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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 7:59:52 GMT -5
I read another article of Trump talking about a third term. I am pretty sure is is just political bullshit to fire up his supporters but it made me realize something. I do not think he thought this through. If he pushed to change the Constitution and repeal the 22nd amendment, does he realize any President could seek a third term and not just him? A soon as an amendment passed the Democrats would have Obama run against him and crush Trump like a bug under his shoe. Obama is 16 years younger and a lot better on the campaign trail than trump could ever hope for. He would pull most of the independent vote, black vote, women vote, etc.. It would be impossible to stop him.
It would be a slaughter. My guess is, Republicans have thought of this and there is no way they would ever consider repealing the 22nd and seeing another 4 years of Obama. I would hate to be the guy trying to explain this to Trump. "Look Mr President, you barely beat a 81 year old Biden, Obama will kick your ass and make you look like an idiot."
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Post by OhMy on Jun 16, 2024 8:03:11 GMT -5
I read another article of Trump talking about a third term. I am pretty sure is is just political bullshit to fire up his supporters but it made me realize something. I do not think he thought this through. If he pushed to change the Constitution and repeal the 22nd amendment, does he realize any President could seek a third term and not just him? A soon as an amendment passed the Democrats would have Obama run against him and crush Trump like a bug under his shoe. Obama is 16 years younger and a lot better on the campaign trail than trump could ever hope for. He would pull most of the independent vote, black vote, women vote, etc.. It would be impossible to stop him. It would be a slaughter. My guess is, Republicans have thought of this and there is no way they would ever consider repealing the 22nd and seeing another 4 years of Obama. I would hate to be the guy trying to explain this to Trump. "Look Mr President, you barely beat a 81 year old Biden, Obama will kick your ass and make you look like an idiot." We have enough issues not having term limits in congress. We should not eliminate any term limits. We should term limit the supreme court. |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 16, 2024 8:29:46 GMT -5
Universal term limits are needed. There is no reason why the entrenched politicians should remain in office more than 8 years. It only leads to a more corrupt government. Pelosi and McConnell are examples from both sides of the aisle. Neither should be in government. All politicians need to be rotated out of government every other term or every 8 years.
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 12:26:56 GMT -5
I read another article of Trump talking about a third term. I am pretty sure is is just political bullshit to fire up his supporters but it made me realize something. I do not think he thought this through. If he pushed to change the Constitution and repeal the 22nd amendment, does he realize any President could seek a third term and not just him? A soon as an amendment passed the Democrats would have Obama run against him and crush Trump like a bug under his shoe. Obama is 16 years younger and a lot better on the campaign trail than trump could ever hope for. He would pull most of the independent vote, black vote, women vote, etc.. It would be impossible to stop him. It would be a slaughter. My guess is, Republicans have thought of this and there is no way they would ever consider repealing the 22nd and seeing another 4 years of Obama. I would hate to be the guy trying to explain this to Trump. "Look Mr President, you barely beat a 81 year old Biden, Obama will kick your ass and make you look like an idiot." We have enough issues not having term limits in congress. We should not eliminate any term limits. We should term limit the supreme court. Read some of the Federalist papers Bullfrog mentioned, it gives a good defense on why justices should not have term limits. I tend to agree for justices to have life terms, the rest of them we can have term limits. I think for congress, it should be 12 years. That would be 2 terms for the Senate and 6 for the House. Now, go get started amending the constitution. |
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 12:28:21 GMT -5
Universal term limits are needed. There is no reason why the entrenched politicians should remain in office more than 8 years. It only leads to a more corrupt government. Pelosi and McConnell are examples from both sides of the aisle. Neither should be in government. All politicians need to be rotated out of government every other term or every 8 years. Considering the Senate is 6 years, I can see why there might be a reason for longer than 8. |
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Post by OhMy on Jun 16, 2024 12:32:19 GMT -5
We have enough issues not having term limits in congress. We should not eliminate any term limits. We should term limit the supreme court. Read some of the Federalist papers Bullfrog mentioned, it gives a good defense on why justices should not have term limits. I tend to agree for justices to have life terms, the rest of them we can have term limits. I think for congress, it should be 12 years. That would be 2 terms for the Senate and 6 for the House. Now, go get started amending the constitution. The problem is asking the same people we are trying to term limit to vote for term limits. I do not see it happening as everyone is in it for themselves. If this ever ended on the ballot I assure you it would pass with 80+ % of the vote. |
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 16, 2024 12:33:21 GMT -5
They do have term limits, if they no longer live up their constituents expectations they get voted out. Term limit completed.
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 12:50:58 GMT -5
Read some of the Federalist papers Bullfrog mentioned, it gives a good defense on why justices should not have term limits. I tend to agree for justices to have life terms, the rest of them we can have term limits. I think for congress, it should be 12 years. That would be 2 terms for the Senate and 6 for the House. Now, go get started amending the constitution. The problem is asking the same people we are trying to term limit to vote for term limits. I do not see it happening as everyone is in it for themselves. If this ever ended on the ballot I assure you it would pass with 80+ % of the vote. You need a constitutional amendment for term limits. Two thirds of the states could do it without congress. Just call a constitutional convention. It is decided by the state legislature, not the popular vote. |
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 12:52:02 GMT -5
They do have term limits, if they no longer live up their constituents expectations they get voted out. Term limit completed. I don't think most constituents have a clue what congress does and just votes for a name they recognize. |
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 16, 2024 13:23:47 GMT -5
They do have term limits, if they no longer live up their constituents expectations they get voted out. Term limit completed. I don't think most constituents have a clue what congress does and just votes for a name they recognize. Fools have a right to shade in a bubble. |
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 16, 2024 19:44:44 GMT -5
Donald Trump getting a "third term"?
It would depend on the location of the previous terms.
A third term might be served in Arizona, or Georgia, or Michigan.
New York, barring an act of God, has a lock on the second term.
Those Federal cases in D.C. and Florida are still in the running.
The Supremes will be singing the Blues for Mr. Trump in a few days.
If so, the DC case can be tried before the election.
Best case scenario: Trump gets 90 days in Rikers Island for Contempt of Court.
( If he shoots his mouth off, it will be more )
His sentence of imprisonment will be stayed pending appeal.
The gag orders will stay in place.
The DC trial will take place.
Trump loses the election, and faces trial in several additional jurisdictions.
Ginny Thomas, and the remaining enablers, will be indicted.
Her husband cuts a deal to resign if she's spared prison.
Extra bonus:
Lindsay Gram is discovered in flagrante delicto with migratory waterfowl.
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 19:51:58 GMT -5
Trump ain't getting no jail time, keep dreaming.
Probation at best, a fine and probation at the worst.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jun 17, 2024 0:05:55 GMT -5
Trump ain't getting no jail time, keep dreaming. Probation at best, a fine and probation at the worst. In New York probably. If anything gets him locked up it will be Georgia. |
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Post by richm on Jun 18, 2024 6:25:30 GMT -5
I don't want any of them to get a 3rd term.
Term limits are a great idea. Keep the folks at congress from being there 20-30-40 years.
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Post by meateater on Jun 18, 2024 16:09:54 GMT -5
They do have term limits, if they no longer live up their constituents expectations they get voted out. Term limit completed. |
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