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Post by cadman on May 10, 2024 5:21:05 GMT -5
EV,EV,EV ………… ?.?.?.? Ok. How long does the battery last in a Tesla before it needs to be replaced? And -the big question - How much does it cost to replace the battery? Batteries are not “forever”. They lose power with each recharge? Correct? To judge how efficient EV’s actually are people need to know what the true maintenance costs are. This seems to be slightly hidden by manufacturers. Batteries are guaranteed to last 8 years or 100,000 miles. Which is longer than most people keep a car. Average life of a car is 14 years and most people only own a car 8 years. So most people will not deal with a battery replacement. Battery replacement is between $6000 and $20,000 with Tesla being in the $20,000 range. But there is aftermarket solutions that are cheaper and there are extended warranty options as well. I'd buy the extended warranty if I bought a Tesla. Most studies done are for 3 year and 5 year periods, where the EV is cheaper to maintain. I would guess if a study was done over the life of the vehicle at 14 years, the costs would be about the same for most vehicles. The easy solution for the battery issue would be to buy an extended warranty that covers it. As the technology advances, I am sure battery life will extend and replacement cost will decrease. EVs are here to stay. Hydrogen may come along in a few years to supplement EVs or eventually replace them. But the old ICE vehicle is slowly going to be replaced no matter how much anyone wants to bitch and moan about it. Like any new product, as problems develop, solutions will be found.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 10, 2024 6:08:06 GMT -5
The key being “slowly replaced”
The “greenies” need to realize that it will take time.
Finally, while there still is a need and use for it we need to get the massive wealth of America out from under the ground.
“Drill baby drill” - in an organized and coordinated manner with as much environmental protection as economically feasible.
BUT “Drill baby drill ! 👍
We must cash in on our wealth for the economic well being of our country.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 10, 2024 11:43:17 GMT -5
See what those $ donations to the DNC and Biden get America. Drilled, baby, he's drilling. More than ever before, in fact. Crude oil output hits a record high in 2023U.S. oil production, meanwhile, has also hit record highs under Biden, continuing to outpace rivals Saudi Arabia and Russia. The U.S. also produces more natural gas than ever, pulling record volumes from wells that spread from Texas to Pennsylvania. www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/OIL/lgpdngrgkpo/
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Post by walkerdog on May 11, 2024 14:16:02 GMT -5
RVing can be a lot of fun, I hear. Great way to get out and see the country. Not sure that’s what is being discussed here though. Maybe start your own thread about it?🤪
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Post by misterjr on May 11, 2024 15:02:50 GMT -5
You couldn't be that dense.....
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Post by conchydong on May 11, 2024 15:11:39 GMT -5
You couldn't be that dense..... He just corrected you because Tarp won’t since you’re on the same team.
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Post by misterjr on May 11, 2024 15:29:12 GMT -5
You couldn't be that dense..... He just corrected you because Tarp won’t since you’re on the same team. Maybe you could point out where I was wrong?
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Post by conchydong on May 11, 2024 15:36:55 GMT -5
Re-read what you posted. He was only poking fun at you. I am sure it was a typo but some here make a big deal out of them.
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Post by misterjr on May 11, 2024 15:51:20 GMT -5
Re-read what you posted. He was only poking fun at you. I am sure it was a typo but some here make a big deal out of them. I posted a link to Road and Track magazine.
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Post by tonyroma on May 11, 2024 16:08:01 GMT -5
You said RV instead of EV, Walkers catch was pretty funny. Mind those fat thumbs or Tarp will turn on you.😉
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Post by conchydong on May 11, 2024 16:15:52 GMT -5
You said RV instead of EV, Walkers catch was pretty funny. Mind those fat thumbs or Tarp will turn on you.😉 Don’t forget “tational” also. Double whammy. Mister doesn’t seem the type to have fat fingers.😉
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Post by Tarponator on May 11, 2024 20:10:31 GMT -5
I'm more curious as to your reaction to an EV towing an RV.
You know, since they're dead and all.
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Post by walkerdog on May 11, 2024 20:47:50 GMT -5
All that talk about free speech sure made you clowns turn on him Wonder why he never complains about Twitter being blocked in China? Gee, I wonder…… could it be because he already knows they don’t have a constitutional right to free speech in China? 🙄 And this question comes from the person blaming others of being purposely obtuse! YCMTSU🤣🤣🤣
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Post by mapper on May 11, 2024 21:00:42 GMT -5
EV,EV,EV ………… ?.?.?.? Ok. How long does the battery last in a Tesla before it needs to be replaced? And -the big question - How much does it cost to replace the battery? Batteries are not “forever”. They lose power with each recharge? Correct? To judge how efficient EV’s actually are people need to know what the true maintenance costs are. This seems to be slightly hidden by manufacturers. Batteries are guaranteed to last 8 years or 100,000 miles. Which is longer than most people keep a car. Average life of a car is 14 years and most people only own a car 8 years. So most people will not deal with a battery replacement. Battery replacement is between $6000 and $20,000 with Tesla being in the $20,000 range. But there is aftermarket solutions that are cheaper and there are extended warranty options as well. I'd buy the extended warranty if I bought a Tesla. Most studies done are for 3 year and 5 year periods, where the EV is cheaper to maintain. I would guess if a study was done over the life of the vehicle at 14 years, the costs would be about the same for most vehicles. The easy solution for the battery issue would be to buy an extended warranty that covers it. As the technology advances, I am sure battery life will extend and replacement cost will decrease. EVs are here to stay. Hydrogen may come along in a few years to supplement EVs or eventually replace them. But the old ICE vehicle is slowly going to be replaced no matter how much anyone wants to bitch and moan about it. Like any new product, as problems develop, solutions will be found. Now does that " most people" apply to the jeep you are restoring, or the classic cars some on here have, or the older models that are still being used by some, or is it a blanket timeframe for folks that are most always in vehicle debt?
For a runabout it's fine..for hauling my boat and camper and whatever I need to haul or tow, it is not there for me now., nor is the charging infrastructure without unhooking a trailer that is towed. I'm still waiting to get that extra 3-4 mpg, 50 horsepower, and 100 lb/ft torque increase by not having to tow the payment book behind it..
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Post by walkerdog on May 11, 2024 21:03:41 GMT -5
You couldn't be that dense..... You’re the one that said it. At your age, I wouldn’t think spelling was new to you. Maybe I’m wrong about that. Pretty funny seeing you calling someone else dense, after what you wrote though!🤣 BTW, have you figured out that whole quoting thing yet?🤪
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