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Post by swampdog on May 9, 2024 19:31:37 GMT -5
With open borders, the crime element is also immigrating illegally into the US. Hey it’s a chance to expand their illegal businesses.
Growth in a population is never a free ride. I may be wrong but it appears someone is providing a lot of help to the illegals. I know a daycare that is providing free care to a lot of folks from somewhere else. Supposedly a grant is making this possible.
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Post by olmucky on May 10, 2024 4:49:33 GMT -5
Whose idea was it to fundamentally transform America?
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Post by cadman on May 10, 2024 5:27:39 GMT -5
Whose idea was it to fundamentally transform America? LBJ? FDR? Andrew Jackson? Washington? Truman? No wait! Lincoln! Could also be Reagan and a few others as well. But those would be my top 6 for transforming America at the time.
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Post by olmucky on May 10, 2024 8:44:30 GMT -5
Whose idea was it to fundamentally transform America? LBJ? FDR? Andrew Jackson? Washington? Truman? No wait! Lincoln! Could also be Reagan and a few others as well. But those would be my top 6 for transforming America at the time. Not the guys from back in your youth
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Post by cyclist on May 10, 2024 9:16:28 GMT -5
With open borders, the crime element is also immigrating illegally into the US. Hey it’s a chance to expand their illegal businesses. Growth in a population is never a free ride. I may be wrong but it appears someone is providing a lot of help to the illegals. I know a daycare that is providing free care to a lot of folks from somewhere else. Supposedly a grant is making this possible. Hard to believe there are some Americans who actually see the asylum seekers as humans rather than animals...and I bet many aren't christers.
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Post by whitebacon on May 10, 2024 15:25:56 GMT -5
With open borders, the crime element is also immigrating illegally into the US. Hey it’s a chance to expand their illegal businesses. Growth in a population is never a free ride. I may be wrong but it appears someone is providing a lot of help to the illegals. I know a daycare that is providing free care to a lot of folks from somewhere else. Supposedly a grant is making this possible. Hard to believe there are some Americans who actually see the asylum seekers as humans rather than animals...and I bet many aren't christers. Seeking asylum from who? What oppressive goverment? I gotta give you credit for posting outrageous lies over and over again. Takes a lot of guts to demonstrate pure ignorance. Maybe you get a kick out of embarassing yourself. Or maybe you are just that stupid.
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Post by cyclist on May 10, 2024 16:08:49 GMT -5
Yeah well take care of yourself man.
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Post by walkerdog on May 10, 2024 17:40:54 GMT -5
I do love your passion. Have been bit a few times and don't really care as much about the woes of others - they are big people, know what they are doing, got it handled. My forefathers came here on both maternal and paternal sides, worked in factories, bought houses, raised families, and the level of income and education rose with each new generation. Sounds pretty successful. They cared about stuff like that and there is no reason any other family units can not do as well. Robber barons are the guys who pick up the illegals at Home Depot and use em for low day wages to make an extra $100 or $200 on a project while skipping out on insurance, worker's comp, etc. Big companies like Amazon, Walmart, etc. the big money places can't/won't touch em cause of the labor laws and folks eager to turn them in. And no - they don't do my yardwork, they do work hard but I'm not for hiring illegals. I have also heard directly about the wire transfers, western union etc. My BiL works at Publix to get away from his wife a bit. He does the transfers and it is usually "tan people" sending money out of country. Some paint it as saving the elderly and feeding their families but those folks are in socialist and communist countries - they don't really need the money. They are getting funds to ship the next level of family members to US. That's how it works. Something many Americans have forgotten about - honor to the family and such. White lady i work with said her gramma & pappi were share cropper/traveling fruit picker types. They would follow the ag seasons around in AL. Pretty interesting in that they were white and did this kind of manual labor in the 1900s, yet still raised families that prospered and advanced each generation. They do stuff for the next generation, to help them succeed. You have no clue, the majority would not be here if their country could support a labor force instead of gang warfare. Those countries are some of the poorest in the world with unemployment rate that are astronomical.
It’s what socialism and communism encourages, so it shouldn’t be any big surprise that it’s the result of it. What I find surprising is that anyone would want it in their own country, knowing where it leads in the end.
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Post by Captj on May 13, 2024 12:21:03 GMT -5
What we have here in The U.S. is a big, bad country that's all powerful but can't win a war. Yet we start plenty of them and complain when others are fighting for our ideals - democracy in particular. We should either be consistent in our support of freedom, or just let the chips fall where they may. Not likely to happen. Just think what could have been done for humanity if the combined defence budgets of The U.S., Europe, Asia, South America, China and Russia (not to mention their running buddies) was used to feed, cloth, provide healthcare, and housing for everyone. Sounds like a possible peace plan in an alternate reality.
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Post by whitebacon on May 13, 2024 15:40:33 GMT -5
What we have here in The U.S. is a big, bad country that's all powerful but can't win a war. Yet we start plenty of them and complain when others are fighting for our ideals - democracy in particular. We should either be consistent in our support of freedom, or just let the chips fall where they may. Not likely to happen. Just think what could have been done for humanity if the combined defence budgets of The U.S., Europe, Asia, South America, China and Russia (not to mention their running buddies) was used to feed, cloth, provide healthcare, and housing for everyone. Sounds like a possible peace plan in an alternate reality. Not surprising you don't know how the system works. The US picks and chooses which "allies" to defend, always defacto at arms length. Congress appropriates tens, if not hundreds of billions in "aid" which really goes to defense contractors, who lobby congress relentlessly. Everyone in Washington gets paid, as do all the defense contractors that manufacture guns, missles, etc. And for the record, by and large, the US doesn't start wars. Other than Grenada, and Panama, which lasted about a day each, feel free to tell us about all the wars the US has started, in say the last 50-60 years. Tell us about WWII while your at it.
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Post by Tarponator on May 13, 2024 15:41:49 GMT -5
Did you miss the Iraq wars (particularly the 2nd) and Afghanistan?
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Post by whitebacon on May 13, 2024 16:16:34 GMT -5
Did you miss the Iraq wars (particularly the 2nd) and Afghanistan? Not at all. I asked a question, and expect an answer. I will not argue with you at all, but I consider Iraq a one off to remove a dictator, and to protect and defend Kuwait, in my opinion. Afghanistan much the same. My point was commenting on "war", a legitimate "war" and not a glorified police action. Btw, all in the interest of defense contractors, again, in my opinion. You are welcome to scold me. Haven't had a good ass-chewing from you in a while. Tight lines......tarpon season
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Post by Captj on May 13, 2024 17:05:30 GMT -5
Did you miss the Iraq wars (particularly the 2nd) and Afghanistan? Not at all. I asked a question, and expect an answer. I will not argue with you at all, but I consider Iraq a one off to remove a dictator, and to protect and defend Kuwait, in my opinion. Afghanistan much the same. My point was commenting on "war", a legitimate "war" and not a glorified police action. Btw, all in the interest of defense contractors, again, in my opinion. You are welcome to scold me. Haven't had a good ass-chewing from you in a while. Indeed it is Tarpon time! On the wars, I'll defer to your definition of police actions and one offs. My definition of a war is when someone's shooting at me. Maybe conflicts would be a better term? The point is the amount of money the world has thrown at defense contractors over the years and how society could be better served if we stopped killing each other and started acting like adults.
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Post by whitebacon on May 13, 2024 17:25:47 GMT -5
Not at all. I asked a question, and expect an answer. I will not argue with you at all, but I consider Iraq a one off to remove a dictator, and to protect and defend Kuwait, in my opinion. Afghanistan much the same. My point was commenting on "war", a legitimate "war" and not a glorified police action. Btw, all in the interest of defense contractors, again, in my opinion. You are welcome to scold me. Haven't had a good ass-chewing from you in a while. Indeed it is Tarpon time! On the wars, I'll defer to your definition of police actions and one offs. My definition of a war is when someone's shooting at me. Maybe conflicts would be a better term? The point is the amount of money the world has thrown at defense contractors over the years and how society could be better served if we stopped killing each other and started acting like adults. On that single point in your last sentence, I agree 100%. And I hope you agree with me, that the money flow in Washington is entrenched, and not likely to change in the near future. It starts with rampant corruption in Washington. That will not change in any of our lifetimes. I hate war, I hate communists, jihadists, and any otherwise guilty countries that harbor and manufacture folks that should be shot and killed. Bad guys. None of us can change any of it. I spent most of my formative years in Boca Grande, FL. Got to know the Bushs' pretty well. Got to know Porter Goss as well. Over a lot of great food and occasional scotch, I learned how the world works. How it worked for the last 50 years. Personally, I'm grateful to be alive, although my life expentancy is like 12 months, or less, given an array of metrics.
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Post by conchydong on May 13, 2024 17:31:41 GMT -5
On that single point in your last sentence, I agree 100%. And I hope you agree with me, that the money flow in Washington is entrenched, and not likely to change in the near future. It starts with rampant corruption in Washington. That will not change in any of our lifetimes. I hate war, I hate communists, jihadists, and any otherwise guilty countries that harbor and manufacture folks that should be shot and killed. Bad guys. None of us can change any of it. I spent most of my formative years in Boca Grande, FL. Got to know the Bushs' pretty well. Got to know Porter Goss as well. Over a lot of great food and occasional scotch, I learned how the world works. How it worked for the last 50 years. Personally, I'm grateful to be alive, although my life expentancy is like 12 months, or less, given an array of metrics. David I ain’t rich just maybe middle to upper middle class but you have a place to stay if you want to come “home “ and get whatever treatment you may need. You are too young to meet your maker,
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