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Post by cadman on Apr 5, 2024 13:19:11 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense? Depends on what you’re hunting but, yes, sometimes that would be useful to have. If you’re being threatened in your own home, your clip can’t hold enough bullets, no matter if it’s 15 or 50, IMHO. If it's a home invasion and it takes more than 15 you are likely already dead. Very likely you've hit a few innocent neighbors with the rifle rounds too.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 5, 2024 14:10:05 GMT -5
View AttachmentI wish I would have got more of these shirts at the time. 1911, colt peacemaker, browning auto 5, and lever rifle. Back has patent artwork and date of patent 48. Those are the ones I remember. Last 20 years were all glock 40 cals
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 5, 2024 16:56:44 GMT -5
Thanks, Cad. That’s what everyone always says.
My neighbors aren’t as close as yours must be. And, once they’re dead, I may decide to keep shooting them, just for good measure. 🤪
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Post by Captj on Apr 5, 2024 17:19:47 GMT -5
To be clear, I wasn't advocating against owning a gun. Regular range practice is something I do advise for those who can't hit shit.
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Post by conchydong on Apr 5, 2024 17:36:15 GMT -5
To be clear, I wasn't advocating against owning a gun. Regular range practice is something I do advise for those who can't hit shit. While range practice is good, shooting under pressure in a life or death situation is a entirely different matter. Hope none of us ever has to experience it.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 5, 2024 18:45:17 GMT -5
To be clear, I wasn't advocating against owning a gun. Regular range practice is something I do advise for those who can't hit shit. While range practice is good, shooting under pressure in a life or death situation is an entirely different matter. Hope none of us ever has to experience it. This is a more than true statement if I have ever heard one. It’s hard to stay focused when some knuckleheads are throwing lead in your direction.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 5, 2024 18:46:01 GMT -5
To be clear, I wasn't advocating against owning a gun. Regular range practice is something I do advise for those who can't hit shit. While range practice is good, shooting under pressure in a life or death situation is a entirely different matter. Hope none of us ever has to experience it. You know me better than anyone. They didn't hire me to miss. Some people are natural born killers.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 5, 2024 18:49:57 GMT -5
To be clear, I wasn't advocating against owning a gun. Regular range practice is something I do advise for those who can't hit shit. You keep your little sissy girl panties on. We like cross dressing homoseexuals. Makes for good crab bait.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 5, 2024 19:04:27 GMT -5
To be clear, I wasn't advocating against owning a gun. Regular range practice is something I do advise for those who can't hit shit. I'm not the guy you want to eff around with.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 6, 2024 9:19:00 GMT -5
Cyclist, I know your educated, drink liberal cool aid, and believe wholeheartedly the liberal news stories that you like to quote so often. And are eager to push those views on others. But I also know that your mind is made up and no amount of logic, unbiased facts, or conversation will change it. Therefore it it would be a waste of time to tell you your view are based on extrapolation and some conjecture as well as the bias of the reporting agency. Back out the deaths by suicide, and remove the 18 and 19 year Olds counted as children. As far as the loophole you address there is not one. Read the gun control act of 1986 if you doubt it. Once a right is taken or legislated away it does not return. Feel free to move to a state that espouses those views you like. I will do the same. ( oh, I already did) You are arguing against facts without facts.
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Post by luapnor on Apr 6, 2024 9:28:05 GMT -5
www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-is-clear-gun-control-saves-lives1/The Science Is Clear: Gun Control Saves Lives By enacting simple laws that make guns safer and harder to get, we can prevent killings like the ones in Uvalde and Buffalo The science is abundantly clear: More guns do not stop crime. Guns kill more children each year than auto accidents. More children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active military members. Guns are a public health crisis, just like COVID, and in this, we are failing our children, over and over again. A study comparing gun deaths the U.S. to other high-income countries in Europe and Asia tells us that our homicide rate in teens and young adults is 49 times higher. Our firearm suicide rate is eight times higher. The U.S. has more guns than any of the countries in the comparison. As we previously reported, in 2015, assaults with a firearm were 6.8 times more common in states that had the most guns, compared to the least. More than a dozen studies have revealed that if you had a gun at home, you were twice as likely to be killed as someone who didn’t. Research from the Harvard School of Public Health tells us that states with higher gun ownership levels have higher rates of homicide. Data even tells us that where gun shops or gun dealers open for business, killings go up. These are but a few of the studies that show the exact opposite of what progun politicians are saying. The science must not be ignored. Science points to laws that would work to reduce shootings, to lower death. Among the simplest would be better permitting laws with fewer loopholes. When Missouri repealed its permit law, gun-related killings increased by 25 percent. Another would be to ban people who are convicted of violent crime from buying a gun. In California, before the state passed such a law, people convicted of crimes were almost 30 percent more likely to be arrested again for a gun or violent crime than those who, after the law, couldn’t buy a gun. All misrepresented data for the purpose of fooling the useless tools.... congratulations.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 6, 2024 9:54:31 GMT -5
www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-is-clear-gun-control-saves-lives1/The Science Is Clear: Gun Control Saves Lives By enacting simple laws that make guns safer and harder to get, we can prevent killings like the ones in Uvalde and Buffalo The science is abundantly clear: More guns do not stop crime. Guns kill more children each year than auto accidents. More children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active military members. Guns are a public health crisis, just like COVID, and in this, we are failing our children, over and over again. A study comparing gun deaths the U.S. to other high-income countries in Europe and Asia tells us that our homicide rate in teens and young adults is 49 times higher. Our firearm suicide rate is eight times higher. The U.S. has more guns than any of the countries in the comparison. As we previously reported, in 2015, assaults with a firearm were 6.8 times more common in states that had the most guns, compared to the least. More than a dozen studies have revealed that if you had a gun at home, you were twice as likely to be killed as someone who didn’t. Research from the Harvard School of Public Health tells us that states with higher gun ownership levels have higher rates of homicide. Data even tells us that where gun shops or gun dealers open for business, killings go up. These are but a few of the studies that show the exact opposite of what progun politicians are saying. The science must not be ignored. Science points to laws that would work to reduce shootings, to lower death. Among the simplest would be better permitting laws with fewer loopholes. When Missouri repealed its permit law, gun-related killings increased by 25 percent. Another would be to ban people who are convicted of violent crime from buying a gun. In California, before the state passed such a law, people convicted of crimes were almost 30 percent more likely to be arrested again for a gun or violent crime than those who, after the law, couldn’t buy a gun. All misrepresented data for the purpose of fooling the useless tools.... congratulations. Let's see your data....I don't believe your feeling...they don't count.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 6, 2024 10:25:41 GMT -5
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 6, 2024 10:58:43 GMT -5
I can cite facts, but your opinion won't change, nor will you look at the issue without a pre determined outcome. Your opinion won't change either. That's the problem. Both of you are so entrenched in your outlooks, the issue will never be solved
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 6, 2024 12:27:30 GMT -5
Most don’t want to dig any deeper than the surface on the issue. That won’t get anyone to a solution.
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