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Post by bullfrog on Jun 22, 2024 9:14:10 GMT -5
Excepting a plea would give the perception of guilt. That would be admitting to fucking the porn star while he was married. No way Trump would do that. A person can plea guilty and maintain their innocence.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 22, 2024 9:24:41 GMT -5
Not in the court of public opinion.
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Post by cadman on Jun 22, 2024 10:39:36 GMT -5
Cultist group of braindead morons that cling to their guns, God, the constitution and clean moral values. I'm an absolute sicko FJB Trump really clings to God and moral values. How many times has he cheated on his wives? how many times has he cheated a contractor who did work for him? How many times has he demeaned women? He uses the bible as a fund raising tool selling $10 bibles for $70. He can't tell you one passage in the bible. He never attends church unless it is to make a campaign speech. He worships money and had a fit when Forbes takes him off his billionaire list. Trump has broken every commandment several times over. Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can an moral christian even consider such a person?
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 22, 2024 10:59:24 GMT -5
Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can a moral christian even consider such a person? Standards have changed. ( look no further than "christian" in lower case. ) There are as many opinions of what the term means as there are supposed "christian" people. The slippery slope began early: "Put your hand on the radio and feel God's power!" Prior to WW2, a priest on the radio harangued a gullible public and gained a huge audience. Television brought us a gaggle of faith-healers and blowhards, many of whom are still at it. "The Apprentice" was a fraud ... but a successful one ... and Donald Trump was the star. Unfortunately, then as now, he believes his own publicity. "A hollow drum makes the most noise." A fitting inscription for his tombstone.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 22, 2024 23:00:30 GMT -5
Cultist group of braindead morons that cling to their guns, God, the constitution and clean moral values. I'm an absolute sicko FJB Trump really clings to God and moral values. How many times has he cheated on his wives? how many times has he cheated a contractor who did work for him? How many times has he demeaned women? He uses the bible as a fund raising tool selling $10 bibles for $70. He can't tell you one passage in the bible. He never attends church unless it is to make a campaign speech. He worships money and had a fit when Forbes takes him off his billionaire list. Trump has broken every commandment several times over. Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can an moral christian even consider such a person? Biden is likely the more moral and godly man of the two, and certainly the life long, more active, Christian and church goer.
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 23, 2024 1:11:05 GMT -5
Cultist group of braindead morons that cling to their guns, God, the constitution and clean moral values. I'm an absolute sicko FJB Trump really clings to God and moral values. How many times has he cheated on his wives? how many times has he cheated a contractor who did work for him? How many times has he demeaned women? He uses the bible as a fund raising tool selling $10 bibles for $70. He can't tell you one passage in the bible. He never attends church unless it is to make a campaign speech. He worships money and had a fit when Forbes takes him off his billionaire list. Trump has broken every commandment several times over. Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can an moral christian even consider such a person? Succinctly, it's cognitive dissonance magnified by conman-induced tribalism.
Said differently, they try not to think about the hypocrisy, and when faced with it will generally either attempt to avoid or rationalize it.
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Post by meateater on Jun 23, 2024 9:25:40 GMT -5
Cultist group of braindead morons that cling to their guns, God, the constitution and clean moral values. I'm an absolute sicko FJB Trump really clings to God and moral values. How many times has he cheated on his wives? how many times has he cheated a contractor who did work for him? How many times has he demeaned women? He uses the bible as a fund raising tool selling $10 bibles for $70. He can't tell you one passage in the bible. He never attends church unless it is to make a campaign speech. He worships money and had a fit when Forbes takes him off his billionaire list. Trump has broken every commandment several times over. Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can an moral christian even consider such a person? thats easy, abortion ,, men in womens sports and bathrooms, removing the ten commandments, forcing churches to close during covid but allowing liqueur stores to remain open and dozens of more reasons. there is nothing thats godly democrats support. that was a dumb fucking question. nobody needs a dipshit like you to tell them trumps not a good example of a moral christian its very obvious but its also plain as day the democrat party wants nothing to do with any christian values and votes against god every chance they get. you cant vote democrat and be a christian if you take the bible as gods word.
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Post by meateater on Jun 23, 2024 9:28:30 GMT -5
Trump really clings to God and moral values. How many times has he cheated on his wives? how many times has he cheated a contractor who did work for him? How many times has he demeaned women? He uses the bible as a fund raising tool selling $10 bibles for $70. He can't tell you one passage in the bible. He never attends church unless it is to make a campaign speech. He worships money and had a fit when Forbes takes him off his billionaire list. Trump has broken every commandment several times over. Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can an moral christian even consider such a person? Biden is likely the more moral and godly man of the two, and certainly the life long, more active, Christian and church goer. he,s catholic, that should explain a lot of stuff to you.
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Post by cadman on Jun 23, 2024 12:11:13 GMT -5
Trump really clings to God and moral values. How many times has he cheated on his wives? how many times has he cheated a contractor who did work for him? How many times has he demeaned women? He uses the bible as a fund raising tool selling $10 bibles for $70. He can't tell you one passage in the bible. He never attends church unless it is to make a campaign speech. He worships money and had a fit when Forbes takes him off his billionaire list. Trump has broken every commandment several times over. Trump is the exact opposite of a moral godly man. How can an moral christian even consider such a person? thats easy, abortion ,, men in womens sports and bathrooms, removing the ten commandments, forcing churches to close during covid but allowing liqueur stores to remain open and dozens of more reasons. there is nothing thats godly democrats support. that was a dumb fucking question. nobody needs a dipshit like you to tell them trumps not a good example of a moral christian its very obvious but its also plain as day the democrat party wants nothing to do with any christian values and votes against god every chance they get. you cant vote democrat and be a christian if you take the bible as gods word. But Biden, But Democrats. That's all you got. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to defend your candidate rather then try and denigrate the other?
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 23, 2024 13:09:33 GMT -5
Cad sure does have an odd way of showing how much he doesn’t support either party’s candidate. 🤣
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 23, 2024 13:17:18 GMT -5
The moderator is not biased. Ask him. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 23, 2024 13:53:25 GMT -5
See, Cad: Four responses and four instances of avoiding the question.
So predictably dull.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 23, 2024 13:55:02 GMT -5
Someone doesn’t have enough fingers to count with, it seems.😆
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 23, 2024 14:00:17 GMT -5
Two from meateater, one from you, and one from IF. That's four. And not a single one of you addressed his question with anything but avoidance.
Did you graduate elementary school?
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 23, 2024 14:10:31 GMT -5
UPON FURTHER CONSIDERATION
I haven't been able to backtrack the reference to a Trump plea deal.
More likely than not, there wasn't an offer from the prosecution.
It's possible that I conflated several commentaries.
Or, confused matching aspects of the Cohen and Weisselberg cases.
That being said, my remarks about the jury instructions stand.
So do my predictions about Trumps' punishment.
He will be sentenced to jail for both the felonies, and contempt of court.
Mr. Trumps prior behavior is in play, as are his current legal problems.
Failure to admit wrongdoing, and showing no contrition, are red flags.
Few things weigh as heavily. In effect, he's giving the Court the finger.
The odds of home confinement, or probation, are less than zero.
On July 11th, he'll enter the courthouse with bombast & bravado.
He'll leave via a back door, in handcuffs.
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