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Post by Captj on Apr 18, 2024 16:34:42 GMT -5
$6.00 gas would accomplish a few things. Off the top it would wreck economies, force automakers to produce more efficient power trains, and shorten my fishing trips. We seem to be heading to a more socialized form of government. Some would say communist. I certainly don't advocate for either, but I'm not in charge. Nor would I want to be. Already some of the Repugnants are leaving government because they couldn't get anything done.
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Post by Captj on Apr 18, 2024 16:34:57 GMT -5
$6.00 gas would accomplish a few things. Off the top it would wreck economies, force automakers to produce more efficient power trains, and shorten my fishing trips. We seem to be heading to a more socialized form of government. Some would say communist. I certainly don't advocate for either, but I'm not in charge. Nor would I want to be. Already some of the Repugnants are leaving government because they couldn't get anything done.
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Post by Tarponator on Apr 18, 2024 18:04:58 GMT -5
Are EVs dead yet?
What's taking so long?
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 18, 2024 19:03:55 GMT -5
This Solar-Powered EV Is Promised for under $43,000 A lot less expensive than the Lightyear 0, this mass-market EV will be manufactured in the ‘hundreds of thousands,’ the company pledges. Thanks to solar panels, the Lightyear 2 will need to plug in for charging about a third less often than a conventional battery-electric vehicle and will have half the emissions. Given the right circumstances, the onboard energy collectors can double the range in the battery, providing more than 500 miles between charges from the grid. www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a42419262/lightyear-solar-powered-ev-promised-for-euro-40000/Bullshit story.... |
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Post by luapnor on Apr 18, 2024 19:06:59 GMT -5
This Solar-Powered EV Is Promised for under $43,000 A lot less expensive than the Lightyear 0, this mass-market EV will be manufactured in the ‘hundreds of thousands,’ the company pledges. Thanks to solar panels, the Lightyear 2 will need to plug in for charging about a third less often than a conventional battery-electric vehicle and will have half the emissions. Given the right circumstances, the onboard energy collectors can double the range in the battery, providing more than 500 miles between charges from the grid. www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a42419262/lightyear-solar-powered-ev-promised-for-euro-40000/Bullshit story.... Holy shit... I missed that gem of bs. That will work right after they invent perpetual motion. |
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Post by conchydong on Apr 18, 2024 19:13:57 GMT -5
This is an industry in it's infancy. There will be giant leaps forward in both manufacturing and battery innovations. At present it's a great alternative to burning fossil fuel. Whether you want to believe it or not, the worlds chemistry is sliding down the road to perdition. Just look at the real changes in our atmosphere and our natural resources that are water related. The next big wars will be fought over water. Just filled up my Ram 2500 hd for $105.00 and burned a quarter tank trailering my boat from Key Largo to Miami. Not to mention the pollutants I released into the atmosphere. China is coming hard with EV's. They're in it for the long game. Better step up to the plate and compete or all the missiles and weapons won't mean shit if we can't breath. And I am definitely not a tree hugger. I like to kill shit. Problem is deterioration of our environment is very apparent where I fish (South Florida). I don't post fishing stories from back in the day as nobody here would understand them. Hence mother nature is telling us something's wrong. Can't wait for all the negative comments. You filled up your Ram because you can't tow your boat with a EV. At what point in time do you think you can buy a EV that can tow your boat at a reasonable cost. I'm not saying they aren't the future, although I have doubts, but they aren't the present and they should not be forced on us by the Government. |
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 18, 2024 19:26:46 GMT -5
Holy shit... I missed that gem of bs. That will work right after they invent perpetual motion. Problem is the majority of cheerleaders are oblivious to what it actually costs and the amount of work it takes to start a production car company. Especially when the car isn't appealing to the masses Rivian is going to fail also. |
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 18, 2024 19:58:42 GMT -5
This is an industry in it's infancy. There will be giant leaps forward in both manufacturing and battery innovations. At present it's a great alternative to burning fossil fuel. Whether you want to believe it or not, the worlds chemistry is sliding down the road to perdition. Just look at the real changes in our atmosphere and our natural resources that are water related. The next big wars will be fought over water. Just filled up my Ram 2500 hd for $105.00 and burned a quarter tank trailering my boat from Key Largo to Miami. Not to mention the pollutants I released into the atmosphere. China is coming hard with EV's. They're in it for the long game. Better step up to the plate and compete or all the missiles and weapons won't mean shit if we can't breath. And I am definitely not a tree hugger. I like to kill shit. Problem is deterioration of our environment is very apparent where I fish (South Florida). I don't post fishing stories from back in the day as nobody here would understand them. Hence mother nature is telling us something's wrong. Can't wait for all the negative comments. So, you're a great fisherman, and you like to kill shit. Your words, not mine. I put my name on my commemts. You wont. Gavinas are Gavinas. Come down here and explain to me how I'm fucking up the environmemt. My nephew is in Big Pine. Stop and see him. Preach your bullshit gospel to him. He will change you from a rooster to a hen with one shot.. Hiding behind a keyboard. The worst form of pond scum. |
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Post by gandy on Apr 19, 2024 7:34:46 GMT -5
$6.00 gas would accomplish a few things. Off the top it would wreck economies, force automakers to produce more efficient power trains, and shorten my fishing trips. We seem to be heading to a more socialized form of government. Some would say communist. I certainly don't advocate for either, but I'm not in charge. Nor would I want to be. Already some of the Repugnants are leaving government because they couldn't get anything done. Apr 18, 2024 7:41:52 GMT -4 gandy said: If only there was a way to force the people to live the way a few people know is best. |
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Post by cadman on Apr 19, 2024 7:36:54 GMT -5
This is an industry in it's infancy. There will be giant leaps forward in both manufacturing and battery innovations. At present it's a great alternative to burning fossil fuel. Whether you want to believe it or not, the worlds chemistry is sliding down the road to perdition. Just look at the real changes in our atmosphere and our natural resources that are water related. The next big wars will be fought over water. Just filled up my Ram 2500 hd for $105.00 and burned a quarter tank trailering my boat from Key Largo to Miami. Not to mention the pollutants I released into the atmosphere. China is coming hard with EV's. They're in it for the long game. Better step up to the plate and compete or all the missiles and weapons won't mean shit if we can't breath. And I am definitely not a tree hugger. I like to kill shit. Problem is deterioration of our environment is very apparent where I fish (South Florida). I don't post fishing stories from back in the day as nobody here would understand them. Hence mother nature is telling us something's wrong. Can't wait for all the negative comments. So, you're a great fisherman, and you like to kill shit. Your words, not mine. I put my name on my commemts. You wont. Gavinas are Gavinas. Come down here and explain to me how I'm fucking up the environmemt. My nephew is in Big Pine. Stop and see him. Preach your bullshit gospel to him. He will change you from a rooster to a hen with one shot.. Hiding behind a keyboard. The worst form of pond scum. He did not mention you in his post. Why the fuck do you take some posts so personal? He is speaking in generalities and he is correct. Quit thinking everything is about you. |
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Post by meateater on Apr 19, 2024 9:50:47 GMT -5
He did not mention you in his post. Why the fuck do you take some posts so personal? He is speaking in generalities and he is correct. Quit thinking everything is about you. he is not correct, i also have seen hunting and fishing go downhill from 35 years ago. lake okeechoobie, most of the indian river ,the sea grass is gone manatees are starving to death, mahi fishing is a joke today compared to years ago on and on and on. gas had nothing to do with this and all the electric cars in the world wont fix it. as far as mr bacon i have no idea . |
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Post by cadman on Apr 19, 2024 14:45:03 GMT -5
Now that's a proper response to his post.
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Post by Captj on Apr 19, 2024 19:29:27 GMT -5
This is an industry in it's infancy. There will be giant leaps forward in both manufacturing and battery innovations. At present it's a great alternative to burning fossil fuel. Whether you want to believe it or not, the worlds chemistry is sliding down the road to perdition. Just look at the real changes in our atmosphere and our natural resources that are water related. The next big wars will be fought over water. Just filled up my Ram 2500 hd for $105.00 and burned a quarter tank trailering my boat from Key Largo to Miami. Not to mention the pollutants I released into the atmosphere. China is coming hard with EV's. They're in it for the long game. Better step up to the plate and compete or all the missiles and weapons won't mean shit if we can't breath. And I am definitely not a tree hugger. I like to kill shit. Problem is deterioration of our environment is very apparent where I fish (South Florida). I don't post fishing stories from back in the day as nobody here would understand them. Hence mother nature is telling us something's wrong. Can't wait for all the negative comments. You filled up your Ram because you can't tow your boat with a EV. At what point in time do you think you can buy a EV that can tow your boat at a reasonable cost. I'm not saying they aren't the future, although I have doubts, but they aren't the present and they should not be forced on us by the Government. I agree. Everyone should have their own choice. My Tesla doesn't have the tow capacity for my big boat. I have the Dodge which is rusted to shit from putting it in the water at Haulover at high tide. I'm currently considering trading up to a Hybrid truck for the additional towing capacity. Anybody interested in a '06 2500HD Crew Cab with 80m miles. Mechanically great, but body work is another story. |
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Post by luapnor on Apr 19, 2024 21:35:33 GMT -5
Back that hybrid into the salty water....please take pictures to commemorate it.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 20, 2024 0:04:52 GMT -5
Back that hybrid into the salty water....please take pictures to commemorate it. Or run your hero Apartheid Clyde's piece of shit truck through a car was. |
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Post by Captj on Apr 21, 2024 13:49:44 GMT -5
Back that hybrid into the salty water....please take pictures to commemorate it. Drive any ICE vehicle into the water and kiss that computer goodby. Hurricane cars = total losses. Think that your Russian friends would like my rusted out Dodge though. |
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Post by meateater on Apr 22, 2024 10:14:13 GMT -5
Back that hybrid into the salty water....please take pictures to commemorate it. Or run your hero Apartheid Clyde's piece of shit truck through a car was. wash not was. wheres tarpon for fucks sake.  |
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 22, 2024 12:15:59 GMT -5
Or run your hero Apartheid Clyde's piece of shit truck through a car was. wash not was. wheres tarpon for fucks sake. It's fuck's FFS  |
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Post by luapnor on Apr 23, 2024 6:35:15 GMT -5
Back that hybrid into the salty water....please take pictures to commemorate it. Drive any ICE vehicle into the water and kiss that computer goodby. Hurricane cars = total losses. Think that your Russian friends would like my rusted out Dodge though. Go ahead... back the hybrid into the salt water. Do please take pictures... and learn how to quote. |
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Post by Tarponator on Apr 23, 2024 14:29:11 GMT -5
www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/road-salt-and-rust-on-my-texas-r1s-how.16127/-------------- Original Message ---------------From: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: 10/19/2021, 1:33 PMTo: customerservice@rivian.comSubject: Salt Water useThank you for your previous reply!Any way you could escalate this to engineering? It's kind of important and I don't want to find out the hard way that my new $75K vehicle was damaged by improper use.Beach driving isn't really my concern as I will not be driving near the ocean, it's backing down the boat launch ramp into 1-2ft of salt water to launch or retrieve our boat that's got me wondering?Thank you!!Rob------------------------ Reply -------------------Hi Rob,It's good to hear from you again! I totally understand that you want to protect your Rivian from harsher elements by making sure that the Rivian is able to withstand them. The maximum water fording height of the R1T and the R1S is 42.7 inches, so the Rivian should be more than capable of launching a boat in salt water. Furthermore, living in Illinois and having to deal with loads of salt from the roads in the winter, I'm very conscientious of the effects that salt can have on any vehicle. To maintain the paint and coating on your vehicle, we detailed how you can go about washing the exterior to avoid any excessive dirt or salt buildup, which can be found in the R1T Owner's Guide located here<https://rivian.com/support/article/r1t-owners-guide> on page 162.I do hope that helps shed some light on your concerns. In the meantime, please feel free to reach back out with additional questions - we're happy to help!Your fellow adventurer,EricMon-Fri: 7:00am-8:00pm CSTSat-Sun: 7:00am-3:30pm CST
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Post by cyclist on Apr 23, 2024 14:49:30 GMT -5
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Post by luapnor on Apr 23, 2024 17:31:51 GMT -5
Charged with coal and oil... and produced 1000 times the particulate polution than a regular ice car.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 24, 2024 10:29:53 GMT -5
Charged with coal and oil... and produced 1000 times the particulate polution than a regular ice car. yeah right, liar. |
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Post by luapnor on Apr 24, 2024 11:46:11 GMT -5
Charged with coal and oil... and produced 1000 times the particulate polution than a regular ice car. yeah right, liar. Truth denier. I know it hurts but someone has to tell you. China has never used less coal in its history than it does today and consumption continues to climb. And already posted this... but when it disrupts your myth, you ignore it. Honestly I dont expect you to actually think for yourself but maybe....
For the same task, an EV weighs far more than its equivalent ICE vehicle... which translates directly into increased tire wear which is the biggest contributor to particular pollution from vehicles. EVs produce 1850 TIMES the particular matter that an ICE produces. So much for the Zero Emission lie. |
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 24, 2024 19:44:47 GMT -5
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Post by johngalt on Apr 24, 2024 20:26:41 GMT -5
I’m still waiting to hear from the owners of EV’s on this site?🤔
Seems the biggest supporters and defenders of EV’s don’t even own one?🤔
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Post by Captj on Apr 25, 2024 5:59:01 GMT -5
I’m still waiting to hear from the owners of EV’s on this site?🤔 Seems the biggest supporters and defenders of EV’s don’t even own one?🤔 I've posted on this site several times prior. Love our Model Y LR AWD and in two years of driving both local and over the road have had no problems keeping a charge in it. I wouldn't put either of my cars in the water, especially salt water. I have my Dodge Ram 2500HD for trailering my boats. Yesterday my truck's tailpipe actually fell off from rust. Replacing the exhaust system with SS up to the turbo. Frame is good, body not so much. Salt water and vehicles don't mix. I don't care what make or model they are. FYI, the service at Tesla is the most convenient and on time that I've ever had. And reasonable as a tire replacement was same price as the local tire stores. And quicker. |
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Post by johngalt on Apr 25, 2024 10:12:26 GMT -5
I’m still waiting to hear from the owners of EV’s on this site?🤔 Seems the biggest supporters and defenders of EV’s don’t even own one?🤔 I've posted on this site several times prior. Love our Model Y LR AWD and in two years of driving both local and over the road have had no problems keeping a charge in it. I wouldn't put either of my cars in the water, especially salt water. I have my Dodge Ram 2500HD for trailering my boats. Yesterday my truck's tailpipe actually fell off from rust. Replacing the exhaust system with SS up to the turbo. Frame is good, body not so much. Salt water and vehicles don't mix. I don't care what make or model they are. FYI, the service at Tesla is the most convenient and on time that I've ever had. And reasonable as a tire replacement was same price as the local tire stores. And quicker. At least you’re honest. 👍 I have no idea where the closest Tesla dealer is around here, I think up in Birmingham Al. I did see a Rivian pickup truck but it had North Carolina tags. |
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Post by bottom feeder on Apr 30, 2024 16:17:24 GMT -5
www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/road-salt-and-rust-on-my-texas-r1s-how.16127/-------------- Original Message ---------------From: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: 10/19/2021, 1:33 PMTo: customerservice@rivian.comSubject: Salt Water useThank you for your previous reply!Any way you could escalate this to engineering? It's kind of important and I don't want to find out the hard way that my new $75K vehicle was damaged by improper use.Beach driving isn't really my concern as I will not be driving near the ocean, it's backing down the boat launch ramp into 1-2ft of salt water to launch or retrieve our boat that's got me wondering?Thank you!!Rob------------------------ Reply -------------------Hi Rob,It's good to hear from you again! I totally understand that you want to protect your Rivian from harsher elements by making sure that the Rivian is able to withstand them. The maximum water fording height of the R1T and the R1S is 42.7 inches, so the Rivian should be more than capable of launching a boat in salt water. Furthermore, living in Illinois and having to deal with loads of salt from the roads in the winter, I'm very conscientious of the effects that salt can have on any vehicle. To maintain the paint and coating on your vehicle, we detailed how you can go about washing the exterior to avoid any excessive dirt or salt buildup, which can be found in the R1T Owner's Guide located here<https://rivian.com/support/article/r1t-owners-guide> on page 162.I do hope that helps shed some light on your concerns. In the meantime, please feel free to reach back out with additional questions - we're happy to help!Your fellow adventurer,EricMon-Fri: 7:00am-8:00pm CSTSat-Sun: 7:00am-3:30pm CST This is from a chat room of a company that has lost 95% of it's valuation in the last two years. Sounds credible? |
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Post by swampdog on Apr 30, 2024 18:24:22 GMT -5
Kinda like Senator Kennedy asking the energy office, “If EVs are so great why do we have to pay folks to drive them?” He was speaking on incentives. Simple question, but a good question.
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