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Post by cadman on May 14, 2024 8:36:28 GMT -5
Someone should really check that out. Know any partisan GOP Special Councils? From NPR: "Biden relied on his notebooks in particular while writing his memoir Promise Me, Dad, which was published in 2017 and reflects on the year his older son Beau died of cancer, two years earlier. In conversations with his ghostwriter for the book, he read from those notebooks — and on at least three occasions shared classified material while doing so." And: "In his interview for the special counsel investigation, Biden was "emphatic, declaring that his notebooks are 'my property,' and that ' every president before me has done the exact same thing,' that is, kept handwritten materials after his term in office, even if they contain classified material." Problem: Biden was not president when he took those classified documents. Maybe someone should explain the timeline to him. www.npr.org/2024/02/09/1230333392/biden-classified-documents-highlightsHe still falls under the Presidential Records Act just as Trump did. If you read the counsel's report, it discusses that previous Presidents and VPs took their notebooks, some which contained classified materials and had to be returned and some past Presidents, like Reagan kept them for years without any issue.
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Post by cadman on May 14, 2024 8:42:38 GMT -5
Is it your claim that a VP can legally take classified documents home with him? How would that legally happen? Same reason other previous Previous Presidents and VP did it. Reagan kept his notes, which contained classified information, for years and nothing happened to him. Aides help pack boxes and shit gets packed that should not have. The VP falls under the same rules as the President as far as the Presidential Records Act goes. Also, the VP has the authority to declassify documents, so using Trump logic, maybe Biden declassified the documents by thinking it, just as Trump claimed he did. Maybe you should read the report, look at the actual laws and not listen to what Trump says for once in your life.
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Post by meateater on May 14, 2024 8:53:38 GMT -5
Is it your claim that a VP can legally take classified documents home with him? How would that legally happen? Same reason other previous Previous Presidents and VP did it. Reagan kept his notes, which contained classified information, for years and nothing happened to him. Aides help pack boxes and shit gets packed that should not have. The VP falls under the same rules as the President as far as the Presidential Records Act goes. Also, the VP has the authority to declassify documents, so using Trump logic, maybe Biden declassified the documents by thinking it, just as Trump claimed he did. Maybe you should read the report, look at the actual laws and not listen to what Trump says for once in your life. so the cover sheets marked top secret, classified , the picture of the files laid out on the floor that every news agency showed us for a year was fake, im no lawyer but if they did in fact lay those cover sheets on top of the files they recovered could be tampering with evidence, this case is going in the shitter along with the good people of fulton counties case. the only shot you got is stormies case and nobody cares bout that.
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Post by johngalt on May 14, 2024 9:32:20 GMT -5
Is it your claim that a VP can legally take classified documents home with him? How would that legally happen? Same reason other previous Previous Presidents and VP did it. Reagan kept his notes, which contained classified information, for years and nothing happened to him. Aides help pack boxes and shit gets packed that should not have. The VP falls under the same rules as the President as far as the Presidential Records Act goes. Also, the VP has the authority to declassify documents, so using Trump logic, maybe Biden declassified the documents by thinking it, just as Trump claimed he did. Maybe you should read the report, look at the actual laws and not listen to what Trump says for once in your life. Wrong. A Vice President does not have the authority to declassify classified documents including those marked TopSecret. Unless the said VP becomes POTUS in same administration.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 14, 2024 10:00:54 GMT -5
Some people just believe any crap that the Biden Administration spoon feeds them. Anything they say is true and anything that doesn’t fit their narrative is false.
Hmmmm …….. this sounds just like what they say about the Trump supporters doesn’t it ? ? ?
Yes that’s their game accuse the Pubs of exactly what they are doing. Over and over again.
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Post by ferris1248 on May 14, 2024 10:56:53 GMT -5
No comment
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Post by cyclist on May 14, 2024 11:58:23 GMT -5
Some people just believe any crap that the Biden Administration spoon feeds them. Anything they say is true and anything that doesn’t fit their narrative is false. Hmmmm …….. this sounds just like what they say about the Trump supporters doesn’t it ? ? ? Yes that’s their game accuse the Pubs of exactly what they are doing. Over and over again. When the magaa traitors lied time and tied again and cried wolf time and time again, who has issues with their self induced irrelevance.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 14, 2024 13:18:28 GMT -5
It's a conspiracy that only those not infected by the deep state can grasp, seems to be a universal fallback position explaining anything they're delusional about.
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Post by dragonbait on May 14, 2024 13:48:21 GMT -5
Same reason other previous Previous Presidents and VP did it. Reagan kept his notes, which contained classified information, for years and nothing happened to him. Aides help pack boxes and shit gets packed that should not have. The VP falls under the same rules as the President as far as the Presidential Records Act goes. Also, the VP has the authority to declassify documents, so using Trump logic, maybe Biden declassified the documents by thinking it, just as Trump claimed he did. Maybe you should read the report, look at the actual laws and not listen to what Trump says for once in your life. so the cover sheets marked top secret, classified , the picture of the files laid out on the floor that every news agency showed us for a year was fake, im no lawyer but if they did in fact lay those cover sheets on top of the files they recovered could be tampering with evidence, this case is going in the shitter along with the good people of fulton counties case. the only shot you got is stormies case and nobody cares bout that. The cover letter was placed so the photo did not show the actual classified documents, when they show up in court (if cannon ever gets tired of slow walking the case) you might understand as it will all be explained, now had the moron just returned them when asked repeatedly he would not be facing a slam dunk case of obstruction
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Post by cadman on May 14, 2024 14:40:22 GMT -5
Same reason other previous Previous Presidents and VP did it. Reagan kept his notes, which contained classified information, for years and nothing happened to him. Aides help pack boxes and shit gets packed that should not have. The VP falls under the same rules as the President as far as the Presidential Records Act goes. Also, the VP has the authority to declassify documents, so using Trump logic, maybe Biden declassified the documents by thinking it, just as Trump claimed he did. Maybe you should read the report, look at the actual laws and not listen to what Trump says for once in your life. Wrong. A Vice President does not have the authority to declassify classified documents including those marked TopSecret. Unless the said VP becomes POTUS in same administration. Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by: (1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register; and (3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section. www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.htmlThe Vice President has full classification authority just like the President. Read the executive order dated December 2009. It has not changed since then. Classification authority means they can declassify a document.
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Post by conchydong on May 14, 2024 14:43:25 GMT -5
Yes, I guess the obviously partisan Republican independent investigator really dropped the ball. I know this may come as a shock to someone as uniformed as yourself but, some Republicans dont like Trump... . Exactly but many of them don’t like Biden even more. While they may publicly not approve of Trump I’d guess many will hold their nose again and vote for him considering the alternative.
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Post by ferris1248 on May 14, 2024 18:20:06 GMT -5
Wrong. A Vice President does not have the authority to declassify classified documents including those marked TopSecret. Unless the said VP becomes POTUS in same administration. Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by: (1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register; and (3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section. www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.htmlThe Vice President has full classification authority just like the President. Read the executive order dated December 2009. It has not changed since then. Classification authority means they can declassify a document. They won't believe it.
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Post by throttle on May 15, 2024 9:25:19 GMT -5
Wrong. A Vice President does not have the authority to declassify classified documents including those marked TopSecret. Unless the said VP becomes POTUS in same administration. Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by: (1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register; and (3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section. www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.htmlThe Vice President has full classification authority just like the President. Read the executive order dated December 2009. It has not changed since then. Classification authority means they can declassify a document. Re-read the executive order you cite; you will not find the Vice President mentioned under "authority for declassification". As for "in performance of executive duties", that would apply if the president died or was incapacitated and the VP assumed presidential authorities, not just whenever Biden felt like stealing documents from the SCIF to have his memoir written for him. BTW, do you have a copy of the Biden memoir? Or perhaps a statue in your living room? Because you are the most tireless apologist for that obscene, tyrannical, treasonous POS... www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html
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Post by cyclist on May 15, 2024 9:31:31 GMT -5
I don't understand the mental illness that would cause someone to think that trump is a good person, was a good president, is not a pathological liar, isn't losing his frigging mind, etc., yet denigrate Biden with so many lies and bullshit. You literally can't make this idiocy up, it's simply unbelievable.
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Post by olmucky on May 15, 2024 9:43:39 GMT -5
I don't understand the mental illness that would cause someone to think that trump is a good person, was a good president, is not a pathological liar, isn't losing his frigging mind, etc., yet denigrate Biden with so many lies and bullshit. You literally can't make this idiocy up, it's simply unbelievable. It’s like we are living in two different worlds.
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