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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 14, 2024 22:12:45 GMT -5
You mean the rights that were correctly determined to have been unconstitutionally enacted? Not without first amending the constitution. Short of that happening, it will constitutionally remain a matter that is the right of each state to decide. That's not how laws work. New laws get upheld overturning previous decisions. Like I said, Brown v. Board of Education reversed the Plessy v. Ferguson ruling, and there are about 160 other SCOTUS examples. Just because you want it done the hard way, doesn't mean that's the way it's going to go. Starting with this election.
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Apr 15, 2024 8:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 15, 2024 8:33:37 GMT -5
Yes. It will be interesting to see what happens if the Pubs take complete control.
I think, despite my personal belief, that the individual states will determine the best way to regulate the issue.
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Post by meateater on Apr 15, 2024 9:08:24 GMT -5
republicans are there worst enemy, i dont remember the teams but remember when the team had the super bowl locked up, take a knee run out the clock instead they throw a pass and it gets intercepted, think patriots intercepted the pass and went on to win. this happened right before mid terms when the court overturned roe and repubs big wave turned into a mouse with kidney stones taking a piss. now texas and arizona pulling this stupid shit before the election when its been proving over and over to be a loser politically. trump should have run as a independent cause republicans are gonna win biden a 2nd term.
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 15, 2024 9:43:36 GMT -5
You might be right............but then again. Who knows?
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Post by luapnor on Apr 15, 2024 10:19:34 GMT -5
I cant imagine voting to keep slavery and making it easier to own slaves.... just to win an election.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 17, 2024 16:04:23 GMT -5
Arizona republicans cheering the 1864 abortion ban. They can't walk away from owning this.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 17, 2024 16:37:53 GMT -5
They're not done yet.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Apr 17, 2024 17:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by Captj on Apr 17, 2024 18:06:35 GMT -5
I cant imagine voting to keep slavery and making it easier to own slaves.... just to win an election. Ruskie misinformation - again.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by johngalt on Apr 17, 2024 19:33:02 GMT -5
Well , well oh how things work!!!😂😂😂 As I said before and will repeat,,, TAKE A CIVICS LESSON. We are a Constitutional Republic not a stupid democracy. The people of Arizona will decide this law not some crybabies sitting in their parents house in Florida. And the people of Arizona will decide it democratically, like a democracy would. Maybe you need a civics lesson too. You might want to read the 17th amendment as well. It changed a fundamental part or our constitution by allowing the citizens to elect Senators instead of being appointed by the state legislature. It really isn't as simple as saying "we aren't a democracy" we are in many ways a democracy, especially at the state and local level and even democratically electing our representatives. We are a democratically elected Constitutional Republic. We democratically elected our representatives to make laws following our Constitution. It would be impossible for a nation as large and complex as the U.S. to be a pure democracy. Please point out the word “Democracy” in any of our founding documents. I will help you out, it ain’t there. The founders knew to a man that all democracy’s always turn into tyrannies. Our problem is that we are ignoring the Constitution and the foundations of our country. And people like you are fine with it as long as your beliefs are respected. I suggest you take the civics lesson because you are very ignorant.
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Abortion
Apr 17, 2024 19:37:04 GMT -5
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Post by johngalt on Apr 17, 2024 19:37:04 GMT -5
You simply don't get it. Nearly 2/3rds of the country disagrees with you (and even more among women). Yet you disbelieve: "I also find it hard to believe that so many women are in favor of ending the lives of children. " If that's not out of touch, then perhaps you might explain it with something other than your minority-position pejoratives. So why not put it to a national vote? All of you claim that the United States is a democracy, here is your chance. 😉
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Apr 17, 2024 19:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by johngalt on Apr 17, 2024 19:39:34 GMT -5
I prefer constitutionally supported laws over RvW types of laws. I’m less emotionally driven than most though. YMMV. Me too. I just realize one doesn't need to amend the constitution to get there. So why do you care what happens in Arizona?
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Post by OhMy on Apr 17, 2024 19:41:20 GMT -5
You simply don't get it. Nearly 2/3rds of the country disagrees with you (and even more among women). Yet you disbelieve: "I also find it hard to believe that so many women are in favor of ending the lives of children. " If that's not out of touch, then perhaps you might explain it with something other than your minority-position pejoratives. So why not put it to a national vote? All of you claim that the United States is a democracy, here is your chance. 😉 I am pretty sure abortion would pass with 70% approval (with a 24 week ban) nationwide .
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 17, 2024 22:28:24 GMT -5
Me too. I just realize one doesn't need to amend the constitution to get there. So why do you care what happens in Arizona? Because I don't feel entitled to control women and their choices in regards to their reproductive rights. Silly, I know.
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 18, 2024 6:52:50 GMT -5
So then don’t.
What does something AZ is deciding on have to do with how you choose to control women or not control women?
It doesn’t.
The issue isn’t about controlling women anyway. Thats just your choice on how to frame it. Similar to me saying that, if you’re pro abortion, you just want to kill inconvenient unborn children.
Neither claim accurately portray’s the other’s views on the issue.
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