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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 6:47:34 GMT -5
It is disheartening that persons are still equating violence with the actual firearms themselves. Most persons realize that the criminals and perpetrators of violence will be able to obtain weapons regardless of any laws on the books.
The only people that will be effected by such laws will be honest law abiding citizens.
The proposed laws in Colorado will have national implications as they are going to go against what has already been established as constitutional rights for Americans.
Common sense must prevail. We must go after the root cause of the violence. Mental illness and poor upbringing of children.
That’s my 2 cents.
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Post by cadman on Apr 1, 2024 7:18:10 GMT -5
Which proposed law are you referring to? The one banning guns in certain "sensitive" areas? I don't have an issue with that one. You can leave it locked in your car at those venues. they may need to refine the areas to get past a constitutional challenge. But do you want a guy legally carrying while he's getting drunk at a bar? I can understand government buildings also. Not sure you can restrict at public parks though. The courts will decide.
While I agree that criminals will still carry, hopefully when they get caught, it is more time they will spend in prison and not on the street.
Colorado has a few being proposed, need to know which one upsets you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 7:27:07 GMT -5
Read the list. The sensitive areas law is the least egregious.
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Post by cadman on Apr 1, 2024 7:29:24 GMT -5
Read the list. The sensitive areas law is the least egregious. What list? Could you post the source of the list. My google search turns up a few new proposed laws, most that are already dead in the legislature. I tried to find a list and could not. I ask because a lot of times I see these reports put out by certain groups just looking to raise funds and the "proposed" laws are already dead issues. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 7:31:28 GMT -5
On way to job now. I’ll try later. Sorry
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 1, 2024 9:14:16 GMT -5
On way to job now. I’ll try later. Sorry Quit texting and driving. |
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Post by meateater on Apr 1, 2024 9:19:02 GMT -5
the voters of colorado voted for this guy knowing his HUSBAND was a full blown animal rights psycho creepy weirdo so when the wolves and mountain lions finish eating all the elk and deer hopefully they will start eating the voters before they move to other states and screw them up. they are getting what they deserve.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 9:34:26 GMT -5
Our country is being turned upside down.
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Post by Captj on Apr 1, 2024 10:14:55 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 10:23:32 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense? Around my area you definitely could use a 15 round magazine for self defense. Otherwise the “bad guys” would easily “out gun” you. Damn the local crazies all have converted Glocks and massive clips. |
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 11:24:44 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 1, 2024 12:13:39 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. Definitely don't need a gun to sell insurance. Stupid customers don't need to be sold at gunpoint. A slick salesman is good enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 12:33:48 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. You don’t need a gun - UNTIL - you need a gun. Sir, I have been robbed on multiple occasions and shot three times during robbery. If I did not have a firearm I would not be typing this today. I respect your decision to not own a firearm but I have to disagree with you on the matter. Most respectfully. Ken |
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 13:07:31 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. As long as you understand that police have no duty to protect. Case law on police no duty to protectI'm smart enough to know where to go and how to act without the police looking over my shoulder. |
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 13:08:06 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. You don’t need a gun - UNTIL - you need a gun. Sir, I have been robbed on multiple occasions and shot three times during robbery. If I did not have a firearm I would not be typing this today. I respect your decision to not own a firearm but I have to disagree with you on the matter. Most respectfully. Ken You should move. |
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 1, 2024 13:11:54 GMT -5
Making Road Rage Great Again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 13:12:01 GMT -5
To where would you suggest? Where in the world are there not crazies running around looking to harm people? Just where?
Honest law abiding citizens should have weapons if they desire to have them. Criminals should be incarcerated for extended periods of time if they are caught with firearms. It’s that simple.
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 13:13:28 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. Definitely don't need a gun to sell insurance. Stupid customers don't need to be sold at gunpoint. A slick salesman is good enough. At least I'm not some fictionalized character made up by some poster having fun. |
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 1, 2024 13:18:34 GMT -5
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Post by luapnor on Apr 1, 2024 14:02:17 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense? Do you need a house with more than one bedroom? Do you need a car that can drive faster than the speed limit? Do you need a TV larger than 24 inches? Do you need more than 1 car?
Your question is no different than the ones above. It is none of your business if I want a 30 round mag or not.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 1, 2024 14:05:29 GMT -5
I'm smart enough to know where to go and how to act without the police looking over my shoulder. Not always can you be smart enough to know where to go.. Parkland FL home Invasion.Should I post a list of all the road rage shootings each day, or gun accidents? |
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Post by meateater on Apr 1, 2024 14:19:19 GMT -5
plenty of crime in coral springs and parkland. lotta walled and gated communities there today which is weird for 2 democrat cities. thought walls are bad.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 1, 2024 14:23:49 GMT -5
Do you suggest banning cars so that it does not happen? Then we would look next at bicycle rage incidents. I forgot the dipshits that can't keep it holstered in the lottery line at Publix. |
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 14:24:56 GMT -5
I sleep great every night. I don't live my life in fear.
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 4, 2024 17:09:12 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense? Depends on what you’re hunting but, yes, sometimes that would be useful to have. If you’re being threatened in your own home, your clip can’t hold enough bullets, no matter if it’s 15 or 50, IMHO. |
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Post by meateater on Apr 5, 2024 8:53:37 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense? i do, ever seen me shoot, not so good. |
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Post by cyclist on Apr 5, 2024 9:14:18 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. You don’t need a gun - UNTIL - you need a gun. Sir, I have been robbed on multiple occasions and shot three times during robbery. If I did not have a firearm I would not be typing this today. I respect your decision to not own a firearm but I have to disagree with you on the matter. Most respectfully. Ken Some people have a knack in making bad decisions and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2024 9:48:11 GMT -5
You don’t need a gun - UNTIL - you need a gun. Sir, I have been robbed on multiple occasions and shot three times during robbery. If I did not have a firearm I would not be typing this today. I respect your decision to not own a firearm but I have to disagree with you on the matter. Most respectfully. Ken Some people have a knack in making bad decisions and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah. It was my decision to get robbed in an upper middle class neighborhood where there is basically no crime and get shot. I called the minority race gang bangers that did it to come out to the crime free neighborhood to shoot and rob me. You are an F ing idiot. |
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Post by richm on Apr 5, 2024 10:46:00 GMT -5
If a person doesn't want to own a gun, that's fine. That's where they choose to end their rights to bear arms.
The non-gun types in CO are afraid of threaded barrels and pistol grips on rifle or shotguns among other things.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 5, 2024 11:09:07 GMT -5
www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-is-clear-gun-control-saves-lives1/The Science Is Clear: Gun Control Saves Lives By enacting simple laws that make guns safer and harder to get, we can prevent killings like the ones in Uvalde and Buffalo The science is abundantly clear: More guns do not stop crime. Guns kill more children each year than auto accidents. More children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active military members. Guns are a public health crisis, just like COVID, and in this, we are failing our children, over and over again. A study comparing gun deaths the U.S. to other high-income countries in Europe and Asia tells us that our homicide rate in teens and young adults is 49 times higher. Our firearm suicide rate is eight times higher. The U.S. has more guns than any of the countries in the comparison. As we previously reported, in 2015, assaults with a firearm were 6.8 times more common in states that had the most guns, compared to the least. More than a dozen studies have revealed that if you had a gun at home, you were twice as likely to be killed as someone who didn’t. Research from the Harvard School of Public Health tells us that states with higher gun ownership levels have higher rates of homicide. Data even tells us that where gun shops or gun dealers open for business, killings go up. These are but a few of the studies that show the exact opposite of what progun politicians are saying. The science must not be ignored. Science points to laws that would work to reduce shootings, to lower death. Among the simplest would be better permitting laws with fewer loopholes. When Missouri repealed its permit law, gun-related killings increased by 25 percent. Another would be to ban people who are convicted of violent crime from buying a gun. In California, before the state passed such a law, people convicted of crimes were almost 30 percent more likely to be arrested again for a gun or violent crime than those who, after the law, couldn’t buy a gun.
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