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Post by OhMy on May 28, 2024 13:40:44 GMT -5
The true idiots are the ones that think they can change the climate of our planet. Love, The Dinosaurs
We have changed the planet in many ways, the true idiots type statements like above. The stoopid folks are the deniers with facts blasting them in the face.
Google moth color pre industrial post industrial and tell me man didn't change anything. That was the start of the CO2 issues, and was known by forward thinking scientists in the 1890s.
In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first predicted that changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect. In 1938, Guy Callendar connected carbon dioxide increases in Earth's atmosphere to global warming.
Keep dreaming... I will have tissues waiting for you at your next road blockade. Man will not change the planet's climate. Here is a newsflash for you, neither will any other creature on earth. The US and its media always have to live in a crisis state. Here is a good drinking game for you... Turn on the news and every time they mention the words crisis (climate, housing, global, etc.) take a shot. You will be legless in a few hours. When humankind becomes extinct, it will be from disease or self inflicted by weapons. The only thing humans will do with the warming climate is adapt to it. Edit: I visited CNN.com at 246 PM today and did a chrome search for the word "crisis". Two articles. They have to tell you everything is a crisis. "As America’s retirement crisis grows, so does the dream of retiring abroad" "Opinion What ‘Furiosa’ gets right about the climate crisis" Who knew.. now we have a retirement crisis. The weak minded fall for it. That describes you Cyclist.
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Post by cyclist on May 28, 2024 14:09:33 GMT -5
We have changed the planet in many ways, the true idiots type statements like above. The stoopid folks are the deniers with facts blasting them in the face.
Google moth color pre industrial post industrial and tell me man didn't change anything. That was the start of the CO2 issues, and was known by forward thinking scientists in the 1890s.
In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first predicted that changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect. In 1938, Guy Callendar connected carbon dioxide increases in Earth's atmosphere to global warming.
Keep dreaming... I will have tissues waiting for you at your next road blockade. Man will not change the planet's climate. Here is a newsflash for you, neither will any other creature on earth. The US and its media always have to live in a crisis state. Here is a good drinking game for you... Turn on the news and every time they mention the words crisis (climate, housing, global, etc.) take a shot. You will be legless in a few hours. When humankind becomes extinct, it will be from disease or self inflicted by weapons. The only thing humans will do with the warming climate is adapt to it. Edit: I visited CNN.com at 246 PM today and did a chrome search for the word "crisis". Two articles. They have to tell you everything is a crisis. "As America’s retirement crisis grows, so does the dream of retiring abroad" "Opinion What ‘Furiosa’ gets right about the climate crisis" Who knew.. now we have a retirement crisis. The weak minded fall for it. That describes you Cyclist. dumb as a post...or just plain ole greed and self serving entitlement. Ask not what your country can do.....
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Post by mapper on May 28, 2024 15:54:57 GMT -5
We never hooked up the lightening to the Mirage. In this case it is not an issue to pull from Gville house to beach house and ramp at the St. Aug lighthouse. The total range for the Lightening is about 300 and the towing the boat from Gville to Matanzas round trip is 190 miles more or less. Plus the boat lives in Matanzas 90% of the time. The problem would be the occasional trip south to launch to Abacos. We are think he could hire a portable charger to come and tend the car while in the Bahamas. There is also a charger at Port St Lucie but would have to charge before the crossing or spend time after. Lot a times we go down the night before and sleep in the truck and we could charge then. He has not bought one yet. He used to run the F250 on 100% biodiesel before trump axed the blender credit and put First Cast Biofuels out of business and the biodiesel reactor in Lakeland. They have a Tesla Y and regularly take it to Fanklin NC with a 30 minute charging layover and a 15 minute stop as well.
OK, so all the blustering about range and yeah it will do it and 85 miles towing a heavy wind load behind a electric truck was all bullshit then, right? I have read tow reports on lightnings and long distance trips, and a light small trailer makes the efficiency drop by about half. Feel free to read on Ford truck forums in lightning section, a mod there posts his trips and travels, but does not sugarcoat and bullshit about it. He has my respect for that.. But your post about a yeah it will tow it the 85 miles based on calculations and electron voodoo and turn the rant into a fuel credit issue is disengunious.. So as usual another thread which did have a interesting topic to me has gone to shit, and the thread is a donkey shit vs elephant shit thread. I always hope interesting topics here don't go there, but they have a extremely high probability of it over 85%. I just need to learn to ignore trying to think there would be anything meaningful learned by reading them..
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Post by conchydong on May 28, 2024 17:18:26 GMT -5
A light small trailer is different than a 5+ ton boat.
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Post by johngalt on May 28, 2024 17:25:42 GMT -5
I can’t figure out why that’s not the only option in the table.
It's based on your home KW charge and if you have solar. Short answer is 64% less than gas.
The Tesla Charging Cost of the Model Y
The newest Tesla model, the Model Y, has three versions, with each model using a 75kW battery. The average cost to fully charge a Tesla Model Y is around $11.47 or $4.70 for every 100 miles.
This amount is nearly 64% less than the per-mile cost to drive gas-powered vehicles, which is typically around 13 cents per mile. To realize even greater cost savings while recharging a Tesla, preferably at home, some Tesla owners use solar panels to leverage more sustainable energy.
So there is no road use tax for EV’s? They get to use the highway system for free?
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Post by cyclist on May 28, 2024 17:27:54 GMT -5
We never hooked up the lightening to the Mirage. In this case it is not an issue to pull from Gville house to beach house and ramp at the St. Aug lighthouse. The total range for the Lightening is about 300 and the towing the boat from Gville to Matanzas round trip is 190 miles more or less. Plus the boat lives in Matanzas 90% of the time. The problem would be the occasional trip south to launch to Abacos. We are think he could hire a portable charger to come and tend the car while in the Bahamas. There is also a charger at Port St Lucie but would have to charge before the crossing or spend time after. Lot a times we go down the night before and sleep in the truck and we could charge then. He has not bought one yet. He used to run the F250 on 100% biodiesel before trump axed the blender credit and put First Cast Biofuels out of business and the biodiesel reactor in Lakeland. They have a Tesla Y and regularly take it to Fanklin NC with a 30 minute charging layover and a 15 minute stop as well.
OK, so all the blustering about range and yeah it will do it and 85 miles towing a heavy wind load behind a electric truck was all bullshit then, right? I have read tow reports on lightnings and long distance trips, and a light small trailer makes the efficiency drop by about half. Feel free to read on Ford truck forums in lightning section, a mod there posts his trips and travels, but does not sugarcoat and bullshit about it. He has my respect for that.. But your post about a yeah it will tow it the 85 miles based on calculations and electron voodoo and turn the rant into a fuel credit issue is disengunious.. So as usual another thread which did have a interesting topic to me has gone to shit, and the thread is a donkey shit vs elephant shit thread. I always hope interesting topics here don't go there, but they have a extremely high probability of it over 85%. I just need to learn to ignore trying to think there would be anything meaningful learned by reading them.. Don't get your panties in a wad...all I said is he was contemplating a lightening and waying the pros and cons. Ill bet an 85 mile trip with a 300 range vehicle and a 10,000 pound boat is immently doable. I think you misinterpreted the situation.
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Post by cyclist on May 28, 2024 17:28:31 GMT -5
It's based on your home KW charge and if you have solar. Short answer is 64% less than gas.
The Tesla Charging Cost of the Model Y
The newest Tesla model, the Model Y, has three versions, with each model using a 75kW battery. The average cost to fully charge a Tesla Model Y is around $11.47 or $4.70 for every 100 miles.
This amount is nearly 64% less than the per-mile cost to drive gas-powered vehicles, which is typically around 13 cents per mile. To realize even greater cost savings while recharging a Tesla, preferably at home, some Tesla owners use solar panels to leverage more sustainable energy.
So there is no road use tax for EV’s? They get to use the highway system for free? Doing the right thing has perks...until it doesn't.
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Post by cracker4112 on May 28, 2024 18:46:48 GMT -5
Don't get your panties in a wad...all I said is he was contemplating a lightening and waying the pros and cons. I’ll bet an 85 mile trip with a 300 range vehicle and a 10,000 pound boat is immently doable. I think you misinterpreted the situation. [/quote]
I don’t. I think someday but not yet. A friend of mine traded his lightning in after less than 5k miles because he could not tow his tower boat from Tampa to Pine Island on a charge. Now I believe there is an extended range you can pay for, but not at the time. Tampa to Pine Is is about a 2 hour drive, just not practical yet.
I’m waiting for a self driving one that I can get in the back seat and have it drive me to the woods while I have a cocktail.
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Post by mapper on May 28, 2024 19:55:11 GMT -5
But your post about a yeah it will tow it the 85 miles are based on calculations and electron voodoo not actual use.. Don't get your panties in a wad...all I said is he was contemplating a lightening and waying the pros and cons. Ill bet an 85 mile trip with a 300 range vehicle and a 10,000 pound boat is immently doable. I think you misinterpreted the situation. Taken from a ford forum, lightning section. This is the heaviest I've seen on reported towing, most reports are small pop-up campers, lightweight no or minimal wind drag.. No I don't think I misinterpreted your belief that a 85 mile trip towing a 10k boat with a ford lightning with a 300 mile range was imminently doable. It may be..I'd like to see reports.
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Post by garycoleco on May 28, 2024 20:03:28 GMT -5
OK, so all the blustering about range and yeah it will do it and 85 miles towing a heavy wind load behind a electric truck was all bullshit then, right? I have read tow reports on lightnings and long distance trips, and a light small trailer makes the efficiency drop by about half. Feel free to read on Ford truck forums in lightning section, a mod there posts his trips and travels, but does not sugarcoat and bullshit about it. He has my respect for that.. But your post about a yeah it will tow it the 85 miles based on calculations and electron voodoo and turn the rant into a fuel credit issue is disengunious.. So as usual another thread which did have a interesting topic to me has gone to shit, and the thread is a donkey shit vs elephant shit thread. I always hope interesting topics here don't go there, but they have a extremely high probability of it over 85%. I just need to learn to ignore trying to think there would be anything meaningful learned by reading them.. Don't get your panties in a wad...all I said is he was contemplating a lightening and waying the pros and cons. Ill bet an 85 mile trip with a 300 range vehicle and a 10,000 pound boat is immently doable. I think you misinterpreted the situation. Nah
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Post by tonyroma on May 28, 2024 20:16:44 GMT -5
Don't get your panties in a wad...all I said is he was contemplating a lightening and waying the pros and cons. I’ll bet an 85 mile trip with a 300 range vehicle and a 10,000 pound boat is immently doable. I think you misinterpreted the situation. Nah Ya, No thanks
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Post by cadman on May 29, 2024 7:05:48 GMT -5
That's what i want, the self driving technology perfected. Just sit back, relax and let the vehicle do the driving.
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Post by cyclist on May 29, 2024 8:00:53 GMT -5
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Post by mapper on May 29, 2024 8:30:57 GMT -5
While more weight than TFL truck towing test, less frontal area than the toy hauler trailers. So that variable *may* need to be considered. I'd guess that a 33'sailboat on a trailer weighing 10k lbs has a different wind drag associated with it. So it's not exactly a apples to apples comparison, nor do I think the effect is linear. But thanks for posting 10k tow test I haven't seen it before.
You might need to adjust your prediction for 85 mile tow from imminently doable to marginally doable.
I'm not knocking the ev concept, i like it, but for me and the 35'camper I tow it does not fit my needs at this point in energy density between battery and gas/diesel.
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Post by Crkr 23 on May 29, 2024 8:36:33 GMT -5
I think that I would keep my Triple A paid up.
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