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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 4, 2024 12:52:58 GMT -5
Does anyone know exactly why they were done away with?
There is a huge campus outside of Chicago that was very busy years ago. It was in Tinley Park, Illinois. It is completely abandoned now.
It seems the mentality ill people are no longer a concern to the medical profession.
Shuttering the hospitals that helped the people in need of mental health treatment certainly has led to an increase in the number of homeless people wandering the streets as well as probably causing many of the violent deaths heard about almost constantly in the news.
I’m really interested in the “why” of this action.
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Post by gardawg on May 4, 2024 14:00:58 GMT -5
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Post by richm on May 4, 2024 14:06:09 GMT -5
Reagan did it - funding comes to mind.
Every pres has a Let's eff America concept that affects the people from then til forever.
Right off my nugget: Reagan did the mental health facilities, Obama did Obama care, Clinton ?? G Bush ?? GW Bush put gas on the open market, Went from $1 on up after that Biden let 10 million wetbacks in and we now have 85,000 IRS auditors getting bored near you, Trump ??
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Post by richm on May 4, 2024 14:07:08 GMT -5
Does anyone know exactly why they were done away with? There is a huge campus outside of Chicago that was very busy years ago. It was in Tinley Park, Illinois. It is completely abandoned now. It seems the mentality ill people are no longer a concern to the medical profession. Shuttering the hospitals that helped the people in need of mental health treatment certainly has led to an increase in the number of homeless people wandering the streets as well as probably causing many of the violent deaths heard about almost constantly in the news. I’m really interested in the “why” of this action. Half the pills you see advertised on TV are for folks with mental issues - bi-polar, stress, marijuana is for folks with stress & mental issues.
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Post by tonyroma on May 4, 2024 14:44:14 GMT -5
Civil rights issue. If I want to drink a gallon of mad dog everyday and scream at the sun why is that wrong? Society might deem it undesirable but if I’m not hurting anybody who are you to tell me how to live? Locking the undesirables away is a slippery slope, one day you may find yourself undesirable.
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Post by richm on May 4, 2024 16:11:56 GMT -5
Civil rights issue. If I want to drink a gallon of mad dog everyday and scream at the sun why is that wrong? Society might deem it undesirable but if I’m not hurting anybody who are you to tell me how to live? Locking the undesirables away is a slippery slope, one day you may find yourself undesirable. The down side of the homeless is that they steal stuff, liquor up and then just plain bother people for money for food and booze and drugs. They’d be easier to “ignore” if they weren’t going outta their way to get in your way feed you some bs in hopes of getting some money. Most of em are harmless enough until you run into one that’s not. Not sur where you are at. I get to encounter them most days. Git a buddy with a soft spot for feeding them.
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Post by conchydong on May 4, 2024 16:51:41 GMT -5
I think if I were destitute and homeless I would find a place to live off the land. It may be a mostly protein diet but I would rather do that than be a beggar on the streets.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 4, 2024 17:02:47 GMT -5
The beggers on the street corners are not homeless for the most part. Many are scammers. One used to sell flowers at the stoplights. I bought flowers from him for 20 years. I asked him why no more flowers. He told me he was making $300 a day just begging. 😳
One time I was returning to the job site from Home Depot. A scruffy looking young lady was begging at a light. I had a zip lock bag busting full of change. Probably $30 in it. I tried to give it to her and she refused to take it. She said it was too heavy to carry all day. And she said she only accepts folding money.
The next time I saw her I offered her nothing but did notice that she was wearing an expensive pair of gym shoes. I deducted that she dressed disheveled just to beg.
Finally there was a begger all the time on the off ramp of I55 and Route 50. Sometimes I would give him a dollar. Then one day I saw him walking down the street from his begging spot and he got into a nice Cadillac and drove off.
Scammers mostly all. I laugh at them when they come up to my window now.
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Post by cadman on May 4, 2024 17:29:31 GMT -5
It started in the 1950s with the invention of psychiatric drugs to help treat some mental illnesses. The public attitude toward mental health changed during this period with many magazines writing exposes on the institutions and the failings and abuse. It turned people against mental institutions.
Then Social Security Disability was expanded by Johnson and SSI by Nixon, and many of the mentally ill could qualify for some payment. This allowed more to live outside institutions. States were also looking to cut costs and all these changes allowed them to close more and more facilities.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 4, 2024 21:50:34 GMT -5
It started in the 1950s with the invention of psychiatric drugs to help treat some mental illnesses. The public attitude toward mental health changed during this period with many magazines writing exposes on the institutions and the failings and abuse. It turned people against mental institutions. Then Social Security Disability was expanded by Johnson and SSI by Nixon, and many of the mentally ill could qualify for some payment. This allowed more to live outside institutions. States were also looking to cut costs and all these changes allowed them to close more and more facilities. The results are proving to be disastrous.
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Post by olmucky on May 6, 2024 4:35:13 GMT -5
It started in the 1950s with the invention of psychiatric drugs to help treat some mental illnesses. The public attitude toward mental health changed during this period with many magazines writing exposes on the institutions and the failings and abuse. It turned people against mental institutions. Then Social Security Disability was expanded by Johnson and SSI by Nixon, and many of the mentally ill could qualify for some payment. This allowed more to live outside institutions. States were also looking to cut costs and all these changes allowed them to close more and more facilities. Pretty much this. Newer treatments etc the goal was to help them function in society and not rot away in a hospital.
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Post by cadman on May 6, 2024 5:53:17 GMT -5
It started in the 1950s with the invention of psychiatric drugs to help treat some mental illnesses. The public attitude toward mental health changed during this period with many magazines writing exposes on the institutions and the failings and abuse. It turned people against mental institutions. Then Social Security Disability was expanded by Johnson and SSI by Nixon, and many of the mentally ill could qualify for some payment. This allowed more to live outside institutions. States were also looking to cut costs and all these changes allowed them to close more and more facilities. The results are proving to be disastrous. Not for 90% of the people who used to end up in such places. The problem is the very small segment which can't be helped.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 6, 2024 6:30:51 GMT -5
Then we have to create accommodations for the small portion that can’t be helped immediately.
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