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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 2, 2024 19:06:18 GMT -5
I guess you don't prosecute white collar crime. Listing a payment to a hooker though a third party as legal expense is a falsification of business records by any accountant. It can not be expensed as such. If he has paid it out of his personal funds, there would have bene no crime. It is not a legal fee by any stretch of the definition. If you make a payment on behalf of a candidate to benefit the candidate, that is a campaign contribution. If a person running for office asked you to pay for his political ads as a favor and you did, that would be a campaign contribution. You are not very objective at all in this case. You are letting your bias show. I guess you do prosecute white collar crime? So who made the payment? Was Trump paying a hooker and lying by calling it a legal fee? In which case it wouldn’t be Cohen making a campaign contribution to Trump. It can’t both be an illegal campaign contribution to Trump by a third party and Trump paying the hooker and just using the third party to do so. I actually do prosecute white collar crimes. No chance I could bring this case with a clear conscience against Obama himself. Its wrong. Its evil to use the system this way. Baltimore’s former top prosecutor spared prison for mortgage fraud and perjury In court documents, Mosby’s lawyers argued that the retirement funds came from her own income and that no one was defrauded because she paid an early withdrawal penalty and all federal taxes on the money. The government said that money remained the property of the city until she was legally eligible, and her perjury harmed everyone who followed the rules during the coronavirus pandemic.Mosby’s mortgage fraud conviction stems from a $5,000 “gift letter” she submitted when taking a loan to buy the Longboat Key property. Prosecutors said the letter falsely stated that Mosby’s husband was giving her a $5,000 gift for the closing when it actually was her own money. “Without the gift letter, the loan would never have been provided and Ms. Mosby would not have obtained the property. No gift letter, no loan,” prosecutors wrote.Federal prosecutors also said she deserves prison because unlike others convicted of white-collar crimes, she’s expressed no remorse or contrition and has tried to delegitimize the case against her.“Ms. Mosby was charged and convicted because she chose to repeatedly break the law, not because of her politics or policies,” prosecutors wrote.apnews.com/article/marilyn-mosby-baltimore-prosecutor-sentencing-8f2419edd3ff404cdf24434777e6eefe
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 2, 2024 19:14:24 GMT -5
Boy Cad showing how silly he is AGAIN!. What part of yes he did all that but the only crime is small ball semantics. Many people like Charles Rangel, Obamas brother, and Al Sharpton have done worse but are never charged, by the IRS. The prosecution twisted every way possible to bring down a candidate. And this is all they have, a tiny bookkeeping error that both Hillary and Obama where fined for by the FEC which has jurisdiction over such matters. Hillary paid for the Steele dossier through Perkins Coie by check labeled legal expense. This was only for election interference and harmed the country. Yet, she was not prosecuted. So forgive us your FAKE outrage. Hope the IRS never looks at your taxes. Since you are such a stickler for perfection!!!!! Cad is so perfect he has never broken the speed limit. Total boy scout.
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Post by cadman on Jun 2, 2024 19:15:06 GMT -5
I guess you don't prosecute white collar crime. Listing a payment to a hooker though a third party as legal expense is a falsification of business records by any accountant. It can not be expensed as such. If he has paid it out of his personal funds, there would have bene no crime. It is not a legal fee by any stretch of the definition. If you make a payment on behalf of a candidate to benefit the candidate, that is a campaign contribution. If a person running for office asked you to pay for his political ads as a favor and you did, that would be a campaign contribution. You are not very objective at all in this case. You are letting your bias show. I guess you do prosecute white collar crime? So who made the payment? Was Trump paying a hooker and lying by calling it a legal fee? In which case it wouldn’t be Cohen making a campaign contribution to Trump. It can’t both be an illegal campaign contribution to Trump by a third party and Trump paying the hooker and just using the third party to do so. I actually do prosecute white collar crimes. No chance I could bring this case with a clear conscience against Obama himself. Its wrong. Its evil to use the system this way. Do you have any idea what the trial was about? Pecker paid McDougal out of his pocket and Trump was going to reimburse him. Pecker's attorney said that was illegal, so Pecker said do not reimburse me, I did it as a favor to your campaign. That was the unreported campaign contribution. Trump told Cohen to pay Stormy and he would reimburse him plus some extra to take care of taxes. That was the false entry as legal expenses since Cohen performed no legal services for the money. Two different people making payments to two different women. One was a gift, the other got reimbursed. Even Pecker's lawyer knew Trump was up to illegal shit and told his client to back away from it. I have done enough accounting work to know hooker payoffs are not legal expenses or even legitimate business expenses.
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 2, 2024 19:23:33 GMT -5
I guess you do prosecute white collar crime? So who made the payment? Was Trump paying a hooker and lying by calling it a legal fee? In which case it wouldn’t be Cohen making a campaign contribution to Trump. It can’t both be an illegal campaign contribution to Trump by a third party and Trump paying the hooker and just using the third party to do so. I actually do prosecute white collar crimes. No chance I could bring this case with a clear conscience against Obama himself. Its wrong. Its evil to use the system this way. Do you have any idea what the trial was about? Pecker paid McDougal out of his pocket and Trump was going to reimburse him. Pecker's attorney said that was illegal, so Pecker said do not reimburse me, I did it as a favor to your campaign. That was the unreported campaign contribution. Trump told Cohen to pay Stormy and he would reimburse him plus some extra to take care of taxes. That was the false entry as legal expenses since Cohen performed no legal services for the money. Two different people making payments to two different women. One was a gift, the other got reimbursed. Even Pecker's lawyer knew Trump was up to illegal shit and told his client to back away from it. I do not believe Trump said those words. Even so it is not that big of a crime. Cohen's embezzlement was a larger crime but funny they only wanted a scarlet F on Trump which is going to go away like a fart in the wind. Except to blatant insane hatters like yourself!
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 2, 2024 19:27:05 GMT -5
I guess you do prosecute white collar crime? So who made the payment? Was Trump paying a hooker and lying by calling it a legal fee? In which case it wouldn’t be Cohen making a campaign contribution to Trump. It can’t both be an illegal campaign contribution to Trump by a third party and Trump paying the hooker and just using the third party to do so. I actually do prosecute white collar crimes. No chance I could bring this case with a clear conscience against Obama himself. Its wrong. Its evil to use the system this way. Do you have any idea what the trial was about? Pecker paid McDougal out of his pocket and Trump was going to reimburse him. Pecker's attorney said that was illegal, so Pecker said do not reimburse me, I did it as a favor to your campaign. That was the unreported campaign contribution. Trump told Cohen to pay Stormy and he would reimburse him plus some extra to take care of taxes. That was the false entry as legal expenses since Cohen performed no legal services for the money. Two different people making payments to two different women. One was a gift, the other got reimbursed. Even Pecker's lawyer knew Trump was up to illegal shit and told his client to back away from it. I have done enough accounting work to know hooker payoffs are not legal expenses or even legitimate business expenses. Why lie and say Trump said he would reimburse him plus extra. The way I understood Cohen's testimony he did it on his own. Trump did not say those words!
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 2, 2024 19:31:05 GMT -5
Funny there was no violence after the verdict. Hope the left reacts the same way when they lose in November. True, that J6 shit set a bad example of a peaceful transfer of power.
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 2, 2024 19:32:54 GMT -5
Funny there was no violence after the verdict. Hope the left reacts the same way when they lose in November. True, that J6 shit set a bad example of a peaceful transfer of power. Come on Newman you can do better. That was a poor attempt. I got a chunky for ya
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 2, 2024 19:41:56 GMT -5
Raisins are gross, but my post pretty much sums it up. Patting yourself on the back for not burning shit to the ground is a very low bar.
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 2, 2024 19:53:33 GMT -5
Raisins are gross, but my post pretty much sums it up. Patting yourself on the back for not burning shit to the ground is a very low bar. Come on Newman you know it as one window and a mirror. Never heard of a fire or looting except when dems "peacefully protest" And you are correct Rasins are gross.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 2, 2024 19:53:43 GMT -5
True. Not a bar so low that some groups of liberal extremists couldn’t clear it, several years back though.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 2, 2024 20:46:32 GMT -5
I guess you do prosecute white collar crime? So who made the payment? Was Trump paying a hooker and lying by calling it a legal fee? In which case it wouldn’t be Cohen making a campaign contribution to Trump. It can’t both be an illegal campaign contribution to Trump by a third party and Trump paying the hooker and just using the third party to do so. I actually do prosecute white collar crimes. No chance I could bring this case with a clear conscience against Obama himself. Its wrong. Its evil to use the system this way. Do you have any idea what the trial was about? Pecker paid McDougal out of his pocket and Trump was going to reimburse him. Pecker's attorney said that was illegal, so Pecker said do not reimburse me, I did it as a favor to your campaign. That was the unreported campaign contribution. Trump told Cohen to pay Stormy and he would reimburse him plus some extra to take care of taxes. That was the false entry as legal expenses since Cohen performed no legal services for the money. Two different people making payments to two different women. One was a gift, the other got reimbursed. Even Pecker's lawyer knew Trump was up to illegal shit and told his client to back away from it. I have done enough accounting work to know hooker payoffs are not legal expenses or even legitimate business expenses. It was a hush money settlement, not actually buying the hooker for her sex services. The act in question was Cohen, Trump’s attorney, negotiating a legally binding contract between Daniels and the Enquirer for the Enquirer to buy her story in exchange for her signing a non-disclosure agreement. Trump paid Cohen a sum nearly 4 times the amount of the settlement. So for your stance to be consistent, you would have to admit that had he called the expenditure “legal fees plus hush money to porn star,” there would be no business records crime, correct?
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Post by richm on Jun 2, 2024 21:09:56 GMT -5
It just shows how new trump was to politics. Bill & Hill woulda buried her. Trump has a long ways to go.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 2, 2024 22:10:36 GMT -5
After watching this trial and its outcome, how does anyone conclude that the 2020 election wasnt also rigged?
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 2, 2024 22:28:02 GMT -5
You just hit the nail on the head
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 3, 2024 0:05:55 GMT -5
You just hit the nail on the head More like the shit hitting the fan. How many post election lawsuits were tossed by Republican judges? Not a single court in the entire country saw a Single Piece of Evidence! None ... Zip ... Zero ! Over 50 cases tossed out! Fox forked over $700 million for lying about it! If they had a case, they would have presented it ... but they didn't have jack shit! Neither does any other election denier ... pushing a modern version of "Flat Earth".
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