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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 19, 2023 13:51:48 GMT -5
I think a whole lot of hidden truths will be pried out during a trial. The truths can not be hidden forever.
Then whoever is guilty will be in need of punishment. WHOEVER IS GUILTY!
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 19, 2023 13:56:53 GMT -5
Like the ad that is now being shown where the “peacefully and patriotic” is conveniently edited out.
I don’t really like Trump anymore but I dislike the lies and distortions even more.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 19, 2023 14:13:59 GMT -5
Bullshit. It's easy to see who organized the J6 rally, who spoke on the stage, who paid for busses, who texted incitement, who recruited the false electors, and who drafted dubious legal strategy, etc... The list is endless, so pretty please, with sugar on top, give us a fucking break. Always the victim, it's pathetic. Please prove the above mentioned allegations. Please show me the proof. Please Its about to happen in Fulton county and DC, stay tuned and take notes. Oh!!!!! Fulton county will be televised😄
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 19, 2023 14:18:01 GMT -5
Like the ad that is now being shown where the “peacefully and patriotic” is conveniently edited out. I don’t really like Trump anymore but I dislike the lies and distortions even more. ” You gotta fight, you gotta fight like hell, otherwise you won’t have a country anymore”. Was he sending mixed signals? Why did he sit in the White House for hours silent. Why didn’t Mike Pence get in that car? You are a strange Democrat. Who’s the last one you voted for for president?
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 19, 2023 14:29:37 GMT -5
Bullshit. It's easy to see who organized the J6 rally, who spoke on the stage, who paid for busses, who texted incitement, who recruited the false electors, and who drafted dubious legal strategy, etc... The list is endless, so pretty please, with sugar on top, give us a fucking break. Always the victim, it's pathetic. Please prove the above mentioned allegations. Please show me the proof. Please I know reality can be hard for so many that really wanted to back the insurrection, and see the VP to swing. Lots of proof: Caroline Wren, a top fundraiser for Trump’s campaign who was listed as a “VIP Advisor” on the permit granted by the National Park Service for the Jan. 6 rally, reportedly boasted of raising $3 million for the protest before the Capitol riotTwo of the other organizations that ProPublica reported helped store funds for the rally, Rule of Law Trust and Turning Point, are dark money groups that were listed as organizers of the rally.One of the dark money groups that reportedly parked funds and helped promote the rally, the Rule of Law Defense Fund, is the 501(c)(4) affiliated with the Republican Attorneys General Association.Uihlein was also a major donor to other groups affiliated with rally organizers. He contributed to the Women for Trump hybrid PAC affiliated with Women for America First, and Uilehin was the top 2020 election donor to the super PAC affiliated with Tea Party Patriots, another rally organizer.In total, Trump’s political operation reported paying more than $4.3 million to people and firms that organized the Jan. 6 rally since the start of the 2020 election.
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Post by cadman on Aug 19, 2023 14:32:01 GMT -5
Like the ad that is now being shown where the “peacefully and patriotic” is conveniently edited out. I don’t really like Trump anymore but I dislike the lies and distortions even more. Why don't you read his entire speech, the hatred he spewed after then one remark early on. the hatred that fired up the mob to a point they broke into the capital and threatened congress and the VP. Read his entire speech and don't just pick one 70 second clip. www.documentcloud.org/documents/20475169-trump-speech-jan6
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Post by misterjr on Aug 19, 2023 14:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 14:45:30 GMT -5
Please prove the above mentioned allegations. Please show me the proof. Please I know reality can be hard for s o many that really wanted to back the insurrection, and see the VP to swing. Lots of proof: Caroline Wren, a top fundraiser for Trump’s campaign who was listed as a “VIP Advisor” on the permit granted by the National Park Service for the Jan. 6 rally, reportedly boasted of raising $3 million for the protest before the Capitol riotTwo of the other organizations that ProPublica reported helped store funds for the rally, Rule of Law Trust and Turning Point, are dark money groups that were listed as organizers of the rally.One of the dark money groups that reportedly parked funds and helped promote the rally, the Rule of Law Defense Fund, is the 501(c)(4) affiliated with the Republican Attorneys General Association.Uihlein was also a major donor to other groups affiliated with rally organizers. He contributed to the Women for Trump hybrid PAC affiliated with Women for America First, and Uilehin was the top 2020 election donor to the super PAC affiliated with Tea Party Patriots, another rally organizer.In total, Trump’s political operation reported paying more than $4.3 million to people and firms that organized the Jan. 6 rally since the start of the 2020 election.
Who is " backing the insurrection " that you are claiming. ? Do you think people that don't believe it was Trump's fault are backing it ? Sounds like a little TDS on your part .
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 19, 2023 15:03:30 GMT -5
I know reality can be hard for s o many that really wanted to back the insurrection, and see the VP to swing. Lots of proof: Caroline Wren, a top fundraiser for Trump’s campaign who was listed as a “VIP Advisor” on the permit granted by the National Park Service for the Jan. 6 rally, reportedly boasted of raising $3 million for the protest before the Capitol riotTwo of the other organizations that ProPublica reported helped store funds for the rally, Rule of Law Trust and Turning Point, are dark money groups that were listed as organizers of the rally.One of the dark money groups that reportedly parked funds and helped promote the rally, the Rule of Law Defense Fund, is the 501(c)(4) affiliated with the Republican Attorneys General Association.Uihlein was also a major donor to other groups affiliated with rally organizers. He contributed to the Women for Trump hybrid PAC affiliated with Women for America First, and Uilehin was the top 2020 election donor to the super PAC affiliated with Tea Party Patriots, another rally organizer.In total, Trump’s political operation reported paying more than $4.3 million to people and firms that organized the Jan. 6 rally since the start of the 2020 election.
Who is " backing the insurrection " that you are claiming. ? Do you think people that don't believe it was Trump's fault are backing it ? Sounds like a little TDS on your part . I believe people with zero regard for American democracy, and that hate her so much that they were willing to attack the Capitol, stop the transfer of power, and see the VP hang that were, and are backing it and Trump. It's those fucking scumbags, and their supporter's that I'm referring to. It's not my problem if someone thinks that they fall into that category. That's on them.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 19, 2023 15:07:18 GMT -5
I was asked to provide proof of who was behind the rally. I did in spades. So it's also not my problem that so many insurrection supporters can't handle reality.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 19, 2023 15:07:38 GMT -5
So on November 3 , 2011 the election is called for John McCain. Barrack Obama says the election was rigged and we need to stop the steal. He files 60 law suits and loses everyone. On the eve of Joe Biden certifying the electoral college votes Obama tells his followers to come to DC, it’s gonna be off the chain. 30,000 people descend on Washington and and break into the capital building. Shoe on the other foot guys. Some of you Trump humpers sound deranged.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 15:18:39 GMT -5
I was asked to provide proof of who was behind the rally. I did in spades. So it's also not my problem that so many insurrection supporters can't handle reality. I don't think you listed everyone that was behind the rally. But you still didn't answer the question-- Do you think people that don't believe it was Trump's fault are backing it ?
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 19, 2023 15:22:25 GMT -5
I was asked to provide proof of who was behind the rally. I did in spades. So it's also not my problem that so many insurrection supporters can't handle reality. I don't think you listed everyone that was behind the rally. But you still didn't answer the question-- Do you think people that don't believe it was Trump's fault are backing it ? Who did he miss, who else was behind the ralley/treasonous mob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 15:32:55 GMT -5
I don't think you listed everyone that was behind the rally. But you still didn't answer the question-- Do you think people that don't believe it was Trump's fault are backing it ? Who did he miss, who else was behind the ralley/treasonous mob He didn't answer the question and you are not on topic of what you quoted.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 19, 2023 15:40:43 GMT -5
There is no proof that Trump instructed anyone to attack the capitol. His funding may have paid for the rally. Some of the idiots at the rally got carried away and committed a nefarious act. Those that did that need to be punished. There were people at the rally that did nothing wrong.
Organization of a rally is not proof that Trump told anyone to commit a crime. “Peacefully and patriotic” does not sound at all like a man ordering a take over of the capitol.
You have accusations and unfounded beliefs that’s all. I am still waiting for proof that he ordered the attack on our capitol. I don’t believe you have any.
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