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Post by wayvis on Sept 9, 2023 9:19:17 GMT -5
Just started seeing scrapes this past week here in Northeast Florida. Anybody else seeing scrapes in zone C. It seems up here the last few years the rut has started a few weeks earlier then it use too. Anybody else noticing the rut starting earlier?
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Post by 4ward on Sept 9, 2023 9:41:12 GMT -5
I have noticed it running longer for sure. More late season fawns on the ground this year than normal. Too many does in my opinion. We will be trying our best to work on that.
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Post by pinman on Sept 9, 2023 13:15:06 GMT -5
Just started seeing scrapes this past week here in Northeast Florida. Anybody else seeing scrapes in zone C. It seems up here the last few years the rut has started a few weeks earlier then it use too. Anybody else noticing the rut starting earlier? In what county if you dont mind telling?
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Post by wayvis on Sept 10, 2023 7:50:27 GMT -5
Just started seeing scrapes this past week here in Northeast Florida. Anybody else seeing scrapes in zone C. It seems up here the last few years the rut has started a few weeks earlier then it use too. Anybody else noticing the rut starting earlier? In what county if you dont mind telling? Nassau county close to the Georgia line.
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Post by altuck on Sept 10, 2023 12:36:15 GMT -5
Have not seen any scrapes yet at my camp in C5 Jefferson County. Usually, mid-November. Don't expect any at my other camp in ANF until mid-December. I agree. it seems like dates are creeping earlier.
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Post by pinman on Sept 10, 2023 14:56:23 GMT -5
Have not seen any scrapes yet at my camp in C5 Jefferson County. Usually, mid-November. Don't expect any at my other camp in ANF until mid-December. I agree. it seems like dates are creeping earlier. Turkeys are firing up earlier too....
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Post by TRTerror on Sept 10, 2023 18:33:21 GMT -5
Taylor County.. Rut is gonna be hot in about a week. It lasts till about Nov. 15th. Lull in black powder but running hard again about Nov 1st.
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Post by 6thgen on Sept 12, 2023 8:57:42 GMT -5
I have seen 3 sets of fawns on my cameras this year. Currently the first are losing their spots. There are mid sized fawns and a few little bitty fawns. This is Columbia County and Alachua County. Our main rut has always been Halloween. Then around Thanksgiving. They must have had another around Christmas! Agree there are too many does.
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Post by cracker4112 on Sept 12, 2023 10:40:43 GMT -5
I saw a spotted fawn this weekend in Glades County. The rut where we are is usually sometime in August…
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Post by drgibby on Sept 19, 2023 6:21:48 GMT -5
Just started seeing scrapes this past week here in Northeast Florida. Anybody else seeing scrapes in zone C. It seems up here the last few years the rut has started a few weeks earlier then it use too. Anybody else noticing the rut starting earlier? I noticed scrapes before Labor Day this year. I am East of Hilliard on 108.
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Post by james14 on Sept 20, 2023 16:57:45 GMT -5
I've seen it earlier each year since APRs went into effect, which is to be expected. Breeding seems to be occurring at the same time, but buck activity has definitely been going earlier. It used to take until the 3rd weekend of bow before I saw any "rut" behavior. Now, I see them cruising before the season begins.
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Post by swampdog on Sept 20, 2023 20:23:14 GMT -5
The last couple of seasons I’ve noticed a longer rut duration. I believe the buck doe ratio is off with too many does resulting in does cycling back into estrus keeping bucks on the prowl. I need to check with our biologist on this speculation.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 21, 2023 15:13:49 GMT -5
There are certainly some "second ruts" in multiple counties. I'm not sure how wide spread nor the exact science behind it.
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Post by james14 on Oct 4, 2023 19:12:05 GMT -5
Having multiple rut phases is inescapable on public land because they'd either have to kill a pile of does or restrict buck harvest severely. In all reality, it's a problem in most of FL since the fawn recruitment rate is so low. An even buck to doe ratio would collapse our population.
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Post by cracker4112 on Oct 4, 2023 19:58:54 GMT -5
Both of the places I hunt on private land have multiple ruts, and there are lots of does. The first rut is always the most pronounced and then they will chase to a lesser degree 4-5 weeks later. I think it would take a lot of work to kill enough does to get the ratio 2/1 or so. One of the landowners has no desire to control the does, only to get age on the bucks. They like to be able to see deer any time they want, and mission accomplished.
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Post by 6thgen on Oct 5, 2023 14:26:08 GMT -5
I have hunted the past 2 weekends and have only been seeing young does and fawns so far. As soon as the bachelor groups of bucks went hard horn I am now only getting pictures of them at night. That goes for the old does as well. I hear this Sunday morning is going to be in the 50's, so I hope to have some movement. The pre-rut should get going soon. Good luck in the woods gentlemen.
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Post by james14 on Oct 5, 2023 20:43:32 GMT -5
Alachua has been off the chain on my cell cams the past 2-3 days. It's like a switch flipped.
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Post by JS84 on Oct 6, 2023 6:33:32 GMT -5
That's good to hear. Do you often see a 2nd rut around Highsprings/Alachua?
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Post by 4ward on Oct 6, 2023 20:00:29 GMT -5
I got bad wind for pretty much everything…. Except the new stand, that I set for situations just like this😉. My ass will be numb by 9 but I’ll tough it out, NOW is the time. Good luck fellas.
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Post by 4ward on Oct 6, 2023 20:08:54 GMT -5
Alachua has been off the chain on my cell cams the past 2-3 days. It's like a switch flipped. Report tonight was 6 bucks chasing. Just east of you guys. Buddy got a good one down.
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Post by TRTerror on Oct 7, 2023 17:19:12 GMT -5
My scrapes have went kinda cold but rubs are within 50 feet of my shop and on my entry road all nice and fresh. I'll be 30 ft. up a big Pine tree tomorrow at daybreak...Monday as well. Zone C , Taylor County
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Post by james14 on Oct 12, 2023 21:06:36 GMT -5
That's good to hear. Do you often see a 2nd rut around Highsprings/Alachua? It's weird for sure. Right now is typically zero hour. Bucks have been cruising. Scrapes were hit hard the first week of October and then not at all. Does are definitely being bred around now. I've seen the tending behavior on cam and newborn fawns backdated to this second full week of October. BUT not much chasing and not a lot of widespread roaming for the bucks. There is a flurry of chasing after this initial breeding, and then it falls off until around Veteran's Day when I really see more traditional rut behavior. I think the bucks are more desperate here since it's the second cycle. The problem is that it's more sporadic. BUT I see more chasing than in the October cycle, and I see what I never see in October, and that is bucks actually hanging with does. I never jump bucks bedded with does in October, but had it happen many times around Veteran's Day. Moving in towards Thanksgiving I'll start to have bucks show up that I haven't seen all season. You'll see them or get a pic one time and that will be it. He's probably two miles away the next day. I try to focus more on the October cycle because I can more easily pattern the bucks. The problem is I have a bow in my hands. Twice this season I've seen the buck I'm after out of range. Tuesday evening he was at 60 yards following the trail of a doe that passed by an hour earlier. By the time ML comes his pattern will likely be different. If I lived closer and had more time to spend in the woods, I'd hunt more during the November cycle with a gun in hand, cooler temps, fewer mosquitoes, and hope for one of those wild chasing days.
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Post by JS84 on Oct 13, 2023 13:32:50 GMT -5
Lines up with what I've seen and what others have shared with me as well.
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Post by james14 on Oct 16, 2023 10:57:37 GMT -5
Some more musings after thinking about it this weekend while in my stand:
If you head just a few miles south into Marion County, there is no October rut that I've seen. Those bucks aren't really getting started until late in October, with breeding happening around the same as the second cycle in Alachua. This makes me think there might be two populations of does in Alachua, and possibly other counties riding that line of the Zone B late rut. One population cycles first in early October. The other group cycles first in early November. This is just a hypothesis.
There also seems to be something about that Thanksgiving week across the state (can't speak for Zone A, though) that gets them going. I've hunted areas with late ruts (Jan/Feb) and seen bucks chasing during that week. This is in Zone B and D on several different WMAs. I've also seen it in Zone C on areas that had already had their peak cycle. Throw in a cold front, and it really amplifies it. I can't say that breeding is happening, but it's almost like they know that all their northern brethren are getting some and they feel left out.
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Post by drgibby on Oct 17, 2023 6:39:36 GMT -5
I killed an 8-pt yesterday morning in Hernando Co. C-4 that was chasing does. His tarsals were really oiled up and he was very smelly. Seems a bit early for that area. But hey, it is Florida, and the deer tend to do what they want!
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Post by olmucky on Oct 17, 2023 8:49:29 GMT -5
We’re c5 close to D2 Deer are still bachelored up Depending on the year the fun stuff doesn’t happen until well into nov. Some years late dec it seems to change periodically
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Post by olmucky on Oct 17, 2023 8:57:53 GMT -5
That's good to hear. Do you often see a 2nd rut around Highsprings/Alachua? It's weird for sure. Right now is typically zero hour. Bucks have been cruising. Scrapes were hit hard the first week of October and then not at all. Does are definitely being bred around now. I've seen the tending behavior on cam and newborn fawns backdated to this second full week of October. BUT not much chasing and not a lot of widespread roaming for the bucks. There is a flurry of chasing after this initial breeding, and then it falls off until around Veteran's Day when I really see more traditional rut behavior. I think the bucks are more desperate here since it's the second cycle. The problem is that it's more sporadic. BUT I see more chasing than in the October cycle, and I see what I never see in October, and that is bucks actually hanging with does. I never jump bucks bedded with does in October, but had it happen many times around Veteran's Day. Moving in towards Thanksgiving I'll start to have bucks show up that I haven't seen all season. You'll see them or get a pic one time and that will be it. He's probably two miles away the next day. I try to focus more on the October cycle because I can more easily pattern the bucks. The problem is I have a bow in my hands. Twice this season I've seen the buck I'm after out of range. Tuesday evening he was at 60 yards following the trail of a doe that passed by an hour earlier. By the time ML comes his pattern will likely be different. If I lived closer and had more time to spend in the woods, I'd hunt more during the November cycle with a gun in hand, cooler temps, fewer mosquitoes, and hope for one of those wild chasing days. A friend has a piece in Micanopy From about now -> Halloween +/- has always been his best time for getting the good ones
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Post by swampdog on Oct 17, 2023 14:23:15 GMT -5
Yep everything above lines up perfectly and this is typical Florida deer rut. I’ve seen fawns in November, hard horns after the rest of the local herd had lost antlers and scraping and chasing for most all of November through January here in central. Sure beats a two week rut or general gun like they have up north😉
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Post by ben10 on Oct 17, 2023 18:27:49 GMT -5
I’m anxious to go scout one more day in zone c after the 3day muzzy ends. I won’t be able to hunt until thanksgiving week, I hope the weather stays as nice as it has been these last couple of days.
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Post by micciman on Oct 31, 2023 20:21:39 GMT -5
Leon and Jefferson you need to be in the woods 4 days either side of Dec 3rd. Kicks off around Thanksgiving for the smaller bucks.
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