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Post by johngalt on Aug 25, 2023 12:58:03 GMT -5
I never understood what it is until I began participating in this political forum. On the old forum I never ventured out of the Northwest Forum. My goodness this TDS is wicked bad. It seems to warp the brains of otherwise intelligent people. I think there are two versions of TDS. One is the leftist extreme that thinks he is the anti-christ and the other is the supporters who believe his bullshit and think the shit out his mouth is truth. I also think some have BDS in relation to Biden. Trump is a known liar and egomaniac. Things were good when he was President and i know he had some responsibility for it. But he worries me due to his personality and ego. He takes credit for everything and the blame for nothing, even when he is to blame. He is delusional at times. These are facts that his diehard supporters overlook. His associates, who now find themselves in legal trouble are admitting the truth that it was all a sham and BS about the 2020 election. They knew Trump lost but repeated his bullshit because he was paying them to. Biden is a senile old man who might not make it four more years and his VP sucks. He is too liberal, in my opinion, but congress has him pretty much under control. Trump is no better a choice than Biden. I think they both could be bad news. I guess Biden with a Republican controlled congress or Trump with a Democratic controlled congress might be the best solution we have at this point. At least we get a little balance for the next couple of years and maybe in four years some better choices will emerge. But I think both sides have extreme delusional syndrome about the other guy. Get over it, they are both shitty choices. Vote for someone else in the primary. I somewhat agree with you but I think the hatred for Trump goes a little deeper. Trump embarrassed the government insiders and the establishment. And more importantly he exposed a lot of the corruption in government. He also got some things done when others said it was impossible (the Abraham Accords for instance and moving the embassy). His stance on NATO and China didn’t earn him any respect from the State Department and DOD. As I always ask , name a foreign or economic policy of the Trump administration that was detrimental to our country?
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 25, 2023 13:04:54 GMT -5
I think there are two versions of TDS. One is the leftist extreme that thinks he is the anti-christ and the other is the supporters who believe his bullshit and think the shit out his mouth is truth. I also think some have BDS in relation to Biden. Trump is a known liar and egomaniac. Things were good when he was President and i know he had some responsibility for it. But he worries me due to his personality and ego. He takes credit for everything and the blame for nothing, even when he is to blame. He is delusional at times. These are facts that his diehard supporters overlook. His associates, who now find themselves in legal trouble are admitting the truth that it was all a sham and BS about the 2020 election. They knew Trump lost but repeated his bullshit because he was paying them to. Biden is a senile old man who might not make it four more years and his VP sucks. He is too liberal, in my opinion, but congress has him pretty much under control. Trump is no better a choice than Biden. I think they both could be bad news. I guess Biden with a Republican controlled congress or Trump with a Democratic controlled congress might be the best solution we have at this point. At least we get a little balance for the next couple of years and maybe in four years some better choices will emerge. But I think both sides have extreme delusional syndrome about the other guy. Get over it, they are both shitty choices. Vote for someone else in the primary. I somewhat agree with you but I think the hatred for Trump goes a little deeper. Trump embarrassed the government insiders and the establishment. And more importantly he exposed a lot of the corruption in government. He also got some things done when others said it was impossible (the Abraham Accords for instance and moving the embassy). His stance on NATO and China didn’t earn him any respect from the State Department and DOD. As I always ask , name a foreign or economic policy of the Trump administration that was detrimental to our country? What is it about his conspiring to invalidate millions of votes that you have a hard time understanding? This is not theoretical. But, in fairness to your point, I do consider him a piece of shit for many other reasons, though not any from your Fox News Channel inspired fantasy list.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 25, 2023 13:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by cyclist on Aug 25, 2023 14:21:50 GMT -5
I think there are two versions of TDS. One is the leftist extreme that thinks he is the anti-christ and the other is the supporters who believe his bullshit and think the shit out his mouth is truth. I also think some have BDS in relation to Biden. Trump is a known liar and egomaniac. Things were good when he was President and i know he had some responsibility for it. But he worries me due to his personality and ego. He takes credit for everything and the blame for nothing, even when he is to blame. He is delusional at times. These are facts that his diehard supporters overlook. His associates, who now find themselves in legal trouble are admitting the truth that it was all a sham and BS about the 2020 election. They knew Trump lost but repeated his bullshit because he was paying them to. Biden is a senile old man who might not make it four more years and his VP sucks. He is too liberal, in my opinion, but congress has him pretty much under control. Trump is no better a choice than Biden. I think they both could be bad news. I guess Biden with a Republican controlled congress or Trump with a Democratic controlled congress might be the best solution we have at this point. At least we get a little balance for the next couple of years and maybe in four years some better choices will emerge. But I think both sides have extreme delusional syndrome about the other guy. Get over it, they are both shitty choices. Vote for someone else in the primary. I somewhat agree with you but I think the hatred for Trump goes a little deeper. Trump embarrassed the government insiders and the establishment. And more importantly he exposed a lot of the corruption in government. He also got some things done when others said it was impossible (the Abraham Accords for instance and moving the embassy). His stance on NATO and China didn’t earn him any respect from the State Department and DOD. As I always ask , name a foreign or economic policy of the Trump administration that was detrimental to our country? Trump alienated many career diplomats and caused their early retirement. Lots of people may think that is good, but when critical institutional knowledge about our enemies and allies is lost, America loses. Trump was too stoopid to understand the importance of dedicated, not partisan, under paid and over worked career diplomats and how their knowledge was important to how America functions at home and in the world sphere.
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Post by Captj on Aug 25, 2023 14:57:34 GMT -5
The president of the United States is supposed to be a shining example of moral and ethical behavior to our youth, communities, general population, and the rest of the world's citizens. Trump represents the lowest form of behavior in everything he does and says. If he did anything worthwhile when in office it was by accident, or in his own personal best interest. Prior to gaining office he basically screwed everybody and everything he could working only in his own self interest. He is a danger to this country as he looks only to divide the political parties further and rail against any cooperation between the different factions. He will stand trial for his actions and we'll see how that plays out. Doesn't look good for him due to his abrasive personality and stupid mouth.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 25, 2023 15:00:07 GMT -5
The president of the United States is supposed to be a shining example of moral and ethical behavior to our youth, communities, general population, and the rest of the world's citizens. Trump represents the lowest form of behavior in everything he does and says. If he did anything worthwhile when in office it was by accident, or in his own personal best interest. Prior to gaining office he basically screwed everybody and everything he could working only in his own self interest. He is a danger to this country as he looks only to divide the political parties further and rail against any cooperation between the different factions. He will stand trial for his actions and we'll see how that plays out. Doesn't look good for him due to his abrasive personality and stupid mouth. ^ This. Some seem to have a short memory, and a tenuous tether to reality.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 25, 2023 15:10:52 GMT -5
It's funny to see the far right and the far left bicker back and forth about Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Both sides are ate up with it.
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Post by johngalt on Aug 25, 2023 15:55:37 GMT -5
It's funny to see the far right and the far left bicker back and forth about Trump Derangement Syndrome. Both sides are ate up with it. As I said, what was a policy of the Trump administration that was detrimental to this country?
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Post by johngalt on Aug 25, 2023 15:57:54 GMT -5
How is looking for votes invalidating votes? And did you feel the same way about Al Gore and Hillary Clinton?
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 25, 2023 16:05:39 GMT -5
How is looking for votes invalidating votes? And did you feel the same way about Al Gore and Hillary Clinton? Stop with the gas lighting. Hillary conceded the next morning, fucked off, and went home. Gore lost at the SC, fucked off and went home. Trump lost over 60 court cases, started an insurrection, and a conspiracy to invalidate my vote. Among other crimes, so please, with a cherry on top, give me a fucking break with the false equivalencies. Need more proof of you bullshit apples and orange anus' comparisons? Dec. 13, 2000 -- The following is the text of Vice President Al Gore’s address to the nation, in which he withdrew his claim to the hotly contested 2000 presidential race.
GORE: Good evening.
Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States — and I promised him that I wouldn’t call him back this time.
I offered to meet with him as soon as possible so that we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we just passed.
Almost a century and a half ago, Senator Stephen Douglas (ph)told Abraham Lincoln, who had just defeated him for the presidency, “Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. I’m with you, Mr.President, and God bless you.”
Well, in that same spirit, I say to President-elect Bush that what remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside, and may God bless his stewardship of this country.
Neither he nor I anticipated this long and difficult road. Certainly neither of us wanted it to happen. Yet it came, and now it has ended, resolved, as it must be resolved, through the honored institutions of our democracy.
Over the library of one of our great law schools is inscribed the motto, “Not under man but under God and law.” That’s the ruling principle of American freedom, the source of our democratic liberties. I’ve tried to make it my guide throughout this contest a sit has guided America’s deliberations of all the complex issues of the past five weeks.
Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court’s decision, I accept it. Iaccept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity of the people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.
I also accept my responsibility, which I will discharge unconditionally, to honor the new president elect and do everythingpossible to help him bring Americans together in fulfillment of the great vision that our Declaration of Independence defines and that our Constitution affirms and defends. Let me say how grateful I am to all those who supported me and supported the cause for which we have fought. Tipper and I feel a deep gratitude to Joe and Hadassah Lieberman who brought passion and high purpose to our partnership and opened new doors, not just for our campaign but for our country.
This has been an extraordinary election. But in one of God’s unforeseen paths, this belatedly broken impasse can point us all to anew common ground, for its very closeness can serve to remind us tha twe are one people with a shared history and a shared destiny.
Indeed, that history gives us many examples of contests as hotly debated, as fiercely fought, with their own challenges to the popular will. Other disputes have dragged on for weeks before reaching resolution. And each time, both the victor and the vanquished have accepted the result peacefully and in the spirit of reconciliation.
So let it be with us.
I know that many of my supporters are disappointed. I am too.But our disappointment must be overcome by our love of country.
And I say to our fellow members of the world community, let no one see this contest as a sign of American weakness. The strength of American democracy is shown most clearly through the difficulties it can overcome.
Some have expressed concern that the unusual nature of this election might hamper the next president in the conduct of his office. I do not believe it need be so.
President-elect Bush inherits a nation whose citizens will be ready to assist him in the conduct of his large responsibilities.
I personally will be at his disposal, and I call on all Americans — I particularly urge all who stood with us to unite behindour next president. This is America. Just as we fight hard when the stakes are high, we close ranks and come together when the contest isdone.
And while there will be time enough to debate our continuing differences, now is the time to recognize that that which unites us is greater than that which divides us.
While we yet hold and do not yield our opposing beliefs, there is a higher duty than the one we owe to political party. This is America and we put country before party. We will stand together behind our new president.
As for what I’ll do next, I don’t know the answer to that one yet. Like many of you, I’m looking forward to spending the holidays with family and old friends. I know I’ll spend time in Tennessee and mend some fences, literally and figuratively.
Some have asked whether I have any regrets and I do have one regret: that I didn’t get the chance to stay and fight for the American people over the next four years, especially for those who need burdens lifted and barriers removed, especially for those who feel their voices have not been heard. I heard you and I will not forget.
I’ve seen America in this campaign and I like what I see. It’s worth fighting for and that’s a fight I’ll never stop.
As for the battle that ends tonight, I do believe as my father once said, that no matter how hard the loss, defeat might serve as well as victory to shape the soul and let the glory out. So for me this campaign ends as it began: with the love of Tipper and our family; with faith in God and in the country I have been so proud to serve, from Vietnam to the vice presidency; and with gratitude to our truly tireless campaign staff and volunteers, including all those who worked so hard in Florida for the last 36days.
Now the political struggle is over and we turn again to the unending struggle for the common good of all Americans and for those multitudes around the world who look to us for leadership in the cause of freedom.
In the words of our great hymn, “America, America” “Let us crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea.”
And now, my friends, in a phrase I once addressed to others, it’s time for me to go.
Thank you and good night, and God bless America.
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Post by johngalt on Aug 25, 2023 16:09:50 GMT -5
You might want to look at all the videos, interviews of both Gore and especially Clinton saying the elections were stolen and they actually won. Including the first black woman governor of Georgia. Have fun cupcake. 😉
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 25, 2023 16:17:23 GMT -5
You might want to look at all the videos, interviews of both Gore and especially Clinton saying the elections were stolen and they actually won. Including the first black woman governor of Georgia. Have fun cupcake. 😉 You're free to believe all the nonsense you want. None of those people had their mug shots taking for being anti-American pieces of shit this week. America knows what's what, and who the traitors are. Those that support J6 are free to align themselves with some of the worst filth in American history. But, it is fun to see them get what they have coming in their very lengthy prison sentences for their seditious conspiracy convictions. Law and Order, AmIRight?
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Post by cyclist on Aug 25, 2023 16:28:07 GMT -5
It's funny to see the far right and the far left bicker back and forth about Trump Derangement Syndrome. Both sides are ate up with it. As I said, what was a policy of the Trump administration that was detrimental to this country? Every Environmental policy he canceled or weakened. Pro oil anti renewable stance was backwards. Tax break for wealthy and corporations. Supreme Court nominations. Ruined our diplomatic corps. And dozens more. I wonder about the ignorance that would ask this question....
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Post by luapnor on Aug 25, 2023 18:12:02 GMT -5
As I said, what was a policy of the Trump administration that was detrimental to this country? Every Environmental policy he canceled or weakened. Pro oil anti renewable stance was backwards. Tax break for wealthy and corporations. Supreme Court nominations. Ruined our diplomatic corps. And dozens more. I wonder about the ignorance that would ask this question.... I would guess you are some of the crazies they are looking out for that would cause harm to a the former president. The left is a bit unhinged and the tyrants at the top are exploiting their #TDS to trigger them.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 25, 2023 18:17:18 GMT -5
Every Environmental policy he canceled or weakened. Pro oil anti renewable stance was backwards. Tax break for wealthy and corporations. Supreme Court nominations. Ruined our diplomatic corps. And dozens more. I wonder about the ignorance that would ask this question.... I would guess you are some of the crazies they are looking out for that would cause harm to a the former president. The left is a bit unhinged and the tyrants at the top are exploiting their #TDS to trigger them. Says the #1 fan of the biggest stochastic terrorists America has ever known.
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