asking for the other side, when someone wants you to explain both sides they will ask the great excuse maker for his bullshit opinion, till then moderate, shut the fuck up and do your job.
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Glenn
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Post by Glenn on Jul 11, 2024 10:05:29 GMT -5
The fact that the Presidential race is still so close is unbelievable to me. Left or Right I just don’t understand how people can vote for someone that clearly needs to be put on the front porch in a rocking chair. Was telling my wife last night the I think the American Experiment has just about reached its end. My family history goes back before the revolutionary war and it is sad to see what this country has become. For the other side, they can't believe people would support a lying, convicted criminal, who is an ego maniac, who has moments of senility himself. They should both be sitting in a rocking chair on the front porch swapping tall tales. The problem is, BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE NUMEROUS FAULTS AND NEITHER ONE SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. The majority doesn't want either one, so they just pick which one they think is the least offensive at the moment. It is a shame that neither party could do better. I agree 100% that either party could choose better candidates. I’m a republican and will vote accordingly, but that doesn’t mean I’m happy with that choice. Hate to see what my kids are going to have to deal with after I’m gone.
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Post by meateater on Jul 11, 2024 10:06:20 GMT -5
It is already illegal for non citizens to vote in federal elections. As the saying goes on another issue about too many federal laws, all we need to do is enforce the current laws. There were other provisions in the bill that Democrats objected to, you know that other argument about adding shit to bills instead of attacking one issue per bill. It was just a bill to appease Trump supporters who think illegals are taking over the country. It was another one of those "We can tell them we tried, but the other side stopped us" bullshit bills that do nothing but make good politics. It is congress wasting time and effort instead of tackling the real problems facing us. That is all you need to know to know where the country is headed. If the republicans pork bellied that bill shame on them. I have not read it, but assumed it was full of it as it has 0 chance of passing in the Senate. To be fair, both sides do that all the time. The Covid bill's helped create the mess we are in today. Free money isn't free. 16 states dont require id to vote, just cause theres already a law dont stop people, heck over 10 million people have broke the law in past 3 years, 1/3 of florida drivers are breaking the law right now by driving with no insurance,i might break the law tonight if my wife is willing to give up the booty. 100% she aint.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 10:09:15 GMT -5
But the FACT is that's what you got. "Convicted criminal". Are you really this stupid? An 8 year old case, far past the statute of limitations, resurrected by a partisan hack prosecutor, over a perfectly legal NDA. Yea...nothing to see here... Are you that stupid not to realize he still broke the law. If you have to try and claim the statute of limitations ran out (it did not under New York Law) then you are admitting he is a criminal and was hoping he wouldn't get caught. That is the weird part of Trump supporters, they know he is a liar, a criminal, a sex offender, non-christian, senile, asshole. Yet they still support him, but can't understand why the other side would support a lying, senile old man. Both sides are supporting candidates unfit for the job and both sides make excuses for the idiocracy of supporting such losers. Fuck both of them.
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 10:24:06 GMT -5
If the republicans pork bellied that bill shame on them. I have not read it, but assumed it was full of it as it has 0 chance of passing in the Senate. To be fair, both sides do that all the time. The Covid bill's helped create the mess we are in today. Free money isn't free. 16 states dont require id to vote, just cause theres already a law dont stop people, heck over 10 million people have broke the law in past 3 years, 1/3 of florida drivers are breaking the law right now by driving with no insurance,i might break the law tonight if my wife is willing to give up the booty. 100% she aint. We don't need another law that repeats the current law. Congress needs to pass a voter I.D. bill that says nothing but "A photo i.D. is required to vote in person. If you do not have an photo I.D., you will vote by provisional ballot, which will not be counted until it can be verified." A real simple and easily understood law that copies how Florida handles voting in person. So if Florida drivers break the law by driving without insurance, does the Florida legislature need to pass another law making something illegal that is already illegal, or do the police need to do a better job enforcing the current law. Maybe pass a law requiring all police to impound any car unregistered or without insurance. I understand in Atlanta Georgia (may be a state law) if you don't have insurance, they impound the car on the spot. People start losing their cars and paying $500 or more to get them back might realize just carrying insurance is cheaper.
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Post by meateater on Jul 11, 2024 10:28:53 GMT -5
16 states dont require id to vote, just cause theres already a law dont stop people, heck over 10 million people have broke the law in past 3 years, 1/3 of florida drivers are breaking the law right now by driving with no insurance,i might break the law tonight if my wife is willing to give up the booty. 100% she aint. We don't need another law that repeats the current law. Congress needs to pass a voter I.D. bill that says nothing but "A photo i.D. is required to vote in person. If you do not have an photo I.D., you will vote by provisional ballot, which will not be counted until it can be verified." A real simple and easily understood law that copies how Florida handles voting in person. So if Florida drivers break the law by driving without insurance, does the Florida legislature need to pass another law making something illegal that is already illegal, or do the police need to do a better job enforcing the current law. Maybe pass a law requiring all police to impound any car unregistered or without insurance. I understand in Atlanta Georgia (may be a state law) if you don't have insurance, they impound the car on the spot. People start losing their cars and paying $500 or more to get them back might realize just carrying insurance is cheaper. i like the impound the car idea, ok what should happen to those states that ignore the current law,
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 10:29:29 GMT -5
Trump is very fit for the job and did a great job when he was President .
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 11, 2024 10:34:21 GMT -5
Trump is very fit for the job and did a great job when he was President . 👍👍
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 10:50:39 GMT -5
We don't need another law that repeats the current law. Congress needs to pass a voter I.D. bill that says nothing but "A photo i.D. is required to vote in person. If you do not have an photo I.D., you will vote by provisional ballot, which will not be counted until it can be verified." A real simple and easily understood law that copies how Florida handles voting in person. So if Florida drivers break the law by driving without insurance, does the Florida legislature need to pass another law making something illegal that is already illegal, or do the police need to do a better job enforcing the current law. Maybe pass a law requiring all police to impound any car unregistered or without insurance. I understand in Atlanta Georgia (may be a state law) if you don't have insurance, they impound the car on the spot. People start losing their cars and paying $500 or more to get them back might realize just carrying insurance is cheaper. i like the impound the car idea, ok what should happen to those states that ignore the current law, They do not ignore the current law, unless you can prove they let illegals register to vote in federal elections. I doubt any state does that. From the studies I have seen, non-citizens voting in federal elections is not an issue like Trump claims it is (You were aware this is just another Trump made up claim, weren't you?) You are talking about two different issues. Those 16 states use the old fashioned voter registration rolls and have the person sign the roll when they vote. If they were illegal, they would not be on the registration roll for federal elections. That is already the law and being followed by the states in spite of Trump's claims. Adding another law to repeat the current law makes no sense. They other issue is the voter I.D. to certify that the person in front of you is the person on the voter roll and not a relative or friend voting for them. I would agree that congress needs to pass a voter ID law like the one I stated above. Whether or not it would pass constitutional challenges might be a different story. The courts in the past have said voter validation is a state issue and not a federal issue. But congress does have the authority to make some election laws, so who knows.
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