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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 17:06:11 GMT -5
No one really believes that this will not be immediately reversed. Kangaroo court has destroyed the reputation of the American legal system.
We will see who laughs last.
Trumps donation website has crashed. This will be his biggest donation date ever.
God bless America. Now we need God to save America. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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Post by osprey11 on May 30, 2024 17:06:25 GMT -5
Not illegal to pay a hooker to shut up, Obama and Hillary both got caught and paid a fine to the FEC which has jurisdiction over ALL election matters. It happened after his election and if it was for his image as well as political image. He is innocent. Yet neither one attempted to write it off as legal expenses No Hillary just paid for Russian disinformation to 100% interfere with an election! |
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Post by osprey11 on May 30, 2024 17:07:54 GMT -5
Not illegal to pay a hooker to shut up, Obama and Hillary both got caught and paid a fine to the FEC which has jurisdiction over ALL election matters. It happened after his election and if it was for his image as well as political image. He is innocent. Yet neither one attempted to write it off as legal expenses Actually the check Hillary wrote to Perkins Coie for the Steele dossier was labeled legal expense. FACT! |
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Post by misterjr on May 30, 2024 17:08:56 GMT -5
It's not over Trump currently faces three other criminal cases: two federal, dealing with his handling of classified documents and his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and a state case in Georgia that concerns election interference.
Lock up that criminal.
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 17:09:12 GMT -5
Cad can you explain the second crime he was just convicted of? Not one of a possible three, but the actual crime. As I said on the other thread, I hope they release that part of the jury decision at some point. A legal "expert" on the ABC live I was watching on YouTube said it was the campaign violation, but the may have been guessing. What I think, at this point, is immaterial. All that matters is what the jury decided and they had to agree there was a secondary crime. I want to know what they thought it was. this is from a news article about the decision Prosecutors alleged that the secondary crime is a New York election law that criminalizes conspiracy “to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”
The unlawful means identified by prosecutors were violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act, the falsification of other business records, or violations of tax laws. Judge Juan Merchan ruled that the jury did not have to unanimously agree on what the “unlawful means” was. |
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Post by misterjr on May 30, 2024 17:10:31 GMT -5
Yet neither one attempted to write it off as legal expenses No Hillary just paid for Russian disinformation to 100% interfere with an election! Hillary made Trump a criminal.  |
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 17:11:27 GMT -5
No one really believes that this will not be immediately reversed. Kangaroo court has destroyed the reputation of the American legal system. We will see who laughs last. Trumps donation website has crashed. This will be his biggest donation date ever. God bless America. Now we need God to save America. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 It will be months before the appeals process plays out. Nothing will be immediate. |
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Post by osprey11 on May 30, 2024 17:11:56 GMT -5
Cad can you explain the second crime he was just convicted of? Not one of a possible three, but the actual crime. As I said on the other thread, I hope they release that part of the jury decision at some point. A legal "expert" on the ABC live I was watching on YouTube said it was the campaign violation, but the may have been guessing. What I think, at this point, is immaterial. All that matters is what the jury decided and they had to agree there was a secondary crime. I want to know what they thought it was. this is from a news article about the decision Prosecutors alleged that the secondary crime is a New York election law that criminalizes conspiracy “to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”
The unlawful means identified by prosecutors were violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act, the falsification of other business records, or violations of tax laws. Judge Juan Merchan ruled that the jury did not have to unanimously agree on what the “unlawful means” was. Sooo they convicted a former president and we dont know 100% what the actual crimes are. Sounds fair. And didnt the FEC which has jurisdiction choose not to charge? |
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 17:14:05 GMT -5
For some reason, they are making a big deal out of whether or not Trump gets to vote. Trump will be allowed to vote since the conviction was in New York and they allow felons to vote even though Trump is a Florida resident.
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 17:16:44 GMT -5
As I said on the other thread, I hope they release that part of the jury decision at some point. A legal "expert" on the ABC live I was watching on YouTube said it was the campaign violation, but the may have been guessing. What I think, at this point, is immaterial. All that matters is what the jury decided and they had to agree there was a secondary crime. I want to know what they thought it was. this is from a news article about the decision Prosecutors alleged that the secondary crime is a New York election law that criminalizes conspiracy “to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”
The unlawful means identified by prosecutors were violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act, the falsification of other business records, or violations of tax laws. Judge Juan Merchan ruled that the jury did not have to unanimously agree on what the “unlawful means” was. Sooo they convicted a former president and we dont know 100% what the actual crimes are. Sounds fair. And didnt the FEC which has jurisdiction choose not to charge? We know the crimes he was convicted of, all 34 of them. We do not know the secondary crime that made it a felony yet. |
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Post by osprey11 on May 30, 2024 17:20:16 GMT -5
Well bottom line I know and you know it will be overturned on appeal.
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Post by tonyroma on May 30, 2024 17:24:49 GMT -5
The goal was the ability to label him “ former president and convicted felon”. I don’t think the juice was worth the squeeze.
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Post by tonyroma on May 30, 2024 17:26:38 GMT -5
Well bottom line I know and you know it will be overturned on appeal. Ya, in 2026. |
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 17:28:16 GMT -5
Well bottom line I know and you know it will be overturned on appeal. i give it a 50/50 chance, but that will be long after the election is over. It will be with New York’s First Judicial Department appellate court. so he will still be dealing with the State of New York and New York Judges. I do not think that guarantees anything. |
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Post by osprey11 on May 30, 2024 17:33:35 GMT -5
Well bottom line I know and you know it will be overturned on appeal. i give it a 50/50 chance, but that will be long after the election is over. It will be with New York’s First Judicial Department appellate court. so he will still be dealing with the State of New York and New York Judges. I do not think that guarantees anything. Since it involved a federal election crime or federal tax, I'm guessing the Supremes may get this after NY is over |
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Post by PolarsStepdad on May 30, 2024 17:35:47 GMT -5
No one really believes that this will not be immediately reversed. Kangaroo court has destroyed the reputation of the American legal system. We will see who laughs last. Trumps donation website has crashed. This will be his biggest donation date ever. God bless America. Now we need God to save America. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 1 God is not going to save America 2 Trump is not God's anointed any more than Biden is. If God's will could not be done with Trump in there then he never would be there to begin with. If God's will coukd not be done without Biden in there then he never would have been. That's a very tough leason that Nebuchadnezzar had to learn the hard way. And one that I wished our leaders knew and understood. |
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 17:43:14 GMT -5
i give it a 50/50 chance, but that will be long after the election is over. It will be with New York’s First Judicial Department appellate court. so he will still be dealing with the State of New York and New York Judges. I do not think that guarantees anything. Since it involved a federal election crime or federal tax, I'm guessing the Supremes may get this after NY is over He wasn't convicted of any federal crimes, but Trump could ask SCOTUS to weigh in based on constitutional issue, I would assume. But Trump has to go through New York’s Court of Appeals after the appellate court and that could be more than a year from now. Assuming he loses at both state levels. His probation may be over before SCOTUS ever gets to hear it. |
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Post by Tarponator on May 30, 2024 18:31:41 GMT -5
LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! Ain't karma a bitch?
lololol
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Post by hig on May 30, 2024 18:44:42 GMT -5
Just for fun, check Google to see what civil rights Floridians lose when they are convicted of a felony. One of the restrictions is that they can no longer hold public office. Does that mean that citizen Trump can not hold any public office? Even if it's decided that the law only applies to Florida, doesn't that mean that citizen Trump cannot be on any ballot in the state of Florida?
Maybe Bullfrog can help clarify this question.
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Post by luapnor on May 30, 2024 18:56:02 GMT -5
The Democrats just guaranteed a trump win in November and maybe more.
Stupid is as stupid does, the dims just can't help themselves.
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Post by OhMy on May 30, 2024 18:59:55 GMT -5
Nobody can guarantee a win in November in this political climate.
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 19:10:20 GMT -5
Just for fun, check Google to see what civil rights Floridians lose when they are convicted of a felony. One of the restrictions is that they can no longer hold public office. Does that mean that citizen Trump can not hold any public office? Even if it's decided that the law only applies to Florida, doesn't that mean that citizen Trump cannot be on any ballot in the state of Florida? Maybe Bullfrog can help clarify this question. I doubt it affects federal elections. I did hear them speak of whether Trump could vote as a convicted felon and in that case Florida defers to the laws in the state where the conviction occurred and Trump could vote due to that. That may also apply to your question. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 19:19:02 GMT -5
Show your displeasure with this lawfare
Donate Trump
Get all your friends to donate to Trump
Make this outrage the catalyst for record Trump fundraising. Show your outrage. Donate TRUMP !
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Post by dragonbait on May 30, 2024 19:33:11 GMT -5
We just got a flash flood advisory due to all the MAGAts tears
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Post by cyclist on May 30, 2024 19:49:51 GMT -5
The Democrats just guaranteed a trump win in November and maybe more. Stupid is as stupid does, the dims just can't help themselves. Only 35% or so of all registered voters are trumps base, not many swing voters will vote for a traitor felon with a sex charge... |
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Post by cyclist on May 30, 2024 19:50:51 GMT -5
Show your displeasure with this lawfare Donate Trump Get all your friends to donate to Trump Make this outrage the catalyst for record Trump fundraising. Show your outrage. Donate TRUMP ! LOL...pathetic. |
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Post by Tarponator on May 30, 2024 21:09:03 GMT -5
Show your displeasure with this lawfare Donate Trump Get all your friends to donate to Trump Make this outrage the catalyst for record Trump fundraising. Show your outrage. Donate TRUMP ! You pitching in your own money, or just cheerleading for suckers again? |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2024 4:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by gandy on May 31, 2024 6:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by gandy on May 31, 2024 6:15:00 GMT -5
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