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Post by joekat46 on Aug 8, 2023 13:08:27 GMT -5
In 2022 myself and my usual hunting partner hunted turkey on a one per permit area. We walked in together with only one gun. Our choice on that. We routinely hunt turkey side by side with one being the shooter and one being the caller. .When we left after being successful - we're real turkey killers lol - an FWC officer was at the gate. Even if the area has no check station expect to be checked at some point. The new phone in system to check one in works very well but print the backup paper form to fill out when you're dragging one out if your phone doesn't work. As has been mentioned since you'll be on a one per permit area have good communication with your guest. The guest can't hunt if the permit holder leaves the area or has already killed one.. We'll expect some pictures. Good luck.
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Post by averagehunter on Aug 8, 2023 13:45:56 GMT -5
i would be very careful bout what your doing, safest thing to do is take me as your guest on your hunt then your buddy takes me as his guest on his hunt, that way you guys got nothing to worry bout. im here to help. Wow! What a gracious offer!
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Post by grizzl on Aug 8, 2023 15:31:38 GMT -5
"The guest can't hunt if the permit holder leaves the area or has already killed one.. " If the host or guest harvests a deer..that person can checkout the deer (with the other hunter present) and take the deer to refrig storage and return to the WMA (same or next quota days) .The one that was successful can hunt other game or even "spot" but not shoot deer...and the other can shoot what remains on the quota ticket. But YES BOTH HUNTERS need to be on the WMA at the same time..one can't leave the other.Example of the WMA I hunt. READ YOUR BROCHURE Bag and Possession Limits: A guest hunter must share the host’s bag limit for deer, turkey and quail, except when these bag limits are specified as per person. The host is responsible for violations that exceed the bag limit. 1. Deer No person shall exceed statewide bag limits. A. Area limits 1 antlered and 1 antlerless deer per quota permit. NOTE: Antlerless deer on this area includes does and bucks with antlers less than 1 inch in length, but not spotted fawn. B. Statewide limits Annual limit 5 deer (only 2 of which may be antlerless), daily limit 2, possession limit 4.
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 8, 2023 17:57:01 GMT -5
Glad you posted that. I think the bottom line is that on a one per permit area that means one deer no matter who bagged it. On a two per permit one per person area permit holder and guest can each take one deer. Neither can take two deer on that hunt. I should have said can't hunt deer. I only quota hunt turkey and normally that is the only thing legal with nothing else that can be shot. Every WMAs legal game will be clearly listed for the specific season or quota hunt.. Sorry if I added to some confusion. I'm guessing very few WMAs have the antlerless deer routinely included as legal. Now I'm curious and have to read the Jennings Forest brochure. A learning experience. Sounds like if the deer limit has been taken on some WMAs the hunting of other stuff like hogs and coyotes would still be ok during the remaining hunt period if listed as legal to take. Right? Don't know? Maybe that attorney is needed. Not really. Have a good hunt.
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Post by pinman on Aug 8, 2023 19:03:00 GMT -5
Going out to hunt shouldn't be this difficult....unless you want to make it difficult on purpose.... Hmmm.....
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 8, 2023 20:28:00 GMT -5
Going out to hunt shouldn't be this difficult....unless you want to make it difficult on purpose.... Hmmm..... Agree in part. The FWC rules, being so wordy, do intimidate many. My earlier statements that griz corrected was incorrect for some deer quotas but not turkey quotas. Never considered staying and hunting other stuff after filling a deer limit. Still not sure if the permit holder and guest each tagged out, on say day one, they could continue to hunt other game for the remaining days of say a three day hunt. I'll read it again. Shouldn't have to read it again. I would think when the deer limit was filled either on a one per or two per hunt with the permit holder and guest each scoring on the hunt would be considered completed since no more deer could legally be taken and it was a deer quota hunt. We may be back to the if it isn't prohibited it is legal. Heard that often on the old forum. Add - this is now bugging me. I thought I knew exactly how the Guest Hunter system worked and think I still do if on a turkey hunt. Myself and my hunting buddy have used the guest permits a few times. From now on if its a deer hunt quota question I'll keep my mouth shut. I still have questions about what is legal if both the permit holder and guest on a two per permit one per person area have both filled their deer limits. Can one or both still hunt hogs for the remaining days? Does the fact that a different guest could accompany the permit holder on different days come into play? The new guest on day two would not be able to take a deer if the guest from day one had killed a deer but could he hunt other game. I have heard that as usual in Florida some are "selling" their guest permits especially for turkey quotas. Guest permits may be the new gaming strategy. Whew! Wasn't that easy. LOL. Too hot to do much today so I'll play with this until thoroughly confused.
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Post by grizzl on Aug 9, 2023 8:52:46 GMT -5
Legal to Hunt Deer, wild hog, turkey of either sex, gray squirrel and coyote. On quota permits..not just deer so unless you limit out on each of the above..they can't keep you out of the woods. Even then, people are allowed in the woods without a permit IF THEY ARE NOT HUNTING. So the Host and Guest can access the WMA with a gun on every day the quota is good for.
Go with your buddy and just adhere to the bag limits and you'll be fine!
Spring Turkey Season: Permit, Stamp and License Requirements Quota permit, hunting license, management area permit and wild turkey permit. Legal to Hunt Bearded turkey or gobbler. Regulations Unique to Spring Turkey Season 1. Legal shooting hours are ½ hour before sunrise until sunset. 2. Hunting other animals is prohibited. 3. Only bows, crossbows, PCP air guns propelling
BUT..as you have probably experienced, people who don't hunt can access the WMA while you are hunting...so your guest can come with you..just not have a gun.
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 9, 2023 9:44:35 GMT -5
Not even going to ask where if not Jennings but that turkey of either sex is fairly rare and I see it is limited to archery quotas. We know very well about the non hunters on a quota hunt. Had two joggers in spandex run by, stopped, and pointed to our decoy. They then giggled and ran off. This was several years ago. Our decoy was insulted. I haven't found any quota areas for Spring Turkey that allowed any other game to be taken during the hunt periods. If I do I'll avoid them. Is that a Florida deer in your avatar? Just looked at Jennings Forest. They won't run out of legal game there. Big area.
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Post by meateater on Aug 9, 2023 10:04:55 GMT -5
dinner island and allapatta are the 2 wmas that are abused the most in the south zone, just go to dinner island campground at night and go towards the latin music, 6,7 or 8 guys camping out but only 2 permits , guys leaving there bow or gun in the woods is a commom practice only a idiot would believe that only 2 outa the 4 guys driving around inside the wma are hunting on the 1 permit, thats why only permit holder and 1 guest should be allowed inside the wma during quota hunts . hey so wanna come hang out with me and 5 other guys i know only 2 of us can legally hunt but it will be so much fun , 100 degrees out, bugs , we will drink modello and do bacardi shots all night, sing and dance, get all sweaty, maybe practice jujutsu, i call the rear so i can practice my naked chokes.
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Post by grizzl on Aug 9, 2023 10:58:54 GMT -5
Nope, Virginia Public Land Buck. I archery hunt Va during the rute (late October,early Novenber). Is that a Florida deer in your avatar?
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 9, 2023 11:29:23 GMT -5
Nope, Virginia Public Land Buck. I archery hunt Va during the rute (late October,early Novenber). Is that a Florida deer in your avatar? Super deer. I do miss the northern states hunts when the rut is almost always pretty predictable. In my old Ohio days I would schedule vacation to bow hunt around 5 days on either side of November 8th. Ohio's bow season came in well before their gun season so it was a fun time since the deer hadn't been shot at. By November 8th no mosquitos, no ticks, snakes snoozing. Had to wear gloves and shorts were out. Good luck. This thread was an education. I'll add a Ohio Nov 9th deer pic. I have a picture for most everything. Smartest thing I ever did was take plenty of pictures.
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 9, 2023 12:12:34 GMT -5
Only 32 years ago 11/9/1990. Ohio rut. Still remember the drag. Still have that hat and coat. Bow was a Darton set at 55#, Kolpin broadhead, that is a string tracker.
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Post by grizzl on Aug 9, 2023 13:53:03 GMT -5
Ya, hunting up north is ALLOT more fun! I bust my ass down here and MAYBE get a 70-80 incher. That one in the avatar is my best at 135". What's yours score?
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 9, 2023 14:04:54 GMT -5
Never scored him. Still have his rack. Since I'm a picture posting fool I'll find one we caught on camera in central Florida. It is a jaw dropper. Easily in the class of your VA buck. Unless he was poached he was never seen again. Typical. Pictures later.
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Post by joekat46 on Aug 9, 2023 15:26:18 GMT -5
The picture I mentioned. No idea on his score on the hoof but have to be decent. Looks like he's showing the kid the ropes. This from a ranch in zone B where we turkey hunt. Never got a full head on picture to see his spread. If you notice the date the season would have been over. We turkey hunted there and never found a shed. I never have found a shed in Florida.
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