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Post by johngalt on May 13, 2024 13:30:42 GMT -5
What evidence? I am still waiting to see this evidence. You would think they could impeach him if they had evidence. All they have is supposition and zero evidence. But let's look at Trump and the evidence there based on what secrets he has revealed for free. He posted on twitter a classified spy satellite photo of damage to Iran's spaceport. A photo the demonstrated top secret satellite capabilities our enemies were not supposed to be aware of because he thought it was a "cool" photo and he wanted to show off. He told the Russian foreign minister classified information in a 2017 Whitehouse meeting about ISIL that was provided by an ally. He gave enough information to the Russians that they could identity the ally and how the data was collected. Again, not information the intelligence people wanted public. In 2017 He told the Philippine President about two nuclear subs we had off the coast of North Korea that was top secret and even some Navy brass were not told due to the sensitivity of it. But he blurts it out in a meeting. In 2018,Trump posted video to Twitter of several members of Seal Team Five in their camouflage and night-vision goggles, revealing the team's location and un-blurred faces. Another thing we would prefer not everyone know. That is just the stuff off the top of my head I remember. That is the secrets he gave away for free because he wanted to look cool or show people he knew top secret information. The man can't keep his mouth shut. You don't think this guy would sell us out in a minute for a few million. Shit, he would do it for free if he thought it made him look "cool" or stroked his ego. Where did you learn of those breaches of security that you're claiming Trump is responsible of? Mother Jones? Morning Joe? The View? My favorite is the identity's of SEAL team members with their night vision goggles on. 😂 Yes Cad, your boy Biden is bought and paid for. Accept the fact he is not only a kid feeling lying pervert but also a foreign agent.
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Post by cadman on May 13, 2024 15:00:34 GMT -5
What evidence? I am still waiting to see this evidence. You would think they could impeach him if they had evidence. All they have is supposition and zero evidence. But let's look at Trump and the evidence there based on what secrets he has revealed for free. He posted on twitter a classified spy satellite photo of damage to Iran's spaceport. A photo the demonstrated top secret satellite capabilities our enemies were not supposed to be aware of because he thought it was a "cool" photo and he wanted to show off. He told the Russian foreign minister classified information in a 2017 Whitehouse meeting about ISIL that was provided by an ally. He gave enough information to the Russians that they could identity the ally and how the data was collected. Again, not information the intelligence people wanted public. In 2017 He told the Philippine President about two nuclear subs we had off the coast of North Korea that was top secret and even some Navy brass were not told due to the sensitivity of it. But he blurts it out in a meeting. In 2018,Trump posted video to Twitter of several members of Seal Team Five in their camouflage and night-vision goggles, revealing the team's location and un-blurred faces. Another thing we would prefer not everyone know. That is just the stuff off the top of my head I remember. That is the secrets he gave away for free because he wanted to look cool or show people he knew top secret information. The man can't keep his mouth shut. You don't think this guy would sell us out in a minute for a few million. Shit, he would do it for free if he thought it made him look "cool" or stroked his ego. Where did you learn of those breaches of security that you're claiming Trump is responsible of? Mother Jones? Morning Joe? The View? Fox news on the satellite photo www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tweet-iran-intel-briefing.ampReuters for the Russian story www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18B2MM/Newsweek for Seal team 6 www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-navy-seal-iraq-video-1272102Reuters about the subs www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18K15F/#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20president%20told%20Duterte,with%20Russian%20officials%20this%20month.
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Post by throttle on May 13, 2024 15:08:51 GMT -5
Perhaps I should have said "who's judgement are you taking as credible that these stories represent some egregious breach?". Trump haters say so, for sure. From the Reuters link: "The story that came out tonight as reported is false," H.R. McMaster, Trump's national security adviser, told reporters at the White House, adding that the leaders reviewed a range of common threats including to civil aviation. "At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed. The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known...I was in the room. It didn't happen," he said. There's always someone with a different take, and the leftist take is usually bullshit.
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Post by throttle on May 13, 2024 15:14:08 GMT -5
Maybe he should of just given the files back as Biden, Pence and others did when The National Archives, The DOJ and the FBI asked them to. Pretty simple really. So breaking the law and removing files that he had no right to have in the first place is ok as long as you give them back?.... I wonder if I went out and stole some of those documents that I had no right to have but offered to give them back if they would let me go scott free? Whatever "it" is, "it's" ok when they do it. Biden literally stole classified docs from a SCIF and shared them with his ghostwriter, trying to cash in...
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Post by biminitwisted on May 13, 2024 15:27:42 GMT -5
So breaking the law and removing files that he had no right to have in the first place is ok as long as you give them back?.... I wonder if I went out and stole some of those documents that I had no right to have but offered to give them back if they would let me go scott free? Whatever "it" is, "it's" ok when they do it. Biden literally stole classified docs from a SCIF and shared them with his ghostwriter, trying to cash in... Someone should really check that out. Know any partisan GOP Special Councils?
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Post by cadman on May 13, 2024 16:14:10 GMT -5
Perhaps I should have said "who's judgement are you taking as credible that these stories represent some egregious breach?". Trump haters say so, for sure. From the Reuters link: "The story that came out tonight as reported is false," H.R. McMaster, Trump's national security adviser, told reporters at the White House, adding that the leaders reviewed a range of common threats including to civil aviation. "At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed. The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known...I was in the room. It didn't happen," he said. There's always someone with a different take, and the leftist take is usually bullshit. And you always trust Trump and his cronies even though it has been proved he lies over and over.
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Post by ferris1248 on May 13, 2024 18:31:02 GMT -5
Maybe he should of just given the files back as Biden, Pence and others did when The National Archives, The DOJ and the FBI asked them to. Pretty simple really. So breaking the law and removing files that he had no right to have in the first place is ok as long as you give them back?.... I wonder if I went out and stole some of those documents that I had no right to have but offered to give them back if they would let me go scott free? Up until the point he refused to turn them over and then tried to hide their existence, he had committed no crime and had not been charged with anything. This conversation between you and I will go nowhere. You believe what you will and I will also Simply put you believe he is the fuckee. I believe he is the fucker. Neither of us are going to change our minds.
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Post by wynnv on May 13, 2024 18:39:42 GMT -5
So breaking the law and removing files that he had no right to have in the first place is ok as long as you give them back?.... I wonder if I went out and stole some of those documents that I had no right to have but offered to give them back if they would let me go scott free? Up until the point he refused to turn them over and then tried to hide their existence, he had committed no crime and had not been charged with anything. This conversation between you and I will go nowhere. You believe what you will and I will also Simply put you believe he is the fuckee. I believe he is the fucker. Neither of us are going to change our minds. Unfortunately we are stuck with two "fuckers". So we will vote for the "fucker" we feel that will fuck us the least.
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Post by pinman on May 13, 2024 18:59:44 GMT -5
It was and I do not believe the rules were applied fairly. Yes, I guess the obviously partisan Republican independent investigator really dropped the ball. I know this may come as a shock to someone as uniformed as yourself but, some Republicans dont like Trump...
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Post by biminitwisted on May 13, 2024 20:20:46 GMT -5
Yes, I guess the obviously partisan Republican independent investigator really dropped the ball. I know this may come as a shock to someone as uniformed as yourself but, some Republicans dont like Trump... Well, Special Prosecutor Hur, a registered Republican and former Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney who contributes to many GOP campaigns, isn't one of them.
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Post by tonyroma on May 13, 2024 21:31:59 GMT -5
Yes, I guess the obviously partisan Republican independent investigator really dropped the ball. I know this may come as a shock to someone as uniformed as yourself but, some Republicans dont like Trump... And some Democrats aren’t real thrilled with Biden.
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Post by pinman on May 14, 2024 8:03:57 GMT -5
Exactly to both of the above. Just because you have a D or a R next to your name or are even employed by a person doesnt mean you are going to support a President. Trump probably had more in his own party against him than any other President in history.
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Post by throttle on May 14, 2024 8:16:16 GMT -5
Whatever "it" is, "it's" ok when they do it. Biden literally stole classified docs from a SCIF and shared them with his ghostwriter, trying to cash in... Someone should really check that out. Know any partisan GOP Special Councils? From NPR: "Biden relied on his notebooks in particular while writing his memoir Promise Me, Dad, which was published in 2017 and reflects on the year his older son Beau died of cancer, two years earlier. In conversations with his ghostwriter for the book, he read from those notebooks — and on at least three occasions shared classified material while doing so." And: "In his interview for the special counsel investigation, Biden was "emphatic, declaring that his notebooks are 'my property,' and that ' every president before me has done the exact same thing,' that is, kept handwritten materials after his term in office, even if they contain classified material." Problem: Biden was not president when he took those classified documents. Maybe someone should explain the timeline to him. www.npr.org/2024/02/09/1230333392/biden-classified-documents-highlights
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Post by cadman on May 14, 2024 8:22:18 GMT -5
So breaking the law and removing files that he had no right to have in the first place is ok as long as you give them back?.... I wonder if I went out and stole some of those documents that I had no right to have but offered to give them back if they would let me go scott free? Whatever "it" is, "it's" ok when they do it. Biden literally stole classified docs from a SCIF and shared them with his ghostwriter, trying to cash in... This is the special counsel's report. Please point out where he said Biden stole anything. www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf
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Post by throttle on May 14, 2024 8:31:09 GMT -5
Is it your claim that a VP can legally take classified documents home with him? How would that legally happen?
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