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Post by misterjr on May 17, 2024 12:15:52 GMT -5
Has Trump, or anyone on the right, proven the election was stolen. Trump continues to repeat it.
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Post by tampaspicer on May 17, 2024 12:20:51 GMT -5
Crickets
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Post by biminitwisted on May 17, 2024 13:34:57 GMT -5
They don't even realize the small bubble that they live in, and that America sees through, and is tired of their schtick.
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Post by nuevowavo on May 17, 2024 13:48:03 GMT -5
The only reason anyone thinks that the election was stolen is because Trump said it was.
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Post by richm on May 17, 2024 14:26:40 GMT -5
I didn't like the election counts all stopping in the middle of the night w trump leading and then resuming with Biden now leading. Also didn't like the videos showing them sending the observers home and then pulling out suitcases full of ballots. Figured things would shake out and nothing did.
I really thought it was odd that Pelosi and Schumer kept saying, every vote will be counted. Don't remember them doing that before in years past.
There is no way for any of us to certify that chit or to say how stuff went down. Either you want to think it was true or you don't.
Still think that since our election process allows early voting and mail in voting - that they should both be completed & counted before election day. Let the polls stay open until "9" and then counting is done by say 12 Pacific time. Anyone who didn't care enough to get their early votes/mail in votes in early enough to be counted don't need to be holding up the election results for a week or more. Set some rules and follow them.
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Post by cyclist on May 17, 2024 14:34:10 GMT -5
I didn't like the election counts all stopping in the middle of the night w trump leading and then resuming with Biden now leading. Also didn't like the videos showing them sending the observers home and then pulling out suitcases full of ballots. Figured things would shake out and nothing did. I really thought it was odd that Pelosi and Schumer kept saying, every vote will be counted. Don't remember them doing that before in years past. There is no way for any of us to certify that chit or to say how stuff went down. Either you want to think it was true or you don't. Still think that since our election process allows early voting and mail in voting - that they should both be completed & counted before election day. Let the polls stay open until "9" and then counting is done by say 12 Pacific time. Anyone who didn't care enough to get their early votes/mail in votes in early enough to be counted don't need to be holding up the election results for a week or more. Set some rules and follow them. Elections are pretty rock solid, the stuff you mention is either a lie, a description by someone who has no friggon clue what they are talking about, or have been discounted by the truth. I'm not calling you a liar, but your thoughts and feelings, not facts, are based on garbage that you have been fed by trump and other constitution hating traitors. And yes we know it didn't go down as you think because the paper trail and checks and balances worked...that is why the trump traitors constantly failed in court.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 17, 2024 14:40:11 GMT -5
For fuck's sake. We lost count of all the recounts in Georgia, and a couple of other states. Always the victims. Must be exhausting and clearly bad for one's disposition.
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Post by cyclist on May 17, 2024 14:42:12 GMT -5
For fuck's sake. We lost count of all the recounts in Georgia, and a couple of other states. Always the victims. Must be exhausting and clearly bad for one's disposition. Pretty funny that almost every single recount found more votes for Biden. If these magaa traitors pulled this shit 200 years ago they would have faced a firing squad!
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Post by biminitwisted on May 17, 2024 14:56:22 GMT -5
For fuck's sake. We lost count of all the recounts in Georgia, and a couple of other states. Always the victims. Must be exhausting and clearly bad for one's disposition. Pretty funny that almost every single recount found more votes for Biden. If these magaa traitors pulled this shit 200 years ago they would have faced a firing squad! Not to mention they happily accepted as legit the count on their down ballot races where the GOP won. On the same freaking ballot!
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Post by biminitwisted on May 17, 2024 14:56:35 GMT -5
John Eastman Arrested & Arraigned in AZ
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Post by garycoleco on May 17, 2024 15:18:06 GMT -5
Has Trump, or anyone on the right, proven the election was stolen. Trump continues to repeat it. Only an idiot believes 155 million votes were cast.
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Post by misterjr on May 17, 2024 15:24:27 GMT -5
The U.S. Elections Project estimates that 66.5 percent of eligible voters cast ballots this year—the highest percentage in decades.
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Post by cyclist on May 17, 2024 15:29:14 GMT -5
Has Trump, or anyone on the right, proven the election was stolen. Trump continues to repeat it. Only an idiot believes 155 million votes were cast. I think you are the idiot on this one.
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Post by garycoleco on May 17, 2024 15:35:55 GMT -5
Only an idiot believes 155 million votes were cast. I think you are the idiot on this one. Your record is already set in stone. You have zero credibility. Even your links can't be trusted. Straight to jail my guy
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Post by biminitwisted on May 17, 2024 15:42:47 GMT -5
I think you are the idiot on this one. Your record is already set in stone. You have zero credibility. Even your links can't be trusted. Straight to jail my guyYou mean like just today, John Eastman, Trump's top guy on this very issue?
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Post by cyclist on May 17, 2024 15:43:08 GMT -5
I think you are the idiot on this one. Your record is already set in stone. You have zero credibility. Even your links can't be trusted. Straight to jail my guy The trump traitor has gall, gotta hand it to you...doubling down on dumbfuckness.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 17, 2024 15:44:04 GMT -5
Your record is already set in stone. You have zero credibility. Even your links can't be trusted. Straight to jail my guy The trump traitor has gall, gotta hand it to you...doubling down on dumbfuckness.
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Post by richm on May 17, 2024 17:19:14 GMT -5
I didn't like the election counts all stopping in the middle of the night w trump leading and then resuming with Biden now leading. Also didn't like the videos showing them sending the observers home and then pulling out suitcases full of ballots. Figured things would shake out and nothing did. I really thought it was odd that Pelosi and Schumer kept saying, every vote will be counted. Don't remember them doing that before in years past. There is no way for any of us to certify that chit or to say how stuff went down. Either you want to think it was true or you don't. Still think that since our election process allows early voting and mail in voting - that they should both be completed & counted before election day. Let the polls stay open until "9" and then counting is done by say 12 Pacific time. Anyone who didn't care enough to get their early votes/mail in votes in early enough to be counted don't need to be holding up the election results for a week or more. Set some rules and follow them. Elections are pretty rock solid, the stuff you mention is either a lie, a description by someone who has no friggon clue what they are talking about, or have been discounted by the truth. I'm not calling you a liar, but your thoughts and feelings, not facts, are based on garbage that you have been fed by trump and other constitution hating traitors. And yes we know it didn't go down as you think because the paper trail and checks and balances worked...that is why the trump traitors constantly failed in court. My thoughts & feeling are based on me, not Trump. I spoke about what I and you saw and heard during the election. You can google it and watch it all over again if you'd like. I don't like that chit and to me it invalidates the process. They had one job and couldn't get it done without shenanigans. I'm not a Trumpster or a Maga or anything like that. I would definitely prefer folks other than Trump or Biden on the ballot, but that's not the case. I will not vote for Biden - we have some serious repercussions coming from all the "immigrants" and the inflation increased costs will forever be with us and it just really pisses me off that some mentally damaged guys and competing in female sports and the govt & judicial system are siding with them. That's fooked up. 10 years ago some boyfriends woulda kicked their asses and now they are a protected class. Your president, not mine.
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Post by garycoleco on May 17, 2024 19:21:39 GMT -5
Your record is already set in stone. You have zero credibility. Even your links can't be trusted. Straight to jail my guy The trump traitor has gall, gotta hand it to you...doubling down on dumbfuckness. Are you in prison yet? Every second you're on the loose is a detriment to this beautiful country
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Post by misterjr on May 18, 2024 7:27:05 GMT -5
I could not make this up. After crying that mail-in voting cost him the election, the GOP is now encouraging voters to use mail-in voting. After blaming his 2020 loss on mail balloting, Trump tries to make GOP voters believe it’s OK nowMarta Moehring voted the way she prefers in Nebraska’s Republican primary Tuesday — in person, at her west Omaha polling place. She didn’t even consider taking advantage of the state’s no-excuse mail-in ballot process. In fact, she would prefer to do away with mail-in voting altogether. She’s convinced fraudulent mailed ballots cost former President Donald Trump a second term in 2020. “I don’t trust it in general,” Moehring, 62, said. “I don’t think they’re counted correctly.” But now Republican officials — even, sometimes, Trump — are encouraging voters such as Moehring to cast their ballots by mail. The GOP has launched an effort to, in the words of one official, “correct the narrative” on mail voting and get those who were turned off to it by Trump to reconsider for this year’s election. The push is a striking change for a party that amplified dark rumors about mail ballots to explain away Trump’s 2020 loss, but it is also seen as a necessary course correction for an election this year that is likely to be decided by razor-thin margins in a handful of swing states. “We have to get right on using these mail-in ballots for the people who can’t get there on Election Day,” Rep. Scott Perry, one of Trump’s strongest congressional allies in his push to overturn the 2020 election, said at a conservative gathering in his home state of Pennsylvania. Republicans once were at least as likely as Democrats to vote by mail, but Trump changed the dynamics in 2020. He preemptively began to argue that mail balloting was bad months before voting began in the presidential race. That alarmed GOP strategists who saw mail voting as an advantage in campaigns because it lets them “bank” unreliable votes before Election Day and lowers the risk of turnout plummeting because of bad weather or other unpredictable factors at the polls. Trump’s own campaign tried to sell Republicans on casting ballots by mail, but his voters listened to the then-president. In 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Democrats were vastly more likely to cast ballots by mail than Republicans. Seriously, how can anyone want these wishy-washy idiots to govern America? www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/05/17/after-blaming-his-2020-loss-on-mail-balloting-trump-tries-to-make-gop-voters-believe-its-ok-now/
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:11:12 GMT -5
It’s simple. The republicans are learning how to play the game. They were barely beaten by the democrats because they were better at “the game”.
This time around they realized they HAVE TO play by the new rules and they have to watch the polls and vote counting very very closely.
There will still be cheating but it will be harder this time and hopefully much less cheating will be gotten away with.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:14:13 GMT -5
Want honest and fair elections?
Mail in voting ONLY for active service members, Election Day will be a National Holiday.
Voting ONLY on Election Day.
Do you think the Democrats will accept this?
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Post by misterjr on May 18, 2024 8:21:50 GMT -5
I'm a Democrat and agree election day should be a holiday. My mother is 95 years old, how do you expect her to get to the polls? She votes Republican every year by mail.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:38:36 GMT -5
I'm a Democrat and agree election day should be a holiday. My mother is 95 years old, how do you expect her to get to the polls? She votes Republican every year by mail. Ok, I forgot the persons that can’t make it to the polling place because of illness and/or infirmity. They have to be allowed to vote remotely. But mail in voting should never be allowed as a convenience. Never!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:41:07 GMT -5
By the way when my father was 95 he insisted that I take him to the polling place and let him vote in person. So I rolled him in (masked up) in a wheelchair. He looked upon voting as a privilege and an honor.
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Post by misterjr on May 18, 2024 8:45:53 GMT -5
Noncitizen voting, already illegal in federal elections, becomes a centerpiece of 2024 GOP messagingNEW YORK (AP) — One political party is holding urgent news conferences and congressional hearings over the topic. The other says it’s a dangerous distraction meant to seed doubts before this year’s presidential election. In recent months, the specter of immigrants voting illegally in the U.S. has erupted into a leading election-year talking point for Republicans. They argue that legislation is necessary to protect the sanctity of the vote as the country faces unprecedented levels of illegal immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border. Voting by people who are not U.S. citizens already is illegal in federal elections and there is no indication it’s happening anywhere in significant numbers. Yet Republican lawmakers at the federal and state levels are throwing their energy behind the issue, introducing legislation and fall ballot measures. The activity ensures the issue will remain at the forefront of voters’ minds in the months ahead. Republicans in Congress are pushing a bill called the SAVE (Safeguard American Voter Eligibility) Act that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Meanwhile, Republican legislatures in at least six states have placed noncitizen voting measures on the Nov. 5 ballot, while at least two more are debating whether to do so. “American elections are for American citizens, and we intend to keep it that way,” House Administration Committee Chairman Rep. Bryan Steil of Wisconsin said during a hearing he hosted on the topic this past week. Democrats on the committee lambasted their Republican colleagues for focusing on what they called a “nonissue,” arguing it was part of a strategy with former President Donald Trump to lay the groundwork for election challenges this fall. “It appears the lesson Republicans learned from the fiasco that the former president caused in 2020 was not ‘Don’t steal an election’ — it was just ‘Start earlier,’” said New York Rep. Joe Morelle, the committee’s top Democrat. “The coup starts here. This is where it begins.” The concern that immigrants who are not eligible to vote are illegally casting ballots has prevailed on the right for years. But it gained renewed attention earlier this year when Trump began suggesting without evidence that Democrats were encouraging illegal migration to the U.S. so they could register the newcomers to vote. Republicans who have been vocal about voting by those who are not citizens have demurred when asked for evidence that it’s a problem. Last week, during a news conference on his federal legislation to require proof of citizenship during voter registration, House Speaker Mike Johnson couldn’t provide examples of the crime happening.“The answer is that it’s unanswerable,” the Louisiana Republican said in response to a question about whether such people were illegally voting. “We all know, intuitively, that a lot of illegals are voting in federal elections, but it’s not been something that is easily provable.” Election administration experts say it’s not only provable, but it’s been demonstrated that the number of noncitizens voting in federal elections is infinitesimal.
To be clear, there have been cases over the years of noncitizens illegally registering and even casting ballots. But states have mechanisms to catch that. Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose recently found 137 suspected noncitizens on the state’s rolls — out of roughly 8 million voters — and is taking action to confirm and remove them, he announced this past week. In 2022, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, conducted an audit of his state’s voter rolls specifically looking for noncitizens. His office found that 1,634 had attempted to register to vote over a period of 25 years, but election officials had caught all the applications and none had been able to register. In North Carolina in 2016, an audit of elections found that 41 legal immigrants who had not yet become citizens cast ballots, out of 4.8 million total ballots cast. The votes didn’t make a difference in any of the state’s elections. apnews.com/article/voting-immigrants-noncitizen-trump-republicans-2024-1c65429c152c2a10514b5156eacf9ca7
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Post by misterjr on May 18, 2024 8:47:58 GMT -5
In summary, Donald Trump has made the current members of the GOP in Congress look like idiots.
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Post by walkerdog on May 18, 2024 10:53:41 GMT -5
Agree with Rich that the management of the election process is poor.
Partly by design, I believe.
There is no good reason absentee votes shouldn’t be in and counted by the night of the election. I believe that, if we want the convenience of voting early, it should be required that the absentee ballots be counted early as well. Only exceptions would be for those that absentee voting was originally intended to benefit.
Everyone else just needs to quit being lazy and have it in early enough to be counted on time.
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Post by tonyroma on May 18, 2024 10:59:51 GMT -5
Agree with Rich that the management of the election process is poor. Partly by design, I believe. There is no good reason absentee votes shouldn’t be in and counted by the night of the election. I believe that, if we want the convenience of voting early, it should be required that the absentee ballots be counted early as well. Only exceptions would be for those that absentee voting was originally intended to benefit. Everyone else just needs to quit being lazy and have it in early enough to be counted on time. Never understood why some states don’t start counting them until Election Day.
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Post by misterjr on May 18, 2024 11:04:55 GMT -5
It's only poor when Trump loses.
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